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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Mar 2009 14:50    Post subject:
is that an assumption, or is it a tested statement?


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Mar 2009 14:56    Post subject:
tested.

I updated original release (replacing all files back, except sound) and patched it. So far, no issues. Also in rti money is now as it should be (no more 60k from fur traders and stuff).
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Mar 2009 14:57    Post subject:
Razors pack should fix their release while at the same time removing Steam dependencies compared to what I tried to achieve with my smaller update packs which also requires a loader program to use with the updated content so Razors fix would be better and I assume it also includes the sound_fx.pack file due to it's size.

Strange that the game didn't update for you Cox, I only saw it flash briefly as the EXE was updated fairly quick but it has changed and yeah I also noticed that patch for Steam itself but I installed that earlier.
(That little EXE update is why I repacked my "patch" archive in order to maintain it and keep it up to date.)

And here's the main NCF files for the game.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/q4qwnw
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chakdeindya
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Mar 2009 15:10    Post subject:
I am gonna reinstall razer release from scratch then. I havent played it enough, so no savegames. Whats the sequence to follow. install the razer release without any modifications(changing sequence of sid files) and then run the update 2 from razerdox?

so no need for soundpack, main.pak or Jbeckan's manual patch?


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Mar 2009 15:13    Post subject:
chakdeindya wrote:
I am gonna reinstall razer release from scratch then. I havent played it enough, so no savegames. Whats the sequence to follow. install the razer release without any modifications(changing sequence of sid files) and then run the update 2 from razerdox?

so no need for soundpack, main.pak or Jbeckan's manual patch?

Yes, install RZR release normally, then copy over files from rzr dir on DVD1. Then install update2 and copy over crack from rzr dir of update2.


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Mar 2009 15:42    Post subject:
sound_fx is being processed during patching, but it stays 100% same as before (then again maybe because i alreay have retail file of it, so it may just replace it again lol). Anyway, they added normal updates + fixed .lua's for sure. Alt-tabbing works now (this was a change in official patch), old savegame work fine, exe is updated (date) but stays 1.0.0.0 like retail. Money is now correct in RTI campaign (as far as i can tell so far, before it was foremost the fur traders who had abnormal income numbers).

So far, so good Oh load times during campaign seem a bit shorter IMO (memory management etc ? ) if anything comes up i'll update
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Mar 2009 15:46    Post subject:
Glottis wrote:
Yes, install RZR release normally, then copy over files from rzr dir on DVD1. Then install update2 and copy over crack from rzr dir of update2.

I've installed thr rzr version of the game using the command inside the setup.dat file:

%tempdir%\SimPack.exe x -g10508 -kE4AF83A1FF554288E00A6286ADD2993B "%tempdir%\Empire Total War_disk1.sim" "%dest%"

in order to have the italian language; now how should I do with the new rzr Update? Confused
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Mar 2009 15:53    Post subject:
No idea. I think RZR release as well as update2 are meant to be English only.


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Mar 2009 15:59    Post subject:
So ...this update 2 is or isn't necessary for me ? ( i tried sound fixed , JBeckman' files and patch update )
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Mar 2009 16:08    Post subject:
it fixed severl stability issues, fixed alt tabbing, fixed some other stuff (lua related) etc. Sure can't hurt to install it
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Mar 2009 16:17    Post subject:
Update 2 is less than 500mb, right ? Does it fix that huge sound pack file ? I haven't downloaded that.

Is it really all that's needed, besides the original rzr release ?
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Mar 2009 16:18    Post subject:
Yes, it fixed everything that was wrong with initial release and also brought the game to the latest version.


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Mar 2009 16:37    Post subject:
Glottis wrote:
Yes, it fixed everything that was wrong with initial release and also brought the game to the latest version.

Given the previous trainwreck, I'll wait for a couple more confirmations. But if it's true, awesome!
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Mar 2009 16:45    Post subject:
ShadowB wrote:
Glottis wrote:
Yes, it fixed everything that was wrong with initial release and also brought the game to the latest version.

Given the previous trainwreck, I'll wait for a couple more confirmations. But if it's true, awesome!


I agree!


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Mar 2009 16:53    Post subject:
diplomacy in etw is fun thing lol. I'm playing Prussia, and obviously my first enemy contact was with Poland-Lithuania (who else), i took half their regions (inclusive Poland) and then waited, couple turns later i offered them Poland back , together with a peace treaty and an Alliance. They agreed , obviously. Then i proceeded and did the same with Austria-Hongrary (conquered half their regions incl. Austria, waited couple rounds and gave it back for Peace + Alliance) So now i have a "buffer" inbetween me and Russia and the Ottomans. Fun thing is tho, my Allies tear each other apart lol. Well Austria is tearing a new one to Poland actually (they just conquered Poland Region lol). Still both are my "Allies".

Now who's next ... Sweden (they're holding Hannover) or France (Rhineland and Alsace) ... hm .. my dream of a united German Empire is so damn close ...


ps: Updated game still runs without a hitch.
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Mar 2009 17:17    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
ps: Updated game still runs without a hitch.

Better than prior to the patch? Have you noticed performance improvements? How about the duel videos? Are they still choppy?
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Mar 2009 17:20    Post subject:
What's the problem with just testing the damn thing? Why
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wait for a couple more confirmations.

It's just 400MB ffs. You've downloaded a 12GB game, but find 400MB more too much? Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Mar 2009 17:28    Post subject:
My files are messed up. I would need to totally wipe them and reinstall. And that takes more than 30 minutes, Also applying the update2, then testing. Actually, I'm not in the mood to play this game, I just need to archive it in a good "state" for the near future.
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Mar 2009 17:33    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
What's the problem with just testing the damn thing? Why
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wait for a couple more confirmations.

It's just 400MB ffs. You've downloaded a 12GB game, but find 400MB more too much? Laughing

It's not about just downloading it, but installing it. If it fucks up my game, as VGA said, it's a pain to erase and reinstall everything.

I'm just being cautious. I wasn't when the original Razor1911 release came out, and I ended up reinstalling the game like 3 or 4 times.
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Mar 2009 17:40    Post subject:
Haha, well you should learn to back up your files. Razz I have learned long time ago the hard way, never to overwrite anything without making a copy. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Mar 2009 17:42    Post subject:
I'd rather just be patient this time.
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Mar 2009 17:44    Post subject:
what files lol.

1. copy the content of /RAZOR1911 from disk1 into install dir, overwrite all files it contains.
2. move updater into main dir
3. run updater
4. copy new exe from update 2 into main dir
5. play


i don't see your problems lol.

and jbeckman : perfomance seems better, duel videos still "hitch/slowdown" periodicly.
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Mar 2009 17:51    Post subject:
We both have Fallout avatars, but I'm not JB.
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Mar 2009 17:59    Post subject:
ShadowB wrote:
We both have Fallout avatars, but I'm not JB.


lol sorry
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stku




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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Mar 2009 18:07    Post subject:
well i can say , when i use the manual patch from JBeckman + Revloader , everything go perfect . The duel videos isn't " hitch /slowdown" . Alt+ tab in use now , game load a bit faster , and A.I seem improvement .
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Mar 2009 19:00    Post subject:
As poor as combat AI is, I think the worst part is the campaign map AI. In the time it has taken me to conquer almost a third of europe with Sweden, the other nations have done nothing of significance, making them very easy pickings as small as they are. Even the nations that have armies don't seem to be using them much.
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Mar 2009 19:06    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
ShadowB wrote:
We both have Fallout avatars, but I'm not JB.


lol sorry


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Mar 2009 19:10    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Mar 2009 19:21    Post subject:
Raap wrote:
As poor as combat AI is, I think the worst part is the campaign map AI. In the time it has taken me to conquer almost a third of europe with Sweden, the other nations have done nothing of significance, making them very easy pickings as small as they are. Even the nations that have armies don't seem to be using them much.


Nah I agree the campaign AI is seriously way too passive. I finished a Long Campaign with Sweden and ended up having all of Europe, all of America and half of India. And every single region I conquered basically just sat there waiting.



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