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SirSmokesAlot




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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Jan 2005 19:51    Post subject: Equlibrium?
Some say "Equlibrium" is better then the matrix..I was gonna go buy it from best buy tonight..what do you guys think of it?


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Jan 2005 19:58    Post subject:
nah, it's not better then Matrix... Can't even see why people compare it to Matrix... anyway enjoy the movie it isnt bad...


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Jan 2005 20:17    Post subject:
The movie is enjoyable enough, and I've got friends who've said its better than The Matrix,
but I can't see that myself, as said by Mutantius enjoy the movie,
but don't be disappointed if its not a Matrix beater.
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Jan 2005 20:38    Post subject:
The week part of the movie is its tight budget.


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Jan 2005 23:34    Post subject:
I though its a LOT better to "The Matrix", prolly not as boring Sad
If you would took all the good things from matrix you would get Equilibrium Wink

P.S. Its Equilibrium not Equlibrium Neutral


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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Jan 2005 07:01    Post subject:
Action wise - Matrix is way better!
Visual style - Matrix and Equilibrium are almost at the same level... dark atmosphere, grainy situations and a lot of stylized action. (Dark city Shocked) but Matrix goes higher.
Story wise - Matrix is WAY better
Acting wise - comparing Christian Bale to Keanu is like comparing Sean Penn to Ben Affleck Rolling Eyes so it goes to Equilibrium

Both movies are very different and both are very good action flicks.

Those who say it’s better than Matrix have some right since it does have some action packed scenes! Those who say Matrix is better are also right since Matrix, though said but not proven, has developed this grainy, dark theme and popularized gun combat. But the thing Equilibrium lacks that Matrix doesn’t is style. Matrix is amazing. I mean it is a lot better than Equilibrium when you look at style. It’s a one hit wonder. When you look at Equilibrium you’re looking at batman forever. May have some ‘decent’ acting, story, some hot actors/actresses and some action scenes but it doesn’t really have the same feel the ‘original’ one had.

Once again both movies are very good. If you liked Matrix you’ll like this. If you loathed the Matrix for its lack of imagination then you will hate Equilibrium. Though it is a very nice take on civilization.

Matrix is a good movie to compare with dark city. Similar story line. Similar atmosphere. Better acting! And very amazing visual. I recommend dark city if you loved the Matrix and/or Equilibrium Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Jan 2005 07:07    Post subject:
Thought your browser didnt supported the forum anymore Injurious Razz


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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Jan 2005 08:09    Post subject:
Its a good movie and worth buying.

Compairing it to The Matrix.. The Matrix wins.
compairing it to The matrix Trilogy and equalibrium wins.


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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Jan 2005 13:26    Post subject:
You can't compare a movie that looks like it was a sci fi made for tv movie against a large budgeted movie like the matrix. Equilibrium is an interesting concept, and for it's budget it does look ok, but it's not nearly as high caliber as the matrix In visuals, sound, acting (he's more of a stiff wooden board than keanu give me a break), plot and so on....


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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Jan 2005 13:44    Post subject:
Why even compare?
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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Jan 2005 13:47    Post subject:
copywrong wrote:
Why even compare?


haha yeah it's mostly subjective anyways Razz
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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Jan 2005 14:27    Post subject:
People are just compare crazy these days. Hallife better than doom? Ben Affleck sucks more than Keanu? Black socks are way better than blue and so on and so on. Compare it yourself and make up your own opinion. If everybody here said that Matrix is better than Equilibrium then maybe the first poster would miss out on a movie that he would have really liked. BTW, if I would be forced to compare then I would have to say that I like both... Black and blue socks that is Wink
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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Jan 2005 17:14    Post subject:
I prefer 1984 to Matrix or Equilibrium any day.


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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Jan 2005 17:55    Post subject:
Well I love both movies, and I think that they are quite diffrent.


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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Jan 2005 00:19    Post subject:
gun fu mother fucker it is the bomb digitty
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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Jan 2005 00:23    Post subject:
psychoace wrote:
gun fu mother fucker it is the bomb digitty

did you get infected by gobo?

i like the movie... somewhere i read it's "the fahrenheit 451 with guns"
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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Jan 2005 00:41    Post subject:
weird0 wrote:
psychoace wrote:
gun fu mother fucker it is the bomb digitty

did you get infected by gobo?

i like the movie... somewhere i read it's "the fahrenheit 451 with guns"
just wanted to share that with you Very Happy


yes there is alot of fahrenheit 451 in this movie.

great movie by the way.
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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Jan 2005 06:21    Post subject:
Yes matrix has better action crap but Equilibrium got a deeper story (if u know what i mean...)
Someone said EQI looks like a TV Movie ? Well ok, w/e u say ...
The acting was a LOT better in EQI than in Matrix. (Bale pwnz, See Machinist)
If I could get 1 dvd and i had to choose between Mat or Equi, i'd take Equil.


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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Jan 2005 12:11    Post subject:
Both movies are great but I like Matrix more because of the action and the story, still Equilibrium is a very good movie.
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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Jan 2005 15:44    Post subject:
Equilibrium is a B-movie. Low budget in every way, even the story. Enjoyable to watch one time, but certainly not worth spending money on. That's my opinion.
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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Jan 2005 15:48    Post subject:
You can't understand how people compare Equilibrium with the Matrix?!?

The Matrix is about breaking free from a reality that isn't real.
Equilibrium is about breaking free from a system that isn't working.

The Matrix is about Neo, who discovers the unreal world he's living in, through a person he's heard about, Trinity, who is part of a rebel movement, someone who wants to show him there's something... better, that you get to by taking a pill.

Equilibrium is about Christian Bale's character who has a friend who stops "taking the anti-emotional pill" and gets to experience this new, better world. After this incident he starts doing so himself, and discovers there's an entire rebel movement, underground, that wants to be free.

In the Matrix, Neo takes the chance to become part of this out of the will to experience, when he has done so, his old reality becomes an enemy of his new one.

In Equilibrium, Bale's character was part of a system who hunted dissidents, this movement now has become his enemy, and he has to fight against it.

In both movies, the main characters have supernatural powers which they've obtained from "training".

In both movies, the main characters discover that "the seemingly better life" really isn't. They live in a low-down world of grit and grey. And it is better, the taste sweeter.

In both movies, people are USED for some fake megalomaniac's own purpose. In Matrix, it's the machines... in Equilibrium, it's "Big Brother" (á la Orson Welles).

In the end, the rebels win, hoo-raah!



Yeah, extremely different movies... Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Jan 2005 15:51    Post subject:
It is a pretty good movie. Can't really compare it with The Matrix.
Some say Christian Bale should have been in The Matrix instead.
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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Jan 2005 16:37    Post subject:
Please motivate your words, otherwise they just sound like: "Blah blah blah blah"


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PostPosted: Thu, 6th Jan 2005 00:15    Post subject:
Basically too me it's the same story line as in countless movies where the main guy first is against the good guys then somehow through some life changing experience learns that he has been wrong all these years and end up saving the day for everyone involved. There's even a whole bunch of old western movies that sort of deal with the same themes. Some examples that might seem far fetched but think about them for awhile.
Red Scorpion with Dolph Lundgren, he's a badass russian who fights farmer guys then becomes one of them and fight of the russian army and saves his new "people".
Quigley down under with Tom Selleck where he is a master rifleman hired to kill aboriginies down under, he later of course starts to help them and thus saving his new "people".
Dances with wolves only he doesn't "save" the world but he is an important figure in the natives life which he at first was kind of against.
Chronicles of Riddick, doesn't like anyone. End up fighting for the good guys and saving the universe.

And so on and so on.
Ancient storyline which deals with change based on free will and knowing whats right and wrong. Following your heart and soul and all that crap Smile Also connected to some sort of Messiah figure. Obviously very apparent in The Matrix. There is a whole lot of other genre stealing going on in both movies. But hey, it works for me.
In my opinion both the matrix and equilibrium are good entertaining movies.
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PostPosted: Thu, 6th Jan 2005 00:35    Post subject:
copywrong wrote:

Red Scorpion with Dolph Lundgren, he's a badass russian who fights farmer guys then becomes one of them and fight of the russian army and saves his new "people".
Quigley down under with Tom Selleck where he is a master rifleman hired to kill aboriginies down under, he later of course starts to help them and thus saving his new "people".
Dances with wolves only he doesn't "save" the world but he is an important figure in the natives life which he at first was kind of against.
Chronicles of Riddick, doesn't like anyone. End up fighting for the good guys and saving the universe.


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Matrix is a rehash of the same old plot/plots like you said Razz

Isn't that vampire vs. werewolf movie a lot like matrix? First he's a normal person then becomes this werewolf vampire thing and then saves the people Shocked

Dark City : also matrix like. A man breaks from the system and then fights it in the end becoming the anomaly that has to be destroyed for the system to continue functioning flawlessly. Does it happen? You seen the matrix... what do you think? Razz

Hell even Pinocchio has it. A toy that lives in a fantasy world wants to become normal and live in the real world. So he breaks a bunch of rules here and then. Goes on a journey where he discovers him self and in the end becomes a member of the real world as a real boy. A very touching story. Crying or Very sad


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PostPosted: Thu, 6th Jan 2005 01:46    Post subject:
Well I bought it, and of course, watched it..here is what I think Very Happy

First off, its a great movie, one of the best I have seen as of lately and appreciate all of the response.

Watching The matrix on the day of release for the first time was jaw dropping, I mean, who has ever seen anything like it..? Equilibrium I think was top notch...might of had a low budget BUT the fact that people compare it to the matrix is a accomplishent all on its own..in my opinion I thought equilibrium was like Half-Life 2 to Half-Life 1...The matrix was ground breaking and brought something new to the film scene while equlibrium was in fact a better movie it was just not much different from the matrix. IF I had seen Equilibrium first I think that I would have to say that it would be a better movie =)


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PostPosted: Thu, 6th Jan 2005 09:30    Post subject:
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Dark City : also matrix like. A man breaks from the system and then fights it in the end becoming the anomaly that has to be destroyed for the system to continue functioning flawlessly. Does it happen? You seen the matrix... what do you think?


Dark City was first IIRC, I also beleive the Matrix was heavely infoenced by it (so much so they even stole some of Dark Citys sets)

anyways, thats a great movie.


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