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Mr_Sora
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| lnatan25 wrote: | About the dudes complaining about Vista being heavy on the memory, read, learn and STFU!
| Quote: | SuperFetch is a new technology that speeds up the loading of commonly-used files and programs by pre-loading them into memory.
The intent is to improve performance in situations where running an anti-virus scan or back-up utility would result in otherwise recently-used information being paged out to disk, or disposed from in-memory caches, resulting in lengthy delays when a user comes back to their computer after a period of non-use.
While the necessary files by default are loaded into main memory, Windows Vista has the ability to instead use alternate storage methods, such as USB flash drives, which, though not as fast as RAM, often can be significantly faster than a hard disk drive; thereby freeing up main memory.
SuperFetch also keeps track of what times of day that applications are used, which allows it to intelligently pre-load information that is expected to be used in the near future.
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What it does is actually keep the most used programs in memory, so "fetching" them would be much much faster. So Vista takes some of the unused RAM and puts that data there. The good thing about SuperFetch is the memory is freed when needed. If you have 1GB ram, and need 768Mb of it for an app, Vista will free (not it in page file). The even better thing about SuperFetch is it make the system much faster and responsive.
Another thing you can notice is Vista tries to limit its memory usage (real usage + SuperFetch) to 1/2 or less the RAM avaible on the system.
When you open task manager, the figure you see is the real usage + SuperFetch. Vista will shrink when you need the RAM.
Now, ask why the hell would it take so much more memory. Why not? Do you have those sticks of RAM for the beauty of it? If the memory can be put to good use to make the system much faster, why not use it?
More on SuperFetch: http://channel9.msdn.com/showpost.aspx?postid=242429 |
thanks for enlightening us ...  |
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 19:06 Post subject: |
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| Mr_Sora wrote: | | lnatan25 wrote: | About the dudes complaining about Vista being heavy on the memory, read, learn and STFU!
| Quote: | SuperFetch is a new technology that speeds up the loading of commonly-used files and programs by pre-loading them into memory.
The intent is to improve performance in situations where running an anti-virus scan or back-up utility would result in otherwise recently-used information being paged out to disk, or disposed from in-memory caches, resulting in lengthy delays when a user comes back to their computer after a period of non-use.
While the necessary files by default are loaded into main memory, Windows Vista has the ability to instead use alternate storage methods, such as USB flash drives, which, though not as fast as RAM, often can be significantly faster than a hard disk drive; thereby freeing up main memory.
SuperFetch also keeps track of what times of day that applications are used, which allows it to intelligently pre-load information that is expected to be used in the near future.
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What it does is actually keep the most used programs in memory, so "fetching" them would be much much faster. So Vista takes some of the unused RAM and puts that data there. The good thing about SuperFetch is the memory is freed when needed. If you have 1GB ram, and need 768Mb of it for an app, Vista will free (not it in page file). The even better thing about SuperFetch is it make the system much faster and responsive.
Another thing you can notice is Vista tries to limit its memory usage (real usage + SuperFetch) to 1/2 or less the RAM avaible on the system.
When you open task manager, the figure you see is the real usage + SuperFetch. Vista will shrink when you need the RAM.
Now, ask why the hell would it take so much more memory. Why not? Do you have those sticks of RAM for the beauty of it? If the memory can be put to good use to make the system much faster, why not use it?
More on SuperFetch: http://channel9.msdn.com/showpost.aspx?postid=242429 |
thanks for enlightening us ... |
I already said that, people should read before complaining indeed
PC: Yes. Console: No.
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 19:32 Post subject: |
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| lnatan25 wrote: | About the dudes complaining about Vista being heavy on the memory, read, learn and STFU!
| Quote: | SuperFetch is a new technology that speeds up the loading of commonly-used files and programs by pre-loading them into memory.
The intent is to improve performance in situations where running an anti-virus scan or back-up utility would result in otherwise recently-used information being paged out to disk, or disposed from in-memory caches, resulting in lengthy delays when a user comes back to their computer after a period of non-use.
While the necessary files by default are loaded into main memory, Windows Vista has the ability to instead use alternate storage methods, such as USB flash drives, which, though not as fast as RAM, often can be significantly faster than a hard disk drive; thereby freeing up main memory.
SuperFetch also keeps track of what times of day that applications are used, which allows it to intelligently pre-load information that is expected to be used in the near future.
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What it does is actually keep the most used programs in memory, so "fetching" them would be much much faster. So Vista takes some of the unused RAM and puts that data there. The good thing about SuperFetch is the memory is freed when needed. If you have 1GB ram, and need 768Mb of it for an app, Vista will free (not it in page file). The even better thing about SuperFetch is it make the system much faster and responsive.
Another thing you can notice is Vista tries to limit its memory usage (real usage + SuperFetch) to 1/2 or less the RAM avaible on the system.
When you open task manager, the figure you see is the real usage + SuperFetch. Vista will shrink when you need the RAM.
Now, ask why the hell would it take so much more memory. Why not? Do you have those sticks of RAM for the beauty of it? If the memory can be put to good use to make the system much faster, why not use it?
More on SuperFetch: http://channel9.msdn.com/showpost.aspx?postid=242429 |
... Yeah an old technology that linux (not exactly the same but a similair thing) has been using for quite some time now... -_-
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 19:44 Post subject: |
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| olger901 wrote: | | lnatan25 wrote: | About the dudes complaining about Vista being heavy on the memory, read, learn and STFU!
| Quote: | SuperFetch is a new technology that speeds up the loading of commonly-used files and programs by pre-loading them into memory.
The intent is to improve performance in situations where running an anti-virus scan or back-up utility would result in otherwise recently-used information being paged out to disk, or disposed from in-memory caches, resulting in lengthy delays when a user comes back to their computer after a period of non-use.
While the necessary files by default are loaded into main memory, Windows Vista has the ability to instead use alternate storage methods, such as USB flash drives, which, though not as fast as RAM, often can be significantly faster than a hard disk drive; thereby freeing up main memory.
SuperFetch also keeps track of what times of day that applications are used, which allows it to intelligently pre-load information that is expected to be used in the near future.
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What it does is actually keep the most used programs in memory, so "fetching" them would be much much faster. So Vista takes some of the unused RAM and puts that data there. The good thing about SuperFetch is the memory is freed when needed. If you have 1GB ram, and need 768Mb of it for an app, Vista will free (not it in page file). The even better thing about SuperFetch is it make the system much faster and responsive.
Another thing you can notice is Vista tries to limit its memory usage (real usage + SuperFetch) to 1/2 or less the RAM avaible on the system.
When you open task manager, the figure you see is the real usage + SuperFetch. Vista will shrink when you need the RAM.
Now, ask why the hell would it take so much more memory. Why not? Do you have those sticks of RAM for the beauty of it? If the memory can be put to good use to make the system much faster, why not use it?
More on SuperFetch: http://channel9.msdn.com/showpost.aspx?postid=242429 |
... Yeah an old technology that linux (not exactly the same but a similair thing) has been using for quite some time now... -_- |
linux who cares???? sftu this topic is about windows vista nothing else
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Parallax_
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 21:14 Post subject: |
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| Benneland wrote: | The secrets is that DX 9.0L will simulair like DX 10 for Win XP, only some little features will not there...
Not every one had a new PC whom been ready for Vista......  |
Read the posts on the previous page. |
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 21:58 Post subject: |
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OOOK.. i don't get it:
i just installed the billgates version and checked dxdiag - it says dx10 so i tried to run a few games i had and all of them gave me a dx related problem, exept for just cause (and i could swear that it runs much better on vista for some reason). now i installed the directx that comes with SCDA and all of a sudden i can run any game i want.
what i don't get is how am i able to have 2 different dx versions at once and why do we need this 9.0L if we could just use the old 9.0c?
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 22:02 Post subject: |
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ok so how could i make my 5.1 speakrs to work ? i have integrated music card , abit nf 72.0 , chipset : nforce 2 , and i dunno how to turn on all my speakers
and what codecs should i install ?
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 22:36 Post subject: |
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| s-b-l wrote: | | ok so how could i make my 5.1 speakrs to work ? i have integrated music card , abit nf 72.0 , chipset : nforce 2 , and i dunno how to turn on all my speakers and what codecs should i install ? |
You mean on Vista? maybe you need to reinstall your integrated soundcard
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 23:05 Post subject: |
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| s-b-l wrote: | | Tutukun wrote: | | s-b-l wrote: | | ok so how could i make my 5.1 speakrs to work ? i have integrated music card , abit nf 72.0 , chipset : nforce 2 , and i dunno how to turn on all my speakers and what codecs should i install ? |
You mean on Vista? maybe you need to reinstall your integrated soundcard |
yes on vista , i can't chose 5.1 i have only stereo , but all my speakers are connected as in xp  |
Had the same problem, tried the drivers i use in xp but i could only get stereo sound. My sound card is onboard soundmax and vista installed ac'97 drivers by default. So i installed realtek ac'97 vista beta drivers. I got 5.1 in sound options but with channel problems. Muting all input lines solved the problem with one glitch. Front and rear speakers were swapped so i changed their jack locations and it works great now.
Ah, btw, when i watch an ac3 movie with 5.1 sound, everything works fine except muting sound only mutes the front speakers 
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 23:07 Post subject: |
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| olger901 wrote: | | lnatan25 wrote: | About the dudes complaining about Vista being heavy on the memory, read, learn and STFU!
| Quote: | SuperFetch is a new technology that speeds up the loading of commonly-used files and programs by pre-loading them into memory.
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What it does is actually keep the most used programs in memory, so "fetching" them would be much much faster.
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... Yeah an old technology that linux (not exactly the same but a similair thing) has been using for quite some time now... -_- |
and in windows xp (and previious versions).
it is called prefetch.
take a look at %windir%\prefetch dir in every single xp insallation.
superfetch is prefetch on steroids.
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 23:15 Post subject: |
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but what's about codeck ? anyone have good codeck pack for vista ? sld codec pack 2.2 doesn';t work 
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 23:31 Post subject: |
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VLC!!!! Read the signature.. you bad bad man.
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vna
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 23:34 Post subject: |
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| s-b-l wrote: | | but what's about codeck ? anyone have good codeck pack for vista ? sld codec pack 2.2 doesn';t work |
FFdshow works just fine.
btw WMP 11 looks good, not like the old crappy ones, I'll stick with mplayerc though.
The real problems are drivers with Vista. Creatives drivers (Audigy 2 ZS) suck big time, they made crap out of my first install in no time (Bluescreens, even one Redscreen ).
I've to use my integrated Realtek AC'97 which works 100%, I thought Creative and such companies care more then Realtek and the likes cause they have less costumers, cause even if you don't want to you have to buy a C-media or Realtek or similar chip with your mobo but no.
Nero 7.5.1.1 lite, WinRar, Winamp 5.2, Office 2007, Total Commander 6.55, Daemon tools work fine.
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 23:34 Post subject: |
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Goddammit, when I installed VISTA on a separate partition, it made it so I can no longer boot my XP-partition.
FFS!
I also think fisk should be unbanned.
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Parallax_
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 23:39 Post subject: |
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| vna wrote: | | Creatives drivers (Audigy 2 ZS) suck big time, they made crap out of my first install in no time (Bluescreens, even one Redscreen ). |
Ouch, bad news as I have the same soundcard. Creative driver support has always sucked, though. I'll wait until next year to change to Vista for now. |
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Mr_Sora
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 23:43 Post subject: |
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| dominae wrote: | Goddammit, when I installed VISTA on a separate partition, it made it so I can no longer boot my XP-partition.
FFS! |
how so? it formatted the entire HD? |
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Parallax_
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 23:48 Post subject: |
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| dominae wrote: | | Goddammit, when I installed VISTA on a separate partition, it made it so I can no longer boot my XP-partition. |
Just edit boot.ini. |
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Nov 2006 00:06 Post subject: |
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Control panel -> sound -> select device and click configure.
I have "Stereo", "Quadrophonic" and "5.1 Surround" options there.
where can i find thos 5.1 options ?
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Nov 2006 01:21 Post subject: |
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| liansk wrote: | OOOK.. i don't get it:
i just installed the billgates version and checked dxdiag - it says dx10 so i tried to run a few games i had and all of them gave me a dx related problem, exept for just cause (and i could swear that it runs much better on vista for some reason). now i installed the directx that comes with SCDA and all of a sudden i can run any game i want.
what i don't get is how am i able to have 2 different dx versions at once and why do we need this 9.0L if we could just use the old 9.0c? |
excuse for the nub question... "SCDA" stands for?
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Nov 2006 03:59 Post subject: |
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| Parallax_ wrote: | | dominae wrote: | | Goddammit, when I installed VISTA on a separate partition, it made it so I can no longer boot my XP-partition. |
Just edit boot.ini. |
VISTA doesn't utilize any BOOT.INI, that's XP.
The problem is that VISTA threw the drive-letters around, and switched active device.
Took me the whole damn night to figure that out.
Now finally XP is working again, and I'm removing VISTA as of now.
The driver-support just fucking sucks.
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Nov 2006 04:13 Post subject: |
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had the same problem dominae. How'd you fix yours if I may ask? (i'm sure others here may be having a similar problem)
fear the led zeppelin that was!
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Nov 2006 07:56 Post subject: |
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| dominae wrote: | | Parallax_ wrote: | | dominae wrote: | | Goddammit, when I installed VISTA on a separate partition, it made it so I can no longer boot my XP-partition. |
Just edit boot.ini. |
VISTA doesn't utilize any BOOT.INI, that's XP.
The problem is that VISTA threw the drive-letters around, and switched active device.
Took me the whole damn night to figure that out.
Now finally XP is working again, and I'm removing VISTA as of now.
The driver-support just fucking sucks. |
When booting, Windows doesn't care about drive letters. It cares about HD and Partition numbers, which aren't moddable. Use VistaBootPro to edit the Vista boot manager to read the old Boot.ini and then edit Boot.ini to point to XP. |
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Nov 2006 11:05 Post subject: |
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from you experiences should i upgrade asap or should i stick to xp ?
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