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I think it'll be enough fun to try out. I like these post-apocalyptic worlds and even though I'm no RPG fan, I'll definitely check it out.
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Aug 2008 15:32 Post subject: |
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I'll try it too, but i'm not getting my hopes up just yet. Maybe, i'll repent after i've played it and come back here with a tail between my legs saying it's the most awesome game in the world, but i'm not counting on it.
"YARR! We be stealin' yer games an plundrin' yer gold!" sez the pirate.
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Aug 2008 16:50 Post subject: |
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I'm pirating it as well. It's the thought that counts.
Gustave the Steel
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Aug 2008 17:26 Post subject: |
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| Spiderman wrote: | | NuclearShadow wrote: | | Spiderman wrote: | WAIT the whole game will be in one CITY ,
thats not even fallout , consoles WTF have you done to this game |
how could you make a large wasteland attractive in a open world in 3D? |
1.make a gigantic map
2.post 35 cities on it
3.you move in 2D map view on it with a 3d model (think Final Fantasy)
4.with random encounters (THINK MOTHER FUCKING FINAL FANTASY)
5.that turn into 3d when (see UP)
6.the CITIES are BIG
7.Make IT A 3 - 2 DVD9 game not some PUSSY LIKE 1 DVD (see 4dvd9 of Lost odyssey or 3 dvd 9 of Blue Dragon )
But yeah what we get its a gore filled ADD kiddie game for adults streamlined for the dumb console folks that love to stare at the TV , this game is now a failure ... think Oblivion with guns on a smaller ONE CITY MAP = Fallout3 , yes we all knew from the start it will be like this |
You do have some interesting ideas. But I do disagree with some of it.
#4 and 5 are fatally flawed. Being in first person and then suddenly jumping into a map full of enemies might be extremely frustrating. Think of a raider ambush you spawn on the map and enemies are opening fire on you in every direction. Basically you would spawn screwed because you can't even see where all the enemies are like in the original Fallouts plus the originals were turn based which made it allot easier to live such a situation. If the AI can at least shoot decently in Fallout 3 this type of encounter would be nearly impossible to live.
#6 is all wrong as most towns don't have that large of a population in Fallout Klamath for example was a rather small trapper town not every place would or even could be like NCR
as the population would be way to low to have so many people fill large towns and cities anyway
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Aug 2008 18:41 Post subject: |
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| NuclearShadow wrote: | | Spiderman wrote: | | NuclearShadow wrote: |
how could you make a large wasteland attractive in a open world in 3D? |
1.make a gigantic map
2.post 35 cities on it
3.you move in 2D map view on it with a 3d model (think Final Fantasy)
4.with random encounters (THINK MOTHER FUCKING FINAL FANTASY)
5.that turn into 3d when (see UP)
6.the CITIES are BIG
7.Make IT A 3 - 2 DVD9 game not some PUSSY LIKE 1 DVD (see 4dvd9 of Lost odyssey or 3 dvd 9 of Blue Dragon )
But yeah what we get its a gore filled ADD kiddie game for adults streamlined for the dumb console folks that love to stare at the TV , this game is now a failure ... think Oblivion with guns on a smaller ONE CITY MAP = Fallout3 , yes we all knew from the start it will be like this |
You do have some interesting ideas. But I do disagree with some of it.
#4 and 5 are fatally flawed. Being in first person and then suddenly jumping into a map full of enemies might be extremely frustrating. Think of a raider ambush you spawn on the map and enemies are opening fire on you in every direction. Basically you would spawn screwed because you can't even see where all the enemies are like in the original Fallouts plus the originals were turn based which made it allot easier to live such a situation. If the AI can at least shoot decently in Fallout 3 this type of encounter would be nearly impossible to live.
#6 is all wrong as most towns don't have that large of a population in Fallout Klamath for example was a rather small trapper town not every place would or even could be like NCR
as the population would be way to low to have so many people fill large towns and cities anyway |
#4 and 5 you got VATS that turn this game into a turn base game
#6 thats the point of it to show the emptiness of the world , fallout 2 had big towns that only had 7 npcs , but first you have to scavenge the ruins of this radioactive wasteland city to find them
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Aug 2008 18:50 Post subject: |
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VATS wouldn't make this game turn based in any way. From what we know, it has nothing to do with turns.
It's actually just a power up gauge that stops time, which is the equivalent of playing Fallout Tactics with infinite AP.
Gustave the Steel
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Aug 2008 18:58 Post subject: |
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Hmmm I never played either of the previous Fallout games.
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Aug 2008 19:06 Post subject: |
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| KrAzY-KaMeL wrote: | | Hmmm I never played either of the previous Fallout games. |
Try giving them a go if you can stomach them. They're great games, but I guess they just aren't for everyone.
Otherwise, enjoy your Fallout 3.
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Aug 2008 19:49 Post subject: |
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Yeah I'm gonna give them a try right now. I just really hope the only resemblance Fallout 3 has with Oblivion is the engine. I say this because I think Oblivion is garbage as I am a huge RPG fan and Oblivion seemed to be devoloped with the RPG element taking a back seat.
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Aug 2008 23:08 Post subject: |
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| KrAzY-KaMeL wrote: | | Yeah I'm gonna give them a try right now. I just really hope the only resemblance Fallout 3 has with Oblivion is the engine. I say this because I think Oblivion is garbage as I am a huge RPG fan and Oblivion seemed to be devoloped with the RPG element taking a back seat. |
Well Fallout is a great RPG with real RPG elements. Not just the stat and level up system but true role playing as you really do role play and the choices you make are completely up to you. The Fallout games have allot of freedom even compared to games today. You won't regret playing them.
As for Fallout 3... don't put your hopes up to high.
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Aug 2008 22:35 Post subject: |
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Well FO3 looks very nice to me in the new videos.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Aug 2008 01:38 Post subject: |
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I'm glad they pushed it back a couple extra weeks. Gives me time to make sure I have the $70 for the Collector's Edition ready.
Correcting people since 2007 even if they're not wrong.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Aug 2008 04:04 Post subject: |
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| Reklis wrote: |
aah, the good old fallout times, drug use reward...
i remember having this one char who was kinda ... dumb, only way i got him to have a conversation that was at least a bit useful i had him doped on mentats all the time - of course i got addicted yay that was fun  |
Wow, I never realised just how relevant the satire in fallout was, it's even more masterful that they managed to incorporate it into the gameplay. Maybe I should have persevered and actually finished the game, too late now. 
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Karmeck
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Aug 2008 13:03 Post subject: |
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| AKofC wrote: | VATS wouldn't make this game turn based in any way. From what we know, it has nothing to do with turns.
It's actually just a power up gauge that stops time, which is the equivalent of playing Fallout Tactics with infinite AP. |
What I understand the game will still make use of AP especially in VATS.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Aug 2008 13:07 Post subject: |
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The VATS system is similar to Tactics when playing "real-time". You get your AP's back after x seconds.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Aug 2008 13:08 Post subject: |
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Want, want, want, want!!!!!!
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Aug 2008 14:23 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | | I hope, however, that this piece of news doesn't affect the WHOLE world just because of the actions of Australia and their bullshit censorship; |
The changes will be for Australia only.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Aug 2008 14:31 Post subject: |
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Thank fuck! I mean, I feel bad for Australia, but there's no reason why the whole world should have to suffer because of it. We've already dealt with that shit courtesy of America with the whole Manhunt 2 debacle.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Aug 2008 15:00 Post subject: |
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The australian thing is basically a text-only change. They (my country) objected to the use of real life drugs being used as stimulants. Morphine and I think a second one specifically. It's not really going to hold back development. Just call 'em Stimulants or whatever ingame.
EDIT lol didn't read thread, continue.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Aug 2008 15:22 Post subject: |
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Good to hear! I don't care if they change the NAME of the stims ... it was just the "reward and incentive for using them has been diminished" part I didn't like the sound of.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Aug 2008 15:47 Post subject: |
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This is one of those games I expected to be garbage as soon as I heard Bethesda was making it, and my expectations have actually been lowered with every new piece of information released.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Aug 2008 18:35 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Aug 2008 18:44 Post subject: |
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*moans with sexual desire*
Other than the next Final Fantasy game .. there has NEVER been a game I have wanted more badly than this.
Never.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Aug 2008 19:07 Post subject: |
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Wow, the last video when the bomb goes of is great, this game will rock with a couple of dozen mods.
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