Time to buy a new rig! Looking to spend about $5500
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jan 2008 01:42    Post subject: Time to buy a new rig! Looking to spend about $5500
Since my old piece of shit rig is now three years old it's time to get a new one, however i haven't updated myself very much on what's hot or not so i don't really know what to get

If you where to spend about $5500 what would you get??
No need for screen, keyboard etc. Just computer and speakers!

Thanks beforehand!


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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jan 2008 02:04    Post subject: Re: Time to buy a new rig! Looking to spend about $5500
ollax wrote:
If you where to spend about $5500 what would you get??


decent car

on the other hand if u got money to burn as it seems to be

q6600
4gb ram [expensive one]
8800GTX

and u can come up with the rest altho i doubt it will cover half of what u intend to spend
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jan 2008 02:17    Post subject:
triple sli 8800gtx ultras... no particular reason cept to say u have it Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jan 2008 02:41    Post subject:
what about the 1 gig 8800 gt's in sli, good or bad?


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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jan 2008 04:28    Post subject:
1. A Quad Core
2. Gobs of Ram
3. High End motherboard with tons of features nobody will ever use
4. A couple high end graphics cards
5. Tons of 10k RPM HDD's in Raid542
6. A 1400Watt powersupply
7. A massive case with either 15 fans or Water
8. A blu-ray drive - ha ha ha Laughing
9. Giant LCD

I think that about sums it up. You can't really go wrong with anything on the market right now if the price is high enough.
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jan 2008 05:00    Post subject:
Ya seriously tho, you can get a a pretty decent system for half the price. Anything is else overkill or should be donated to me.


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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jan 2008 12:24    Post subject:
get triple-sli 8800 ultras
8gb memory
qx6950 or smth, anywho most expensive quad core Laughing

and u're set


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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jan 2008 13:56    Post subject:
Thanks dudes!

I don't need to spend $5500 but i can if necessary, if i could get away with $4000 or $3000 then fine, i just want the damn comp to be fast enough to run the latest games at full potential

Are the gtx ultras so much better than the gt's?


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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jan 2008 17:16    Post subject:
I don't get why you advice him -if seriously- to get some 8800 GTX or ultras. They are powerful but outdated, over-priced and soon EOL.

@ ollax

The 8800 GT 1GB is afair something like 10% better than its 512MB counterpart. Excepting for crysis or if you play at uber high resolutions, for the time being a SLI of 8800 GT or 8800 GTS 512mb should be more than enuff, then wait for the new nvidia cards to spend your cash.
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jan 2008 22:26    Post subject:
$en$i wrote:
I don't get why you advice him -if seriously- to get some 8800 GTX or ultras. They are powerful but outdated, over-priced and soon EOL.

@ ollax

The 8800 GT 1GB is afair something like 10% better than its 512MB counterpart. Excepting for crysis or if you play at uber high resolutions, for the time being a SLI of 8800 GT or 8800 GTS 512mb should be more than enuff, then wait for the new nvidia cards to spend your cash.


it`s not better at all... the 256 bit interface with these memory speeds cant`t provide even near enough bandwith for 1 gig memory... sure there are a few mods out there that could use the ram - but it would be much wiser to either get two gts 512 or save the money and wait for the next generation high end cards - if you can wait some more month, that would be the best decision imo.
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jan 2008 22:53    Post subject:
AwE wrote:
it`s not better at all... the 256 bit interface with these memory speeds cant`t provide even near enough bandwith for 1 gig memory... sure there are a few mods out there that could use the ram - but it would be much wiser to either get two gts 512 or save the money and wait for the next generation high end cards - if you can wait some more month, that would be the best decision imo.
I know that there is only a little performance boost for the GT 1GB version, something like 10%, i just reply to his earlier question about it. Like you advice and what i have written above i would take an SLI of GT or GTS 512MB and wait for a newer nvidia card, rather than taking a bunch of costly, power hungry and outdated 8800GTX/Ultra.
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jan 2008 23:08    Post subject:
10 %?
no... more like 1 % - and that 1% in the test linked below isn`t even a result of the memory... it is because the card they reviewed has a higher core clock then the 8800 gt 512 mb... It`s more like a "first look", but you can find more test if you google for it...
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4834&Itemid=40

the gts 512 is ~10% faster... in some games (crysis fe) even more.
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jan 2008 23:32    Post subject:
AwE wrote:
10 %?
no... more like 1 % - and that 1% in the test linked below isn`t even a result of the memory... it is because the card they reviewed has a higher core clock then the 8800 gt 512 mb... It`s more like a "first look", but you can find more test if you google for it...
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4834&Itemid=40

the gts 512 is ~10% faster... in some games (crysis fe) even more.
Hmm you are right there, i must have mixed with the GTS or that was either an OC version or benchmarked at a very high resolution. Smile

http://en.expreview.com/?p=159&page=10
http://en.expreview.com/?p=159&page=11

Edit: actually for Company of heroes it is well around 10%:

http://en.expreview.com/?p=159&page=16


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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jan 2008 23:34    Post subject:
lol ... the last time ollax asked for advice Wink

http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16743&highlight=

funny how expensive that stuff was back then Razz


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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Jan 2008 00:11    Post subject:
$en$i wrote:
AwE wrote:
10 %?
no... more like 1 % - and that 1% in the test linked below isn`t even a result of the memory... it is because the card they reviewed has a higher core clock then the 8800 gt 512 mb... It`s more like a "first look", but you can find more test if you google for it...
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4834&Itemid=40

the gts 512 is ~10% faster... in some games (crysis fe) even more.
Hmm you are right there, i must have mixed with the GTS or that was either an OC version or benchmarked at a very high resolution. Smile

http://en.expreview.com/?p=159&page=10
http://en.expreview.com/?p=159&page=11

Edit: actually for Company of heroes it is well around 10%:

http://en.expreview.com/?p=159&page=16


Either way it doesn't matter, whether or not the performance increase is worth the increased price is irrelevent as he's looking for the best future proofed rig. With money not being a constraint might as well get the 1Gig for it's potential to outperform the 512 version alone.
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Jan 2008 00:41    Post subject:
Funnier you guys are recommending SLI when about 4 games actually support the use of it.


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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Jan 2008 00:57    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
Funnier you guys are recommending SLI when about 4 games actually support the use of it.


If you had $5k, would you "just" buy a single card? As much as I hate SLi and it's uselessness, If I had tons of money to shell out I'd buy 12 cards and cram them into the case whether it works or not.
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Jan 2008 01:02    Post subject:
KrAzY-KaMeL wrote:
SpykeZ wrote:
Funnier you guys are recommending SLI when about 4 games actually support the use of it.


If you had $5k, would you "just" buy a single card? As much as I hate SLi and it's uselessness, If I had tons of money to shell out I'd buy 12 cards and cram them into the case whether it works or not.


No, I'd buy the best one available then load up on rquipment like a damn good sound system and huge ass monitor, then a bunch on storage.


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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Jan 2008 01:16    Post subject:
Forget about the one gig gt's then!

So what are the specs for next gen high end cards? I heard they weren't all that good for what you will have pay for them!


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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Jan 2008 01:20    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
lol ... the last time ollax asked for advice Wink

http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16743&highlight=

funny how expensive that stuff was back then Razz



I actually never got around to order that comp, to much shit all of a sudden dropped on my lap, separation from wife, best friends suicide etc, but life moves on and its time to upgrade the comp and the gf is already updated;-)


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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Jan 2008 01:51    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
KrAzY-KaMeL wrote:
SpykeZ wrote:
Funnier you guys are recommending SLI when about 4 games actually support the use of it.


If you had $5k, would you "just" buy a single card? As much as I hate SLi and it's uselessness, If I had tons of money to shell out I'd buy 12 cards and cram them into the case whether it works or not.


No, I'd buy the best one available then load up on rquipment like a damn good sound system and huge ass monitor, then a bunch on storage.


With no monetary constraints? You'd still buy a single card? All that other stuff you mentioned is a given with that amount of dough.

But even with a money ceiling I still consider 5.5k for a rig as "infinite" money LoL. You can basically get anything on the planet. Only thing that could set you back is a LCD depending on how big you go-go-gadget.
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Jan 2008 02:05    Post subject:
KrAzY-KaMeL wrote:
SpykeZ wrote:
Funnier you guys are recommending SLI when about 4 games actually support the use of it.


If you had $5k, would you "just" buy a single card? As much as I hate SLi and it's uselessness, If I had tons of money to shell out I'd buy 12 cards and cram them into the case whether it works or not.


i'd rather feed some homeless bums on the street rather than spending shit load of cash on something real useless

or buy something that has it's use

hey but that's just me
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Jan 2008 02:24    Post subject:
Whilst in fantasy-land, with fists of cash to burn, build a machine around:

Intel D5400XS (Skulltrail) motherboard
16GB RAM
2 x 45nm LGA 771 Quads
5 x 1TB HDD

... then again, that lot would be quite a wad of cash on it's own Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Jan 2008 02:57    Post subject:
Laughing

right... ddr3 is a must!

No really... if i wont have a limit I would buy an intel e8500 (dual core), a decent x38 board, 8 gigs ram, 8800 gts or 2x3870 crossfire, silverstone psu, a big shiny alu tower, ~30" LCD Screen, a better teufel soundsystem, well... thats all i guess...

sure u can waste way more money - but what do you get? 5% more performance for 100% more money....
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Jan 2008 04:11    Post subject:
ManMountain wrote:
Whilst in fantasy-land, with fists of cash to burn, build a machine around:

Intel D5400XS (Skulltrail) motherboard
16GB RAM
2 x 45nm LGA 771 Quads
5 x 1TB HDD

... then again, that lot would be quite a wad of cash on it's own Smile


WTF? With unlimited cash to burn why get plain ol' conventional HDD's? Those are obsolete.

Get 5 or more of these babies:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820609245


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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Jan 2008 13:07    Post subject:
Heh invest in stocks rather than buying something stupid like SLI.
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Jan 2008 13:23    Post subject:
Rather one 9800 (when its out) than 2x8800GTX/Ultra
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Jan 2008 17:35    Post subject:
YEAH BABY
http://www.nordichardware.se/image3.php?id=4680


On a seriuos note tough, usually when there is a new generation of "high end" cards being released, performance usualkly almost doubbles from previous cards.

The 9800 only addds 30% on the 8800ultra and is basicly two 8800gts stuck togheter:-(

Basicly it should be called 8800 GTS X2....

Sofar there is no real "new" cards coming out!

Not even sure this crap supports DX 10.1


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