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Weedo




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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 11:42    Post subject:
WTF it almost looks like SC1!
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 11:49    Post subject:
Weedo wrote:
WTF it almost looks like SC1!
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 12:03    Post subject:
Well that was disappointing...


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cyclonefr




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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 12:12    Post subject:
It seems the heroes introduced in War3, and thus shops, items, creeps, experience and the "micro" aren't back in SC2.

Am I the only one thinking it'd be a step DOWN if they are not including this ? I mean it was genius back then in 2002... I don't want another C&C !


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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 12:15    Post subject:
cyclonefr wrote:
It seems the heroes introduced in War3, and thus shops, items, creeps, experience and the "micro" aren't back in SC2.

Am I the only one thinking it'd be a step DOWN if they are not including this ? I mean it was genius back then in 2002... I don't want another C&C !

Yeah it's a step back, but it looks like Blizz only cares about one thing - satisfying hard core SC fans Koreans. This reminds me of CS:Source very much, updated GFX but everything else pretty much remains the same. Milking the cow.


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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 12:20    Post subject:
Glottis wrote:
cyclonefr wrote:
It seems the heroes introduced in War3, and thus shops, items, creeps, experience and the "micro" aren't back in SC2.

Am I the only one thinking it'd be a step DOWN if they are not including this ? I mean it was genius back then in 2002... I don't want another C&C !

Yeah it's a step back, but it looks like Blizz only cares about one thing - satisfying hard core SC fans Koreans. This reminds me of CS:Source very much, updated GFX but everything else pretty much remains the same. Milking the cow.


But isn't that what people want? OMG blizzard only cares about.. ITS FANS!
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cyclonefr




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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 12:21    Post subject:
I agree but remember War3 was lots of improvements over War2 and not another "CSS". Yep, CSS is crap, I was bored with CS, so CSS wasn't for me. Forgot completely about CS and CSS awhile ago now.

But I think you are right : now Blizzard just wanna satisfy poor koreans so they can comments games in live, which they couldn't that much with War3...

And no new races ? what was Blizzard thinking ? It's the first time i'm disappointed with the announcement of one of their game...
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RainyDay




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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 12:23    Post subject:
lookin' at the screens at gamespot.. i begin to wonder... why they all want to give plastic look to everything now...

anyway SC2 won't be bad i guess... but still Dawn of War FTW (there are rumors that there'll be a second one..) (hmm, some of the new SC2 marine units had great resemblance to terminators Razz)


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cyclonefr




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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 12:23    Post subject:
[sYn] wrote:
Glottis wrote:
cyclonefr wrote:
It seems the heroes introduced in War3, and thus shops, items, creeps, experience and the "micro" aren't back in SC2.

Am I the only one thinking it'd be a step DOWN if they are not including this ? I mean it was genius back then in 2002... I don't want another C&C !

Yeah it's a step back, but it looks like Blizz only cares about one thing - satisfying hard core SC fans Koreans. This reminds me of CS:Source very much, updated GFX but everything else pretty much remains the same. Milking the cow.


But isn't that what people want? OMG blizzard only cares about.. ITS FANS!


I'm a fan of War3 gameplay : do I have to wait for War 4 then ? So we, war3 players are forgotten ? I'm pretty sure i'm not the only one there who wants to have a gameplay similar to war3 and NOT StarCraft, ie C&C, AOE...

Noticed dark templars can now blink... Wow ! that is some micro...
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scanberg_
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 12:46    Post subject:
I'll Buy this one, Have a little faith people, I've never regretted buying a Blizzard game,

None of you have either.


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SilverBlue




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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 12:57    Post subject:
Weedo wrote:
WTF it almost looks like SC1!


Indeed. I bet the Koreans are going nuts right about now. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 13:02    Post subject:
starcraft mmorpg is coming
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cyclonefr




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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 13:09    Post subject:
scanberg_ wrote:
I'll Buy this one, Have a little faith people, I've never regretted buying a Blizzard game,

None of you have either.


True, but don't forget the team behind SC/Warcraft has quite changed since 2002.

And I am not speaking of the team behind Diablo (Blizzard North) who hasn't anyone left Wink
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Surray




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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 13:12    Post subject:
the graphics may not be impressive, but they are not important...
Did Starcraft have great graphics? nope
Did World of Warcraft have great graphics? nope
Did Diablo 2 have great graphics? nope

they were all good but not great and still, they are all great games (if you like the genre)
Starcraft 2 will also be a great game, because all blizzard gamess ever created were extremely successful.


And it's also great that this isn't gonna be a micro-fest ala warcraft 3. There will be a warcraft 4 in a few years for sure and it will satisfy the warcraft 3 fans for sure, but for now it's time for the starcraft fans to get what they want, and that is not heroes, micro or creeping...


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swebarb




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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 13:14    Post subject:
Its all about gameplay Smile
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 13:58    Post subject:
Surray wrote:
the graphics may not be impressive, but they are not important...
Did Starcraft have great graphics? nope
Did World of Warcraft have great graphics? nope
Did Diablo 2 have great graphics? nope


Yeap...they all had great graphics for they're time. My main problem with Starcraft 2 is that it looks, at it's current stage, like Warcraft 3 mode. If you look closely u can see that it uses the same God damn engine.
Either Blizzard is lacking talented programmers or this is a pre pre pre alpha stage. I loved Warcraft 3 at the time of it's release but come on Blizzard can't u come up with a new up to date engine. Even a 2D polished one would do better than this.
And let's not forget that Starcraft is still one of the best played games. Hope they at least try to make it look different and not bombard us with impressive CGI made cutscenes. They should spend that time improving the core feel and look of the game.
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Macknu




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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 14:03    Post subject:
Predator_Soul wrote:
Surray wrote:
the graphics may not be impressive, but they are not important...
Did Starcraft have great graphics? nope
Did World of Warcraft have great graphics? nope
Did Diablo 2 have great graphics? nope


Yeap...they all had great graphics for they're time. My main problem with Starcraft 2 is that it looks, at it's current stage, like Warcraft 3 mode. If you look closely u can see that it uses the same God damn engine.
Either Blizzard is lacking talented programmers or this is a pre pre pre alpha stage. I loved Warcraft 3 at the time of it's release but come on Blizzard can't u come up with a new up to date engine. Even a 2D polished one would do better than this.
And let's not forget that Starcraft is still one of the best played games. Hope they at least try to make it look different and not bombard us with impressive CGI made cutscenes. They should spend that time improving the core feel and look of the game.


WoW never had any great grafics, not even when it was realesed.
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kalato




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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 14:19    Post subject:
Haha i watched the CGI Announcement and the japs were going crazy


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cyclonefr




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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 14:29    Post subject:
Some gameplay vids for you, which I have to say changed my mind about this game : it gonna rock Smile Heard it is in development since 2003, so I don't think the game will be out in 20302302 years. 4 years is enough for a Blizz game.

Anyway, look :

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Tutukun




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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 14:37    Post subject:
kalato wrote:
Haha i watched the CGI Announcement and the japs were going crazy

japs?
the annoucement was in Korea

Anyway, How the hell did they keep a game as big as SC2 a secret for 4 years?
They must had killed couple employees to set some examples
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 15:34    Post subject:
Tutukun wrote:

Anyway, How the hell did they keep a game as big as SC2 a secret for 4 years?
They must had killed couple employees to set some examples


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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 15:36    Post subject:
Battlecruisers get pwned by Mothership's blackhole
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 15:51    Post subject:
Seriously, this is EXACTLY how a good starcraft mod for Warcraft 3 would look. This is not what I expected for Starcraft 2. Also, what's up with all the Korean bullshit ?

This is so disappointing, I truly hope (never thought I'd say this) that Blizzard delay and delay and delay this POS until they turn it into the impressive epic suitable for this great franchise. This Starcrap 2 is like a humourless hoax ...
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Malveous




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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 16:27    Post subject:
It will be a very good game.

RainyDay, there is indeed a new Dawn of War in production as well as a Company of Heroes sequel.


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Leishar




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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 16:41    Post subject:
Well Blizzard never failed to deliver. Even with WoW, we have to admit it.

My oh my that gameplay trailer, just watching those dozens of Zergs brings back alot of nostalgia.

I'm sure the game will be great!!
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fizzy69




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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 16:42    Post subject:
the graphics do look rather cartoonish
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cyclonefr




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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 16:59    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
Seriously, this is EXACTLY how a good starcraft mod for Warcraft 3 would look. This is not what I expected for Starcraft 2. Also, what's up with all the Korean bullshit ?

This is so disappointing, I truly hope (never thought I'd say this) that Blizzard delay and delay and delay this POS until they turn it into the impressive epic suitable for this great franchise. This Starcrap 2 is like a humourless hoax ...


Have you looked at the gameplay vids I posted ? This isn't a POS, lots of NEW things you can't find in any game atm are in. Blizzard have great ideas we don't !

This looks like another success IMO. They manage to bring new cool things into the RTS type which is pretty hard considering how old this type is.
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 18:09    Post subject:
Weedo wrote:
WTF it almost looks like SC1!
Your right!


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Surray




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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 18:16    Post subject:
If you think the graphics suck, or the game sucks, or blizzard sucks, then tough luck.
This is starcraft 2, live with it.


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PostPosted: Sat, 19th May 2007 18:37    Post subject:
looks the same like C&C3 , so looks like 2007 is the year of REMAKES


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