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vurt




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PostPosted: Sat, 31st Oct 2026 17:50    Post subject:
PickupArtist wrote:
yeah now i remember, just the lighting and hands reminded me of it . is the doom engine opensource nowadays ? if u would trow it up on steam it would be ok to make some bucks with it ?


yes its open source, Selaco uses it for example.. almost any game that uses it uses a modified version. i use UZDoom. so yes you are allowed to sell games with that engine, i think you have to share the source code (code, not graphics etc).
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PostPosted: Sat, 31st Oct 2026 19:07    Post subject:
LLM is not AI.


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PostPosted: Sat, 31st Oct 2026 20:29    Post subject:
Is computer controlled npc's "AI" though, i believe you have regarded them as such (fear etc) Cool Face
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PostPosted: Sat, 31st Oct 2026 23:55    Post subject:
nope ... those are all just scripts
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PostPosted: Sat, 31st Oct 2026 23:57    Post subject:
I bet vurt thinks FEAR NPC if/else statements are "AI" Laughing


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vurt




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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Nov 2026 04:32    Post subject:
i bet you think LLMs are pachinko machines Laughing Laughing you have no clue what an LLM is.
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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Nov 2026 13:15    Post subject:
It's all a form of AI, yes even simple deterministic rule based NPC scripts. "Artificial Intelligence" refers to any system engineered to emulate intelligent behavior or decision-making, whether it is sentient or not. Stop being definition nazis.
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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Nov 2026 14:09    Post subject:
Sentient AI has never been a thing, that is something else entirely beyond AI. It's not how the Geoffrey Hinton ("Godfather of AI") describes it, and he 100% agrees that LLM's are AI.

LLM's has by far surpassed the original meaning of artificial intelligence. If someone doesn't understand that he likely never read what an AI is, he watched blade runner and thought it would be sentient Replicants who walks among us Rolling Eyes A child's take or a just a very low IQ take basically by someone who just isn't interested in the subject, not in any serious way at least.
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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Nov 2026 15:58    Post subject:
Shocktrooper wrote:
It's all a form of AI, yes even simple deterministic rule based NPC scripts. "Artificial Intelligence" refers to any system engineered to emulate intelligent behavior or decision-making, whether it is sentient or not. Stop being definition nazis.

That's not what "intelligence" means. The term has been abused (mostly by idioturts). "Sentience" has nothing to do with "intelligence".


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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Nov 2026 21:38    Post subject:
OpenAI and Anthropic have gone all in with the moralfagging it seems. The era of restrictions, lectures and LLMs refusing to do assignments is upon us.
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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Nov 2026 05:23    Post subject:
i am not a fan of the people running these companies. yes, some of what they say is good and makes sense, but some of what they do is quite infuriating.

Anyways, it matters little because there is china, and there is open source too.

...on another subject. two interesting videos i watched this morning.



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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Nov 2026 06:57    Post subject:
@vurt
See I think thats where we differ on it vurt.

The "Appeal to Singular Authority" angle doesn't do anything for me.
The founder, inventor, and lead innovator/researcher of anything could claim something. They do a lot, sometimes they are right, sometimes they are wrong.
And until its peer confirmed, and/or the majority of that field accepts it. I don't take any single scientists/engineers/whatever claims with any weight.

This is how we grew up believing so many wrong scientific things. Someone an 'expert' in a field claimed a thing. And people just went with it:
- Vitamin C prevents colds
- We only use 10% of our brains
- Sharks don’t get cancer
- Stress main causes of stomach ulcers
- Different parts of your tongue taste different things

That doesn’t mean expertise has no value. It means “a leading expert believes this” and “this has been proven” are two different statements.


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