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You mostly never only leech torrents. The technology requires that data is shared by every persom that downloads the same file. That's the angle that they fuck you from: distribution of stuff you do not own and have no distribution rights to
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Nui
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Aug 2016 12:23 Post subject: |
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And yes, it happens in germany. Rarely, but it does.
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Nalo
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Aug 2016 12:58 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Aug 2016 12:59 Post subject: |
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rarely? i think if you leech music of pubilc trackers the chances that you get fucked in the butt in germany is very very high
dont know bout movies and games, think they are over it. but music industry always bitches that piracy ruins their business
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Aug 2016 13:12 Post subject: |
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| Nalo wrote: | | What happens? |
you can get a lawsuit over "leeching" movies via torrents
@ janz
Yeah, I think rarely. But your mileage will perhaps vary due to the type of music and quality.
I don't mean rarely as in "don't worry, they'll never get you". So I should probably concede that it's perhaps a poor choice of words.
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Aug 2016 13:39 Post subject: |
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I use a seedbox for additional torrent performance. How is torrentbytes?
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Aug 2016 13:44 Post subject: |
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Germany has always been the #1 anti-piracy country in Europe. Back in the Amiga days (~1990) I got a letter from a fellow group member in Germany who told me about a raid where a whole bunch of people (teens and above) were rounded up, everything tech was confiscated and the "pirates" were dealt with rather harshly (fines, stuck in the police anti-theft registry etc.).
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Aug 2016 20:49 Post subject: |
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| deelix wrote: | | Have people in Germany been fined just for leeching torrents? Here in Norway there have only been a few cases where uploaders/or the person who added the torrent to the site have been fined. It was even unclear if popcorn time was legal here or not, while in other countries it actually got consequences for the users. |
Well.. http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2775271#2775271
| consolitis wrote: | | Drowning_witch wrote: | | PumpAction wrote: | | Torrent in germany is not a good idea. |
wow, that bad? |
Take a look for yourself:
https://www.reddit.com/r/PopCornTime/comments/31b3dl/just_got_a_piracy_letter_for_downloaded_movies_in/
| Quote: | | They want 900 Euros, will report back after all is done with the Lawyer, thanks for your help people! |
https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/comments/2n2uds/received_a_cease_desist_warning_from_waldorf/
| Quote: | I recently received a Cease & Desist warning from Waldorf Frommer (A large 13 page document, in a big A4 envelope..this could all be done, to look imposing and serious, or it really could be imposing and serious), for supposedly download 'The Hobbit - The Desolation of Smaug'. In doing so they are saying I need to pay them 815€ (Money I don't have, being poor and all that  ), to be paid at the latest on the 4th of December, 2014. |
https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/comments/2ywpcp/2000_euro_fine_for_downloading_a_movie/
| Quote: | When i was in Germany, me and my girlfriend downloaded a movie from thepiratebay
She has just received a letter (she is in Germany) being charged 2000 euro.
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https://discuss.popcorntime.io/t/help-threatened-to-pay/16219
| Quote: | During the christmas break (2014) I went to visit my cousin and my uncle in Germany. [...]
JUST a month later (now), my uncle from Germany has received a letter from a lawyer.
It said that he has to pay for the illegal movies we were watching via Popcorn time.
Each illegal movie costs about €854.- !!!!!! FOR WHAT? For watching Popcorn time ONLINE.
I think we watched like 5 movies during the break, so it's around the €4200,- |
https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/comments/odwiq/holy_shit_landlord_got_a_letter_and_fine_for/
| Quote: | | She's letting me use her internet (we live in the same house) and she just got a letter with an 800 fine for something downloaded. |
https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/comments/2vt2bg/waldorf_frommer_cease_and_desist_letter_third/
| Quote: | I am living in Germany for 5 months now and like many others have been totally unaware of the strict downloading regulations up until now. I was living in a house with 2 other housemates, of which one was the owner of the internet contract. [...]
After having admitted that I downloaded the episodes she then tells me she received a letter from Waldorf Frommer claiming 815 euro's. |
https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/comments/2iqq2z/can_anyone_recommend_a_good_lawyer_for_dealing/
| Quote: | I recently moved to Germany from New Zealand to live with my girlfriend. I wasn't aware of how strict the laws are on torrenting here - no one ever gets charged in New Zealand.
I had been watching movies with my girlfriend using PopcornTime and got a notice yesterday from Waldorf Frommer asking for 815€. |
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TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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Stige
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Aug 2016 21:08 Post subject: |
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Are you sure those are even legal? There is a company like that in Finland that sends threat letters that are just plain bullshit, demanding similar amounts of money from people.
http://www.hedman-attorneys.com this is the company that sends the bs letters in Finland.
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Aug 2016 21:11 Post subject: |
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Yes. A colleague that lived in a company paid flat got a letter from some company because he illegally downloaded some fetish porn. Almost got him kicked out of the company.
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Aug 2016 22:54 Post subject: |
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| Stige wrote: | Are you sure those are even legal? There is a company like that in Finland that sends threat letters that are just plain bullshit, demanding similar amounts of money from people.
http://www.hedman-attorneys.com this is the company that sends the bs letters in Finland. |
It's legal, that's how the law works in the country. And you are not advised to ignore these letters.
Sometimes you can send a letter you download from the internet that stops them from pursuing the matter any further but that doesn't always work. Others pay a lawyer (hundreds of euros, but hey, better to pay 400 euros to a lawyer than a 800 euro fine, right?) to do the same procedure with the letter and hope because a legal firm will be behind it that it will work.
Doing absolutely nothing is not suggested, sure, some times they won't take you to court, but others they will and you don't want that to happen because it can only mean you will pay even more money.
You can also negotiate with them and explain you are just a student from another country and cannot find the 1200 euros they require from you, in which case they do you a favor of fining you with "only" 600 euros because of how kind and understanding they are...
Or you can pay for a VPN and have nothing to worry about..
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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| consolitis wrote: | | Stige wrote: |  Spoiler: | Are you sure those are even legal? There is a company like that in Finland that sends threat letters that are just plain bullshit, demanding similar amounts of money from people.
http://www.hedman-attorneys.com this is the company that sends the bs letters in Finland. |
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Or you can pay for a VPN and have nothing to worry about.. |
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Fuck them,they can "sue" me I am promising they won't get a penny from me no matter what  I will personally ignore the shit out of them. they can't prove anything with just IP address as it CAN be changed .
"Fuck Denuvo"
Your personal opinions != the rest of the forum
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Nui
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| Posted: Fri, 19th Aug 2016 12:13 Post subject: |
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I also live in germany and I use a Seedbox with some private trackers, then transfer the files from the Seedbox to my PC via an SFTP connection.
It's safe this way and the only way I would touch a torrent in germany.
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Nalo
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| Posted: Fri, 19th Aug 2016 15:23 Post subject: |
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5'ish € a month can get you a seedbox these days, I'd say that is an insane value you'll get in return. It will suffice for most people.
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| Posted: Fri, 19th Aug 2016 15:24 Post subject: |
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Yea it's the only reasonable way to do it since Usenet died horribly.
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Nalo
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| Posted: Fri, 19th Aug 2016 15:46 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 19th Aug 2016 17:32 Post subject: I have left. |
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| Posted: Fri, 19th Aug 2016 23:54 Post subject: |
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you need to code that stuff yourself and not use common fake versions and just program it that it doenst spoof the upload when no peers besides the seeders are connected and randomize the ratio value from 0,7-1,9 an you are fine 
