[XBOX360] Microsoft Banning Modded Xboxes Thread
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Fidai




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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 19:26    Post subject:
2 question plz, dunno if its was posted already it just am at work now and cant read all these posts Smile.

If i have a modded xbox360 and i go offline while playing copyed games do i get banned?

If i buy a legit game and play it online then go offline and play a copyed one do i get banned?

THank u in advance.
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 19:48    Post subject:
1. no
2. dunno... im wondering about that too


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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 20:03    Post subject:
Wahad wrote:
1. no
You don'y know that.

No one knows for sure, but you'll probably get banned either way so prepare for the worst if your willing to take the risk.
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 20:22    Post subject:
ye ofc, i wont mod my xbox but think racionaly for a sec ... they cant check your console if you're offline
that's the fact


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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 20:39    Post subject:
Hahahahahahahahahaha.
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 20:44    Post subject:
hmmm ok... what's so funny?


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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 21:27    Post subject:
What about if, for example, crackdown forces a check to see if the drive is hacked. if its detected, it stores this fact in memory. when you next go on live, the live servers pole this memory store to check. It's not rocket science. Everything is speculation anyway!


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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 21:35    Post subject:
of cource, the best thing for now is to wait to see if modder will have solution for this problem... but i have no doubt that they will find the way to spoil all m$ fun with this banning stuff Smile


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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 21:59    Post subject:
Horrordee wrote:
What about if, for example, crackdown forces a check to see if the drive is hacked. if its detected, it stores this fact in memory. when you next go on live, the live servers pole this memory store to check. It's not rocket science. Everything is speculation anyway!


people have been banned without even playing crackdown...


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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 22:49    Post subject:
Steve-O 2004 wrote:
Horrordee wrote:
What about if, for example, crackdown forces a check to see if the drive is hacked. if its detected, it stores this fact in memory. when you next go on live, the live servers pole this memory store to check. It's not rocket science. Everything is speculation anyway!


people have been banned without even playing crackdown...


I'm not denying theres not more than one method. I.e the new spring dash might do it too. It's unlikely theres just one method of detection!


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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 22:50    Post subject:
Wahad wrote:
of cource, the best thing for now is to wait to see if modder will have solution for this problem... but i have no doubt that they will find the way to spoil all m$ fun with this banning stuff Smile


They never got around the problem on the original xbox. I think it goes against the hacker ethos anyway. Specially when the protection is properly cracked and people can hack and cheat on the games!


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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 22:58    Post subject:
just talked to one fella, he was on vacation for about 3 month never played crackdown or updated with latest dash, second he connected to live! BAMS ban
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 23:19    Post subject:
was in his xbox360 any game at that moment when he connected to Live?


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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 23:31    Post subject:
exactly, did he have a copied game in? i haven't put a copied game in my drive since the bans started. when I do, i will disconnect from the net before doing it.


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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 23:39    Post subject:
no, he just wanted to get forza 2 demo, but didn't even managed to connect to live!
he said i don't give a crap will try full version Laughing
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gui1e




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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 23:55    Post subject:
I was banned today.
I've never played a back up online only my originals. updated firmware prior to the spring update to ms28 5.3c. Since the spring update I'v only played forza demo and live arcade games.

My theory is that ms can detect a back up some how and we're not aware of it as yet. I think the bans a rolled out a bit at a time so I think all modded boxes will get it in the end. I think there something about this jitter detection that c4e and others have missed.


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PostPosted: Sun, 20th May 2007 01:00    Post subject:
Zeljo wrote:
This was just posted on Microsoft's Games Global Marketing team blog:

One of the great things about LIVE and the unified community is that we work hard to create a level playing field for all gamers and have a no tolerance policy towards inappropriate behavior like hacking or cheating. As part of our commitment to our members, we do not allow people that we have detected to have modified their console to connect to LIVE. This is an important part of our efforts to try and maintain a fair gaming environment for the large majority of gamers that play by the rules. This topic is more important than ever given the recent release of the Halo 3 beta. As a result, some consumers that try to login to LIVE who we detect have illegally modified their console will get an error code (Status Code: Z: 8015 - 190D) when trying to connect to the service. These users will not have their account automatically banned from LIVE, but they will no longer be able to access the service from the console they modified.

We have stated in the past that customers can only enjoy access to the Xbox LIVE community through the use of a genuine, unmodified, Xbox console and we will continue to enforce this rule to ensure the integrity of our service, the protection of our partners and the benefits of our users.

Good on them
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th May 2007 01:07    Post subject:
u can't cheat with 360 back ups like with xbox1, their excuse is pathetic
should've just been; "we wan't ya all to buy games at it full real price so gtfo" Razz
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th May 2007 11:45    Post subject:
gui1e wrote:
I was banned today.
I've never played a back up online only my originals. updated firmware prior to the spring update to ms28 5.3c. Since the spring update I'v only played forza demo and live arcade games.

My theory is that ms can detect a back up some how and we're not aware of it as yet. I think the bans a rolled out a bit at a time so I think all modded boxes will get it in the end. I think there something about this jitter detection that c4e and others have missed.


Yes but if the jitter thing is true, then they must also store something on your hard drive, because if you never played a backup while online, how would they detect it? Some guys are doing tests running consoles with no dvd drive to see if it still gets banned, that way they caan establish whether the hard drive stores data about what you have been playing.
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th May 2007 11:48    Post subject:
MrBungle2007 wrote:
Some guys are doing tests running consoles with no dvd drive to see if it still gets banned

Won't you get the E65 error when running without a dvd drive immediately when booting up the console? So can they test it?


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PostPosted: Sun, 20th May 2007 11:51    Post subject:
Xtreme online firmware to come - do not ask for ETA, for new and unbanned consoles


interesting
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th May 2007 12:07    Post subject:
Well after the 5.3x fluke, I must say I have my doubts if it can fix anything.


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PostPosted: Sun, 20th May 2007 12:19    Post subject:
Parallax_ wrote:
MrBungle2007 wrote:
Some guys are doing tests running consoles with no dvd drive to see if it still gets banned

Won't you get the E65 error when running without a dvd drive immediately when booting up the console? So can they test it?


Dunno mate. Some guys that do modding have machines running. Some pther people have mentioned it as well, so I guess there is a way to get the machine running fine with no drive. No idea how though.

But so far the machine haven't been banned which suggest that the hard drive doesn't store anything. In which case it's more than likely they can detect firmware changes rather than backups.
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th May 2007 12:54    Post subject:
So hear this. I start my xbox 360 to play halo 3, but it won't connect to live so of course I thought uh oh.

I check that everything is in place as it should be and indeed it is, I try to connect again but nothing. At that time, I thought for sure I got banned so I checked my internet connection, checked the error code but my z is still at 0000 - 0000. I found it weird as I couildn't for the life of me connect to live, but then I got an idea, I took the internet cable and with full force shove it up in xbox 360's ass and voila, it connected!

After all this, all I can do is laugh at everyone that got banned as I enjoy my halo 3 and Live.
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th May 2007 13:06    Post subject:
Nex33 wrote:
So hear this. I start my xbox 360 to play halo 3, but it won't connect to live so of course I thought uh oh.

I check that everything is in place as it should be and indeed it is, I try to connect again but nothing. At that time, I thought for sure I got banned so I checked my internet connection, checked the error code but my z is still at 0000 - 0000. I found it weird as I couildn't for the life of me connect to live, but then I got an idea, I took the internet cable and with full force shove it up in xbox 360's ass and voila, it connected!

After all this, all I can do is laugh at everyone that got banned as I enjoy my halo 3 and Live.


I highly doubt that they are finished with the banning, so enjoy it while it lasts.


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PostPosted: Sun, 20th May 2007 14:27    Post subject:
Nex33 wrote:
So hear this. I start my xbox 360 to play halo 3, but it won't connect to live so of course I thought uh oh.

I check that everything is in place as it should be and indeed it is, I try to connect again but nothing. At that time, I thought for sure I got banned so I checked my internet connection, checked the error code but my z is still at 0000 - 0000. I found it weird as I couildn't for the life of me connect to live, but then I got an idea, I took the internet cable and with full force shove it up in xbox 360's ass and voila, it connected!

After all this, all I can do is laugh at everyone that got banned as I enjoy my halo 3 and Live.


Firstly, you're a cocky cunt aren't you.

Secondly, this happened to me too. After the bans started, my live wouldnt connect - however i didnt have a code Z. I left it till the following morning and it was working again. Either way, i'm still not banned either.


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PostPosted: Sun, 20th May 2007 14:32    Post subject:
CraweN wrote:
I highly doubt that they are finished with the banning, so enjoy it while it lasts.

Yep, they are rolling out the bans in batches/over time.


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PostPosted: Sun, 20th May 2007 14:46    Post subject:
cares, live sucks anyways! go Singleplayer!
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th May 2007 14:49    Post subject:
FuE- wrote:
cares, live sucks anyways! go Singleplayer!

I agree. The only reason I still like Live is to play coop with my friends. But regular multiplayer sucks, I'd take single player over it anyday.


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PostPosted: Sun, 20th May 2007 14:51    Post subject:
Parallax_ wrote:
FuE- wrote:
cares, live sucks anyways! go Singleplayer!

I agree. The only reason I still like Live is to play coop with my friends. But regular multiplayer sucks, I'd take single player over it anyday.


I used to think like this too, that ii absolutely not needed Live.. but after spending quite some time with new friends i met over Live, i´ve kinda changed my mind.. Live is really awesome with the right company, better than singleplayer in many cases.


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