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 Posted: Thu, 25th Dec 2008 17:58 Post subject: Worth RAM Upgrade? |
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I've got 3GB DDR2 RAM @667mhz on my PC (See my signature,P5K Deluxe)
I was wondering if that's enough to boot up or load stuff more faster or that i should get more RAM or change the ones i have to better ones.
The thing is..more RAM with 1066mhz or stay with what i have?,i use Windows XP SP3 (Anti-Vista,but maybe in a future i'll put it on...and i wanna save some time/money before anything)
If u guys recommend me to upgrade,what should i get?,there are these Kingston DDR2@1066mhz 1GB but i dunno how much will they cost for each one..and i only have 4 RAM Slots..
help?
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Big_Gun
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Dec 2008 19:20 Post subject: Re: Worth RAM Upgrade? |
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| DV2 wrote: | I've got 3GB DDR2 RAM @667mhz on my PC (See my signature,P5K Deluxe)
I was wondering if that's enough to boot up or load stuff more faster or that i should get more RAM or change the ones i have to better ones.
The thing is..more RAM with 1066mhz or stay with what i have?,i use Windows XP SP3 (Anti-Vista,but maybe in a future i'll put it on...and i wanna save some time/money before anything)
If u guys recommend me to upgrade,what should i get?,there are these Kingston DDR2@1066mhz 1GB but i dunno how much will they cost for each one..and i only have 4 RAM Slots..
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Your current OS is 32 bit. It wont see or use anything above 3 gigabytes anyway.
I don't think you will notice anything significant with faster ram.
You need a 64 bit OS to take advantage of anything over 3 gigs.
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Dec 2008 19:26 Post subject: |
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Thx,i'll stay my XP SP3 32bit...but how much RAM can Vista detect/use?,the 32bit one
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Dec 2008 19:35 Post subject: |
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The same, the only difference as big_gun stated is whether u use a 32 or 64 bit os.
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CaptainCox
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Dec 2008 20:20 Post subject: Re: Worth RAM Upgrade? |
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| Big_Gun wrote: |
Your current OS is 32 bit. It wont see or use anything above 3 gigabytes anyway.
I don't think you will notice anything significant with faster ram.
You need a 64 bit OS to take advantage of anything over 3 gigs. |
100% agree. If you are not planning at least XPx64 I also don't see the point. |
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Dec 2008 20:23 Post subject: |
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the bad thing is that there's no drivers for 64bit for some stuff,like printers,scanners,etc...i dont know what would happen to games!..
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Dec 2008 20:45 Post subject: |
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Running VISTAx64 and so far no probs my end. And believe me, I am running a lot of apps and games and what have you. I think the x64 drivers thang is sort a in the past by now.
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Dec 2008 21:53 Post subject: |
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| CaptainCox wrote: | | Running VISTAx64 and so far no probs my end. And believe me, I am running a lot of apps and games and what have you. I think the x64 drivers thang is sort a in the past by now. |
I agree. i'm running Vista 64 and I play all games with no problems. All my apps work that I have always used. In fact, some of my older games work within Vista 64 when they WOULDN'T work within Windows XP.
MS dropped the ball with Vista initially and that hurt it. But they have really patched it up quite nicely and I like it. It takes some getting used to though. Things aren't where they were in XP and some things are renamed for no apparent reason such as, you no longer look for uninstall programs in the control panel to remove something. Now, that function is under Programs and Features.
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Dec 2008 21:54 Post subject: |
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| DV2 wrote: | | the bad thing is that there's no drivers for 64bit for some stuff,like printers,scanners,etc...i dont know what would happen to games!.. |
You dont always have to have specific 64 bit drivers.
All my 32 bit apps work fine in Vista 64.
By the way, I was running a system nearly identical to yours under Vista 64 with no problems other than what i was experiencing with my EVGA 680 mobo. But that wasn't Vista 64's fault.
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Dec 2008 22:46 Post subject: |
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Wait,32Bit games/applications with its patches n stuff works with Vista 64bit?,but what's the difference besides the RAM thing?..
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| Posted: Fri, 26th Dec 2008 00:44 Post subject: |
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2 much text @@;;;;...wich point of each link should i just look at?..or is there "in other words" resume?
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| Posted: Fri, 26th Dec 2008 00:55 Post subject: |
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| CaptainCox wrote: | | Running VISTAx64 and so far no probs my end. And believe me, I am running a lot of apps and games and what have you. I think the x64 drivers thang is sort a in the past by now. |
Agreed , the fear of upgrading to Vista 64 is a thing of the past , it's the best OS you could ever run on your computer , I also run a lot of shit in the background and it still runs great
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| Posted: Fri, 26th Dec 2008 00:56 Post subject: |
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So now i can run 32/64bit - x64/x86 applications on Vista?...
btw...Vista runs more faster (Boot,games,applz) than XP with my Intel C2D E6600?..or should i get more RAM with more speed? Oo
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| Posted: Fri, 26th Dec 2008 01:00 Post subject: |
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if you're going vista then you rather go 64, it's faster and more reliable, your C2D will run it great don't forget that it's a 64 processor for a reason
you can grab another 1GB , ram is pretty cheap these days it's never a problem
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| Posted: Fri, 26th Dec 2008 01:02 Post subject: |
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1GB 633Mhz DDR2 Kingston (total of 4GB would be) will be enough?..i can get a pirate Vista SP1 without some shit and run like hell..or something
u havent replied...all 32/64bit-x64/x86 applications/DRIVERS/Games will work without probs on a XP x64/Vista x64 OS??..thats what it worries me the most
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| Posted: Fri, 26th Dec 2008 10:38 Post subject: |
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no driver issues AT ALL as long as your hardware is not 1999 which yours isn't
most games work for me , I yet have to encounter a compatibility error and I have been using it for many many months now, and yes my copy is pirated also , VISTA SP1 64bit OEM doesn't need any activation
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| Posted: Fri, 26th Dec 2008 10:53 Post subject: |
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how about applications? (Sorry for being annoying but i wanna make sure before anything)
I have an HP Scanjet 2200c,in Vista without SP1 didnt worked but with SP1 did! (32bit we're talking)..you mean with 64bit it'll still work along with other hardware (Wacom Bamboo,HP Deskjet 5940,Dazzle Video Capture thingy,etc..)?
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| Posted: Fri, 26th Dec 2008 10:57 Post subject: |
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32bit applications work too , most of my applications are 32 in fact
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| Posted: Fri, 26th Dec 2008 11:09 Post subject: |
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Holy dooley fast answer.but i dont get it,i tought 32bit/x86 was incompatible 100% with 64bit/x64...that's what i've read throu google...
Btw,can you choose x64 at installation or do u have to DL a Vista SP1 with it?
Thanks,that saves me some worries..i'll try gettin' Vista on my 2nd HDD and test it n stuff..i hope my C2D is faster than what it is on XP on Vista (even after applyin' an XP patch with reg edit)
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| Posted: Fri, 26th Dec 2008 13:02 Post subject: |
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| DV2 wrote: | | i'll try gettin' Vista on my 2nd HDD and test it n stuff..i hope my C2D is faster than what it is on XP on Vista (even after applyin' an XP patch with reg edit) |
That's your best bet to see.
I have not had any issues with 32 bit apps. Vista 64 has also been far more stable for me than Windows XP ever was.
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| Posted: Fri, 26th Dec 2008 13:04 Post subject: |
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| DV2 wrote: | Holy dooley fast answer.but i dont get it,i tought 32bit/x86 was incompatible 100% with 64bit/x64...that's what i've read throu google...
Btw,can you choose x64 at installation or do u have to DL a Vista SP1 with it?
Thanks,that saves me some worries..i'll try gettin' Vista on my 2nd HDD and test it n stuff..i hope my C2D is faster than what it is on XP on Vista (even after applyin' an XP patch with reg edit) |
You have to download a 64bit installation.
Did you read the stuff I gave you? It explains why 32bit applications work with 64bit processor/OS.
Edit: Right, it was rl;dr for you  Well, read it when you have time, it's interesting. |
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| Posted: Fri, 26th Dec 2008 23:08 Post subject: |
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iNatan: i've used the firefox "type 2 search" and cant find anything related to "all x86 stuff (applz,games,drivers) are totally compatible with x64",,
Could ya please copy/paste the part where "32bit/x86 compatible with 64bit/x64" appears..no,i'm not lazy,i used the search n cant find a shit..;_____;,call me noob but i dunno much about "Deep Technology talk"
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| Posted: Fri, 26th Dec 2008 23:11 Post subject: |
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Dude, WTF!? I even gave you a link in Spanish! Just open the links and it's enough to read the title to see where to read. 
What do you think the "32 bits contra 64 bits" section is for? 
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| Posted: Fri, 26th Dec 2008 23:22 Post subject: |
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Team Fortress 2's Spy: Gentlemen!..with my apologies!
Ok,i saw the "64 bit architecture supports 32 n 64 bit applications"..i have to say my memory FAILS when it finds something and must look for it again ^^;...
Ummm having a x64 XP would make booting (aka WXP Bar scrollin at pc Turn on) a lot faster and all faster?..
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| Posted: Fri, 26th Dec 2008 23:29 Post subject: |
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*yawn* dont bother mate.. save up for DDR3 and the next platform
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| Posted: Fri, 26th Dec 2008 23:31 Post subject: |
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| DV2 wrote: | Team Fortress 2's Spy: Gentlemen!..with my apologies!
Ok,i saw the "64 bit architecture supports 32 n 64 bit applications"..i have to say my memory FAILS when it finds something and must look for it again ^^;...
Ummm having a x64 XP would make booting (aka WXP Bar scrollin at pc Turn on) a lot faster and all faster?.. |
XP x64 is a waste of time, it's incompatible with tons of stuff, unstable... Basically a shoddy attempt by Microsoft to fulfill a promise they once made. Poor support etc...
Either stick with XP 32-bit or eat your stupid illogical Vista hatred and go Vista x64.
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| Posted: Fri, 26th Dec 2008 23:31 Post subject: |
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well,but i dun wanna get another MoBo n another CPU for the speedness i want
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..unless there's a LIGHT Vista and with SP2 (whenever it's retail/full),then we'll see..thou..i'll stick my ass to XP 
