Piracy is Keeping EndWar off the PC, says UbiSoft
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sway187




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 18:11    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
everytime some big greedy rich ass publishing co. trying to excuse themself by delaying, making or not half assed pc ports this stealing bs comes up
no matter how much u will leech those games they still will be driving ferrari's where u will stay poor ass mofos who think that buying games is actually supporting developers




O dear.. you just dont get it... Rolling Eyes

Yes the boys at the top will stay living a luxurty life BUT its a BUSINESS.

and the facts are PC games game dont generate as much money as consoles.

also to the people saying they couldnt give a fuck about UBI soft and their games....

This will affect all PC games, it wouldnt suprise me if a pc series such as Half-life or STALKER went console only.

Then maybe the people in denial would wise up a little...
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cybtropic




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 18:11    Post subject:
I can understand how europeons would not have a problem stealing. I mean they basically work for free as the gov. steals 70% of what they make for "welfare programs."

Americans got no excuse though.
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cybtropic




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 18:14    Post subject:
I hope everyone who justifies stealing gets ROBBED on the way home from work, everyday.
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 18:18    Post subject:
sway187 wrote:
This will affect all PC games, it wouldnt suprise me if a pc series such as Half-life or STALKER went console only.


stalker was always half assed filled with buggs pos and it was pc only
i enjoyed hl2 on 360 more than pc coz it was finally optimized

cybtropic wrote:
I hope everyone who justifies stealing gets ROBBED on the way home from work, everyday.


pffft Laughing

for me if i can't touch i'm not stealing it so gtfo pliz


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Mr.Tinkles




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 18:18    Post subject:
Yeah, because getting robbed and downloading software are exactley the same thing....


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VGAdeadcafe




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 18:18    Post subject:
@ cybtronic

Troll much ?
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 18:21    Post subject:
Prefetian wrote:
Yeah, because getting robbed and downloading software are exactley the same thing....


sure coz if u still games some poor bastard wouldn't be able to afford new condo Laughing
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cybtropic




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 18:23    Post subject:
This doesn't have ANYTHING to do with games!! Its all about whether stealing is okay or not.
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cybtropic




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 18:25    Post subject:
[quote="Mortibus]

pffft Laughing

for me if i can't touch i'm not stealing it so gtfo pliz[/quote]


Okay I hope someone steals your bank account and wires your money to his. That why you won't have a problem with it.


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Mr.Tinkles




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 18:25    Post subject:
The law clearly states in most countries that downloading software illegaly is not the same as stealing, hence your argument is not valid.

Ohh, and you're an idiot....


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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 18:25    Post subject:
that didn't even made any sence
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cybtropic




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 18:29    Post subject:
Prefetian wrote:
The law clearly states in most countries that downloading software illegaly is not the same as stealing, hence your argument is not valid.

Ohh, and you're an idiot....


Learn me teach.
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Mr.Tinkles




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 18:33    Post subject:
This whole things has been chewed over and over a bunch of times, somone posted exactly this like over a year ago (an actual link which states this). However I don't care to convince you, since that wasn't my actual point, the whole sentence was building up to me calling you an idiot. Smile


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cybtropic




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 18:37    Post subject:
I'm an idiot because the backward country you live in doesn't think that downloading illegally is stealing. Eat paint chips much?
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Mr.Tinkles




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 18:38    Post subject:
Yeah, you pretty much hit the nail on the nuts there pal.....


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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 18:42    Post subject:
cybtropic wrote:
I'm an idiot because the backward country you live in doesn't think that downloading illegally is stealing. Eat paint chips much?


backward country? so i presume u are an american?! stealing oil from backward countries and killing their ppl is ok, but dlding games is just evil
figures Laughing
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cybtropic




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 18:43    Post subject:
No it is not okay, and neither is stealing games. But I guess you think stealing oil is bad but stealing games is okay.

Maybe you should think about being F**ing CONSISTENT!
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Mr.Tinkles




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 18:46    Post subject:
Manslaughter is not murder, but both are crimes.
Downloading software illegaly is not stealing, yet both are crimes.

Get my drift or are you too dimwitted to understand subtle differences? ^_^

It's semantics but still...they're not the same.


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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 18:46    Post subject:
cybtropic wrote:
No it is not okay, and neither is stealing games. But I guess you think stealing oil is bad but stealing games is okay.

Maybe you should think about being F**ing CONSISTENT!


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cybtropic




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 18:49    Post subject:
Prefetian wrote:
Manslaughter is not murder, but both are crimes.
Downloading software illegaly is not stealing, yet both are crimes.

Get my drift or are you too dimwitted to understand subtle differences? ^_^

It's semantics but still...they're not the same.


So you are a criminal but not a thief? HAHAHA

Taking or using someone's work WITHOUT paying for it is stealing. Now you remind me of Pres. Bush who redefines words if he doesn't like the definition.


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Cohen




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 18:51    Post subject:
ubisoft's statements hold the same importance as my arse does for world peace.

As soon as they start learning how to make games for the pc instead of porting shit console crap onto PC with as much optimization as my wrist watch, people will start caring. Until then, GTFO.


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Mr.Tinkles




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 18:52    Post subject:
That was the worst argument I have heard this week, thanks alot numbnuts cause I'll feel good for completely ignoring you from now on.
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DarkPassenger




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 18:53    Post subject:
cybtropic wrote:
Prefetian wrote:
Manslaughter is not murder, but both are crimes.
Downloading software illegaly is not stealing, yet both are crimes.

Get my drift or are you too dimwitted to understand subtle differences? ^_^

It's semantics but still...they're not the same.


So you are a criminal but not a thief? HAHAHA

Taking or using someone's work WITHOUT paying for it is stealing. Now you remind me of Pres. Bush who redefines words if he doesn't like the definition.

Copyright infringement?
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cybtropic




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 18:54    Post subject:
Prefetian wrote:
That was the worst argument I have heard this week, thanks alot numbnuts cause I'll feel good for completely ignoring you from now on.


In the post above you just admitted that downloading illegally is a crime but not stealing.

So you are a criminal but not a thief? THat makes you feel better?
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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 18:57    Post subject:
GOOD pc games sell.

Piracy = Lazy excuse to keep investors happy.

"S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: 2.000.000 copies sold 3 September 2008"

"The Witcher sells a million copies... and still counting. " (almost a year ago)

"Sins of a Solar Empire Crosses Half a Million Mark"

fuck even crysis sold far more than a million copies.

i could post dozens of examples of other games.
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krackhead




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 19:23    Post subject:
-=Cartoon=- wrote:
GOOD pc games sell.

Piracy = Lazy excuse to keep investors happy.

"S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: 2.000.000 copies sold 3 September 2008"

"The Witcher sells a million copies... and still counting. " (almost a year ago)

"Sins of a Solar Empire Crosses Half a Million Mark"

fuck even crysis sold far more than a million copies.

i could post dozens of examples of other games.


correction, Crytek lied about sales figures for Crysis, they sold over 3 million copies of the game and still they keep up piracy ruined the game and they wouldnt support it anymore, they just wanted to milk the consumers buy making the exact same game from a different perspecitve
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krackhead




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 19:31    Post subject:
Quote:

the first games that become pirated are console games, so it is a bullshit reason to not make a game for pc


there are more piracy in the PC then the consoles,why?
Because Modchip or firmware your console
coast you the responsibility from the company on your console and can risk your console.most of the people
don't want it.[/quote]

ehm that last sentence made no sense whatsoever?

what makes you think consoles are pirated less? everybody has it modded with a chip or has the firmware changed to be able to play games without playing
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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 19:33    Post subject:
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GOOD pc games sell.

Piracy = Lazy excuse to keep investors happy.

+ 10,050 ! So bloody correct it brutally-reeks of "truthiness". Razz


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Joutilas




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 20:04    Post subject:
I sez a troll in da house!

For me, piracy is as much stealing as watching movies from TV or renting books from library is. I'm willing to get lesser experience than those who buy the game, as I don't perceive the product valuable enough to buy it. If pirating games comes hard enough, then I'll simply stop playing them. Occasionally the pirated copy proves to be worth purchasing, giving the companies revenue (which they wouldn't be getting without piracy).

No matter how much you shout "piracy is stealing" and how much deeper you shove your fingers into your eardrums, I still won't see piracy as stealing - it is a question of morals after all.

And this is coming from somebody who is striving to work professionally in the gaming industry.
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Surray




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 20:32    Post subject:
krackhead wrote:
what makes you think consoles are pirated less? everybody has it modded with a chip or has the firmware changed to be able to play games without playing



what he said is perfectly correct. to download games for the 360 you need a dual layer dvd burner, high quality discs, and a modded console.

on the pc you need an internet connection.

it's only natural that pc games get pirated more, because it's much easier, and as he mentioned, modding your console puts the console at risk, it could break, and you lose your warranty, which is a very dangerous thing especially with the 360 as it likes to die so much.


on the pc every idiot who has no idea what the fuck he's doing can go on a torrent site and download something, but for consoles, the 'casual' pirates who have trouble extracting rar files are too afraid to mod their consoles.

plus you run the risk of getting banned from xbox live.
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