Splinter Cell Conviction
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Weedo




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Jun 2009 17:22    Post subject:
There were penalties for doing this in CT? I did it all the time. You could even choose an assault weapon set at the begining of each mission.
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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Jun 2009 17:28    Post subject:
^some missions you weren't allowed to kill since NSA wasn't legally allowed in that territory
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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Jun 2009 17:40    Post subject:
This better not be repetitive like every other Ubisoft game lately, I usually finish every peace of crap I start playing but I couldn't finish the latest PoP and FC2, PoP especially was a huge letdown.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2009 01:06    Post subject:
madmax17 wrote:
This better not be repetitive like every other Ubisoft game lately, I usually finish every peace of crap I start playing but I couldn't finish the latest PoP and FC2, PoP especially was a huge letdown.


i always finish all that comes out xD, except some games i don't play like sims, mmo-s, and "hardcore" simulations...

this one i will definitely play, but i doubt it will be better then Chaos Theory (my best)


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2009 19:53    Post subject:
Since when has SC ever been repetitive? I think never!!!
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2009 20:09    Post subject:
Ubisoft wasn't repetitive back then but they sure are fucking repetitive now.

Even Assassins Creed jeez, every game they put out is repetitive to the mothafuckin' bone, they truly are masters of repetition.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2009 21:04    Post subject:
madmax17 wrote:
Ubisoft wasn't repetitive back then but they sure are fucking repetitive now.

Even Assassins Creed jeez, every game they put out is repetitive to the mothafuckin' bone, they truly are masters of repetition.


Was there meant to be a bit of a joke in there with the word "repetitive" x4? Laughing


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2009 21:14    Post subject:
madmax17 wrote:
Ubisoft wasn't repetitive back then (beyond good and evil) but they sure are fucking repetitive now (everything they put out now)

Even Assassins Creed jeez, every game they put out is repetitive to the mothafuckin' bone, they truly are masters of repetition.

bg&e was a commercial failure, AC was a huge success. yes, most people are stupid to the mothafuckin' bone.
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Jun 2009 10:19    Post subject:
the game is delayed to 2010?
i thought it was to come out at the end of this month


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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Jun 2009 10:42    Post subject:
Last information was that the game will be released on Holidays 2009.
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Jun 2009 11:07    Post subject:
David_Beckham wrote:
the game is delayed to 2010?
i thought it was to come out at the end of this month


It's coming out Fall this year.

I don't know where people got "June" from, it was said from the beginning that it is going to be released this autumn.
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Jun 2009 11:45    Post subject:
I've also read it would come out at the end of June, but that doesn't look realistic. Like a half year ago they started from scratch again
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jun 2009 05:45    Post subject:
elise wrote:
I've also read it would come out at the end of June, but that doesn't look realistic. Like a half year ago they started from scratch again


Nope.

At E3 the Pres of Ubisoft and the Lead Game Designer guy for SC:C said it will be out in the fall (so anywhere from Sept 21st - Dec 21st). I'm guessing mid November.
Not to close to Christmas, but not to far away. Probably after the American Thanksgiving (or right before).


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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Jun 2009 18:15    Post subject:
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,688047/Splinter-Cell-Conviction-New-engine-details-and-features/News/

Some small engine details, it's no longer using the "Unreal Engine" (It's called LEAD, unsure if that's lead as in lead on or lead as in the metal, doesn't matter.) and there's a few improvements such as large crowds and destructible environments. (Perhaps Sam became "serious" and started utilizing explosives.)
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Jun 2009 18:21    Post subject:
Who is older, Max Payne 3 or Sam Fisher 5 Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Jun 2009 18:35    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
it's no longer using the "Unreal Engine" (It's called LEAD, unsure if that's lead as in lead on or lead as in the metal, doesn't matter.) and there's a few improvements such as large crowds and destructible environments.

A small correction, that LEAD engine is in fact UE2.5 with extensive modifications, as was the SCCT back in 2005. Smile It is similar to how Irrational Games (2K now) called their engine the "Vengeance engine" for BioShock, when it was in fact UE2.5 with the UE3 rendering capabilities and some additional modifications mishmashed in. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Jun 2009 18:46    Post subject:
yup is LEAD (heavily modified Unreal Engine 2.5)

in any case SC4 runs smooth on current midrange pc with all stuff enabled
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Jun 2009 18:47    Post subject:
madmax17 wrote:
Who is older, Max Payne 3 or Sam Fisher 5 Very Happy


IMO Thief 3 is older than both those poopshoots....! >.<
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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Jun 2009 23:57    Post subject:
What do you think guys?

Splinter Cell Conviction Developer Diary

Somekind consolish, but may be really good, at least I hope so Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Jul 2009 00:00    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
What do you think guys?

Splinter Cell Conviction Developer Diary

Somekind consolish, but may be really good, at least I hope so Laughing


so long stealth game ..

apparently they are focusing ALOT on action , didnt see any stealth there , i mean shit , he just entered a room and shot everyone , dumb and pointless , anyway even if Splinter Cell series was half action and half stealth , seems that they forgot about the latter and focused on action game .
ah well , another ass raped series , too bad SC CS was fantastic (1 , 2 were also good)

next stop , buttfucking Thief series.


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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Jul 2009 00:01    Post subject:
Looks like much has changed, i think i like the concepts though, looking forward to giving it a try.


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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Jul 2009 00:15    Post subject:
I think the emphasis in this video was in the last sentence. EVERYBODY wants to play... So it is going to be simplified a lot!
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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Jul 2009 00:21    Post subject:
shimec wrote:
I think the emphasis in this video was in the last sentence. EVERYBODY wants to play... So it is going to be simplified a lot!

Yeah, it's a sort of "Splinter Cell for dummies"
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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Jul 2009 09:06    Post subject:
Jesus.. first they say yeah we invented stealth games but now that we play them we don't like Sam Fisher he isn't man enough, he shouldn't be hiding when he's discovered like some pussy, he should be able to kill them all like Chuck Norris Rolling Eyes well guess what, that is the basis of all stealth games, which you did not invent, because knowing that you're screwed when discovered makes you try harder to stay stealthy otherwise there is no motivation.

Well it was a good run while it lasted, four very nice games, this one is a complete overhaul, last time Ubi decided to do that was with the new Pop and that one was a disaster.
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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Jul 2009 09:54    Post subject:
madmax17 wrote:
Jesus.. first they say yeah we invented stealth games but now that we play them we don't like Sam Fisher he isn't man enough, he shouldn't be hiding when he's discovered like some pussy, he should be able to kill them all like Chuck Norris Rolling Eyes well guess what, that is the basis of all stealth games, which you did not invent, because knowing that you're screwed when discovered makes you try harder to stay stealthy otherwise there is no motivation.

Well it was a good run while it lasted, four very nice games, this one is a complete overhaul, last time Ubi decided to do that was with the new Pop and that one was a disaster.


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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Jul 2009 10:10    Post subject:
Please read this topic, in this topic the devs gives answers to gamers:
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5271091065/m/1911036467

And in particular this part:

Q. Is it possible to go through the whole game without being seen, heard, or using my pistol...
Basically, can I use only stealth the whole game??

Absolutely, all the maps can be played completely in stealth when special circumstances do not require you to play otherwise. It is up to the user to decide how they play the game. We have crafted a versatile and rewarding experience for all gamers. With that said, Conviction is designed to give the player an edge if they play intelligently. For example, playing smart will allow you access to Mark and Execute, as well the ability to gain information from interrogations, among other benefits.
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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Jul 2009 10:25    Post subject:
Games that allow you to choose between stealth and action always fail when action option gives the same result.If i remember well the same 'concept' was in Hitman 2 and i found it pathetic.


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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Jul 2009 10:35    Post subject:
dunno if you already saw this but looks great to me Very Happy

http://gamer.nana10.co.il/Article/?ArticleID=652527&sid=212

why they never talk of early releases..why always delays..i want to play the game this weekend Very Happy
but..i guess i will have to wait abit :/ Wink

*not that the game delayed, i mean delays in general.
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Jul 2009 20:09    Post subject:
Splinter Cell: Conviction and Red Steel 2, both originally scheduled to release in the third fiscal quarter (October 1, 2009 - December 31, 2009), have been pushed back to the fourth fiscal quarter (January 1, 2010 - March 31, 2010).
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