Medieval 2: Total War
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Baleur




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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Nov 2006 07:43    Post subject:
I know. I bet this game will be great tough.
But i think its redicolus that people whine about how "super-great" a game was, like Total War, but when talking to them they pretty much ONLY played the game with mods.
That isnt a great game, thats a great set of mods.
I just mean that sure the Total War games were really good, but when people whine on and on about how supergreat they were, they usually only played them with mods.
Thats the mods that are great, not the game itself


A good example is NWN2, everyone was expecting something super-amazing, i for one think it is a great game, but thats all it is.
And people even dare to claim that its worse than NWN. But the thing is that they compare NWN2 to NWN+mods+modules+persistant worlds. And almost everytime they talk about how great NWN was they mean mods and modules, NOT the game itself!
I just think its a bit funny, the thing ppl praise in a game is the mods, then when the sequel comes they bash it to death, for not containing any mods from the start lol.


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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Nov 2006 07:47    Post subject:
Personally i actually played the original campaign about 10-12 times before I even tried with the RTR mod. I actually never occurred to me that there could be mods for it, found RTR in a forum and tried it out. Sure RTR is good but to tell you the truth i never really complained about the orig RTW.


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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Nov 2006 08:39    Post subject:
Well, it seems modding is out (unless CA releases some modding tools) because all the scripts and text files are packed in *.pack file archives, just like the demo. Which means you can't get to them, and thus not mod anything!!! Mad Mad


It was confirmed by a guy on one of the forums (can't remember which one) who already has his game. He even posted a screen of the file tree to prove it. So no mods for us! Mad
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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Nov 2006 09:00    Post subject:
MTW was the only game in the series I skipped totally. I just couldnt endear myself to the theme.
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Baleur




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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Nov 2006 10:17    Post subject:
lol dont worry it will be moddable im sure. So what if its in .pack files??
Its not like pack files have stopped other games from being modded (such as every single game with the quake or doom engine)
Very few games have their files just loose in the folder tree.


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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Nov 2006 10:49    Post subject:
Serben wrote:
Well, it seems modding is out (unless CA releases some modding tools) because all the scripts and text files are packed in *.pack file archives, just like the demo. Which means you can't get to them, and thus not mod anything!!! Mad Mad


It was confirmed by a guy on one of the forums (can't remember which one) who already has his game. He even posted a screen of the file tree to prove it. So no mods for us! Mad


what r u on bout.. that makes no sense Razz

thats like saying u cant open a zip file lol
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Surray




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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Nov 2006 11:32    Post subject:
all total war games so far were moddable, medieval 2 is using an enhanced rome engine so it'll be at least as modable as rome.

and there were even small mods for the demo already, modifying armor and weapon setups of soldiers and stuff like that.


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Praetori




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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Nov 2006 11:36    Post subject:
Lots of people already have it, so it should be out soon.

Let's hope.
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Serben
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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Nov 2006 12:08    Post subject:
-=Cartoon=- wrote:


what r u on bout.. that makes no sense Razz

thats like saying u cant open a zip file lol


Baleur wrote:
lol dont worry it will be moddable im sure. So what if its in .pack files??
Its not like pack files have stopped other games from being modded (such as every single game with the quake or doom engine)
Very few games have their files just loose in the folder tree.



You don't get it. These are not the same files as the *.pak files of doom and quake, these are custom archives made by CA, and they require custom decompression tools to extract. Either the community will have to make extracting tools themselves, or CA will have to release some modding tools. Either way, it will probably be weeks before anyone can start to mod it.
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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Nov 2006 12:28    Post subject:
Well, CA left the community hanging regarding modding tools for RTW, so I doubt we'll be seeing anything useful from them this time.
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Baleur




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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Nov 2006 12:42    Post subject:
i do get it, alot of games use custom archives. its not the end of the world, it just means that ppl cant start modding from day 1, will take a few weeks.


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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Nov 2006 12:45    Post subject:
ROFL, they said that the A.I. would be more strategical in this game, but the computer is still attacking cities without having enough support to take the stone walls down.

So some rounds of combat can still be waited out. =/
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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Nov 2006 12:50    Post subject:
now release date in europe is 10 novembre !
one week before the first date !
good news
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JediBob




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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Nov 2006 12:53    Post subject:
dominae wrote:
ROFL, they said that the A.I. would be more strategical in this game, but the computer is still attacking cities without having enough support to take the stone walls down.

So some rounds of combat can still be waited out. =/


Yeah, the AI still leaves much to be desired. The Danish AI evacuated a fully stacked army from Oslo to attack my tiny mercenary army, even though 3 full stacks of my armies were standing practically right next to the city. Great decision there.

Now Oslo is German. Muahahhaha.
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ginge51
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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Nov 2006 13:06    Post subject:
just ordered this from play.com hopefully itll be here tommorrow Smile
any1 else ordered and got it from play.com yet?
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Areius




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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Nov 2006 13:14    Post subject:
[PRE/GAMES] » [MEDIEVAL.2.TOTAL.WAR.GERMAN.CLONE-POSTMORTEM] » [130F/6019MB] » [10mins 4secs / 07.11.2006] » [1.6s]


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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Nov 2006 13:18    Post subject:
FnF wrote:
[PRE/GAMES] » [MEDIEVAL.2.TOTAL.WAR.GERMAN.CLONE-POSTMORTEM] » [130F/6019MB] » [10mins 4secs / 07.11.2006] » [1.6s]


bah german Sad
wheres that info from?
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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Nov 2006 13:22    Post subject:
FnF wrote:
[PRE/GAMES] » [MEDIEVAL.2.TOTAL.WAR.GERMAN.CLONE-POSTMORTEM] » [130F/6019MB] » [10mins 4secs / 07.11.2006] » [1.6s]


Dammit now a days most of the releases come first in german Sad GERMANY is taken over the world Exclamation Arrow lets hope NOT Twisted Evil
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rawghi




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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Nov 2006 14:33    Post subject:
So this release is only in german language? not english right?
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Bart1983




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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Nov 2006 14:41    Post subject:
rawghi wrote:
So this release is only in german language? not english right?


The NFO is a little bit strange:

Language: GER/ENG???

So they have got the game and they have released it but they don't know if it supports the english language Confused

Maybe they want to release the game a the fast possible speed so they did not have the time to install the game and test it Confused
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rawghi




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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Nov 2006 14:53    Post subject:
Excuse me Bart 1983 but where you find that NFO?
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Areius




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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Nov 2006 14:57    Post subject:
Bart1983 wrote:
rawghi wrote:
So this release is only in german language? not english right?


The NFO is a little bit strange:

Language: GER/ENG???

So they have got the game and they have released it but they don't know if it supports the english language Confused

Maybe they want to release the game a the fast possible speed so they did not have the time to install the game and test it Confused

Read the NFO better Bart:
WENN IHR DIE ENGLISCHE VERSION ANBIETET IN DER INSTALLATION, DANN SOLLTE DIE ENGLISCHE INSTALLATION AUCH ENGLISH SEIN, UND NICHT DEUTSCH


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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Nov 2006 14:57    Post subject:
rawghi wrote:
Excuse me Bart 1983 but where you find that NFO?


This is not the only nfo site Smile there are german versions too


shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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Areius




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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Nov 2006 15:00    Post subject:
Medieval.2.Total.War.GERMAN-JiNi


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Bart1983




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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Nov 2006 15:01    Post subject:
rawghi wrote:
Excuse me Bart 1983 but where you find that NFO?


If i tell you that i probably get busted by the FBI, they are watching me all the time you know.

But here is a website were you can watch it

http://www.xrel.to/
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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Nov 2006 15:02    Post subject:
FnF wrote:
Bart1983 wrote:
rawghi wrote:
So this release is only in german language? not english right?


The NFO is a little bit strange:

Language: GER/ENG???

So they have got the game and they have released it but they don't know if it supports the english language Confused

Maybe they want to release the game a the fast possible speed so they did not have the time to install the game and test it Confused

Read the NFO better Bart:
WENN IHR DIE ENGLISCHE VERSION ANBIETET IN DER INSTALLATION, DANN SOLLTE DIE ENGLISCHE INSTALLATION AUCH ENGLISH SEIN, UND NICHT DEUTSCH


Yes please, don't translate.

This is the shitty answer I get from Babelfish.

Quote:
IF YOU OFFER THE ENGLISH TO VERSION IN THE INSTALLATION, THEN THE ENGLISH INSTALLATION SHOULD BE ALSO ENGLISH, AND NOT GERMAN
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Areius




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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Nov 2006 15:04    Post subject:
Bart1983 wrote:
rawghi wrote:
Excuse me Bart 1983 but where you find that NFO?


If i tell you that i probably get busted by the FBI, they are watching me all the time you know.

But here is a website were you can watch it

http://www.xrel.to/

You made me laugh, the FBI Very Happy


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Reg67




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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Nov 2006 15:05    Post subject:
Bart1983 wrote:
rawghi wrote:
Excuse me Bart 1983 but where you find that NFO?


If i tell you that i probably get busted by the FBI, they are watching me all the time you know.

But here is a website were you can watch it

http://www.xrel.to/


Laughing I doubt it mate, you live in the netherlands.. despite what the FBI or any other American agency thinks - they have no powers beyond the U.S

Maybe its just a pizza van outside your house? Very Happy
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Bart1983




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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Nov 2006 15:07    Post subject:
FnF wrote:
Bart1983 wrote:
rawghi wrote:
So this release is only in german language? not english right?


The NFO is a little bit strange:

Language: GER/ENG???

So they have got the game and they have released it but they don't know if it supports the english language Confused

Maybe they want to release the game a the fast possible speed so they did not have the time to install the game and test it Confused

Read the NFO better Bart:
WENN IHR DIE ENGLISCHE VERSION ANBIETET IN DER INSTALLATION, DANN SOLLTE DIE ENGLISCHE INSTALLATION AUCH ENGLISH SEIN, UND NICHT DEUTSCH


Lol did not read that part Wink But it seems that english is also suported Very Happy
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Bart1983




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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Nov 2006 15:11    Post subject:
Reg67 wrote:
Bart1983 wrote:
rawghi wrote:
Excuse me Bart 1983 but where you find that NFO?


If i tell you that i probably get busted by the FBI, they are watching me all the time you know.

But here is a website were you can watch it

http://www.xrel.to/


Laughing I doubt it mate, you live in the netherlands.. despite what the FBI or any other American agency thinks - they have no powers beyond the U.S

Maybe its just a pizza van outside your house? Very Happy


Wrong i live in a town called "Nederland" the english word is Netherlands Look at our website of my town:

http://www.town.nederland.co.us/index.php/ Very Happy
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