Gothic III
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Baleur




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 14:12    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
Don't know if that can be fixed but I'll see what I can do, but there's quite a few options in the INI wich controls view distance, culling distance, level of detail, vegetation, depth of field, cell distance and rendering.

Guess one will have to increase them all to see how it works.

ObjectDetails.
DistanceHigh.
DistanceLow.
Render.
Camera.

VegetationAdmin.
Entity.ROI


Those should be all settings that affect view distance and quality of far distance objects.

Quote:

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/2784/g3rg8.jpg


For that screenshot I TRIPPLED (+300%) all those settings and water still looks ugly.
(Foggy day btw or end of rendering distance, should see further, may have increased other settings as well)

The only setting I did not change was this one:
Render.PrefetchGridCellSize=10000
(Ran out of memory during game load with that one doubled)

EDIT: Or perhaps editing water directly?
(The "GothicIII\Data\Materials\ShaderMaterial\Effects" folder )


Yeah ive tried alot of that myself, the Render.PrefetchGridCellSize option actually gives you more detailed terrain at long distances, it should be set to whatever the DistanceHigh thing is set to.
Can be most noticable if you stand near the beach outside the rebel hideout and look at the n00bcities lighthouse, its cliff will become invisible along with the water if you got the detail distance ini-tweaked, but fixed with an identical PrefetchGridCellSize setting.
Unfortunatly the water isnt fixed as well Sad

Oh well, playing it on the standard highest settings now (including the speed tree and mem fixes of course plus changed the DoF to start at 5000).
Man this is one fun game Smile Just found the rebel dude in Cape Dun, and i just slaughtered him, and i got a new quest suceeded! Waz amazed, in most games things just fuck upp if you kill an important dude.
Then i slaughtered the entire Reddock camp Very Happy So damn cool that you can do stuff like that and get quest rewards for it!!


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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 14:40    Post subject:
The rewards should be from future quests but the game still shows them as completed even if you don't know about those quests yet.
(Complete quests before even starting them. )

Now you just need to find the people who should have given you those quests normally to get your reward.
(Easily done by checking the reputation/faction points you gain)
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Unauthorized




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 14:47    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
The rewards should be from future quests but the game still shows them as completed even if you don't know about those quests yet.
(Complete quests before even starting them. )

Now you just need to find the people who should have given you those quests normally to get your reward.
(Easily done by checking the reputation/faction points you gain)


haha, yeah thats really amazing. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 14:50    Post subject:
"including the speed tree and mem fixes"
where are these fixes please?


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 15:04    Post subject:
the loading time is just killing me Sad, does someone knows any tweaks for shorten them ? Crying or Very sad


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pumbertot1




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 15:43    Post subject:
RainyDay wrote:
the loading time is just killing me Sad, does someone knows any tweaks for shorten them ? Crying or Very sad


yep buy more ram. Laughing
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Baleur




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 16:10    Post subject:
BloodAngel wrote:
"including the speed tree and mem fixes"
where are these fixes please?


Change to these settings in the ge3.ini file.

Cache.SizeImage=256000000
ResourceCache.u32SpeedTreeMaxMemUsage_High=1000000


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BloodAngel




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 16:25    Post subject:
Baleur wrote:
BloodAngel wrote:
"including the speed tree and mem fixes"
where are these fixes please?


Change to these settings in the ge3.ini file.

Cache.SizeImage=256000000
ResourceCache.u32SpeedTreeMaxMemUsage_High=1000000


Thanks Baleur. Does this make a difference?
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Predator_Soul




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 16:47    Post subject:
pumbertot1 wrote:
RainyDay wrote:
the loading time is just killing me Sad, does someone knows any tweaks for shorten them ? Crying or Very sad


yep buy more ram. Laughing


Or you wait until the game gets a decent amount of updating...that's what I'm doing.
With the bugs the game has it's unplayable on my system.
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 17:03    Post subject:
Now thats what I call unoptimized game. We have the winner!!!
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Baleur




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 18:15    Post subject:
BloodAngel wrote:
Baleur wrote:
BloodAngel wrote:
"including the speed tree and mem fixes"
where are these fixes please?


Change to these settings in the ge3.ini file.

Cache.SizeImage=256000000
ResourceCache.u32SpeedTreeMaxMemUsage_High=1000000


Thanks Baleur. Does this make a difference?


Just like 15-20 fps more Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 18:22    Post subject:
so done with game eny one know then the expansion is coming?


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 18:24    Post subject:
Expansion....BHA! Don't you think they have enough to do for the next 4-8 month fixing patches for all the bugs?


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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 19:26    Post subject:
CaptainCox wrote:
Expansion....BHA! Don't you think they have enough to do for the next 4-8 month fixing patches for all the bugs?

The expansion is already announced.
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 19:27    Post subject:
Predator_Soul wrote:
pumbertot1 wrote:
RainyDay wrote:
the loading time is just killing me Sad, does someone knows any tweaks for shorten them ? Crying or Very sad


yep buy more ram. Laughing


Or you wait until the game gets a decent amount of updating...that's what I'm doing.
With the bugs the game has it's unplayable on my system.


Same here

Currently it's an unoptimized and unpolished piece of shit.Too bad because it look like the game does have some potential but the numerous bugs and the performence issues are just too annoying for me.

I knew it was going to be buggy before playing it by reading various comments by some posters here but i didn't thought that it would be that bad.
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immylatus




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 19:31    Post subject:
Bugthic 3.

HAHAH BUGTHIC!! because the game is basically one big fucking bug.


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vurt




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 19:31    Post subject:
Played it for a few hours now. Iim really disapointed that they've taken away 3 "key"-features, diving, lockpicking, climbing. Feels rushed like hell, like they only cared that it would look at least as good as Oblivion (but it doesnt imo) so they could at least get some TES fans to buy it. Glad i didnt bought it.
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 19:51    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
CaptainCox wrote:
Expansion....BHA! Don't you think they have enough to do for the next 4-8 month fixing patches for all the bugs?

The expansion is already announced.


Yea I saw that, The Kingdom of Bug Dung i think it will be called.




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KaiserSoze666




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 19:55    Post subject:
It runs smooth for me at high detail, just the white flashing is going to give me a fit if I play anymore
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 20:14    Post subject:
KaiserSoze666 wrote:
It runs smooth for me at high detail, just the white flashing is going to give me a fit if I play anymore

no offence but if u have parkinson desease it could look smooth Rolling Eyes
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Mumblingidiot




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 20:30    Post subject:
Just reinstalled Oblivion to see if I remembered correctly. And I did.

This game looks really shitty compared to oblivion, plus that one little thing that makes this game allmost unplayable. The ffing stuttering and constant hdd accessing.

Tried to put all options on high it still looks shittier than oblivion. Would do a fraps video to compare, but it's impossible. Not on oblivion but in this crappy piece of shit.

If you are considering of buying this game, DON'T! Cancel your orders, if you opened the box try to return it.
This should not be accepted by us, the consumers. Vote against this shit with the only thing that matters to them, with your wallet.
This game is in its beta stage and should not be bought until it's fixed so that it resembles a game.

Warez this game. Burn it to your friends, your enemies, give it free to everybody you know and don't know. Make this an example how not to do a game.

And for those who payed to be a beta tester and enjoy it:
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BaronOfHell




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 20:46    Post subject:
Mumblingidiot wrote:
If you are considering of buying this game, DON'T! Cancel your orders, if you opened the box try to return it.
This should not be accepted by us, the consumers. Vote against this shit with the only thing that matters to them, with your wallet.
Warez this game. Burn it to your friends, your enemies, give it free to everybody you know and don't know. Make this an example how not to do a game.

Strange, thats exactly how I feel about Oblivion . Bethesda fuckin sold us out! Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 22:08    Post subject:
This game deserves to be warez just so Jowood goes out of business! They don't deserve to develop more games after a shit like that. Oblivion wasn't perfect, but compared to this crap, it's HDR rendered gold.
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 22:25    Post subject:
Mumblingidiot wrote:
Just reinstalled Oblivion to see if I remembered correctly. And I did.

This game looks really shitty compared to oblivion, plus that one little thing that makes this game allmost unplayable. The ffing stuttering and constant hdd accessing.

Tried to put all options on high it still looks shittier than oblivion. Would do a fraps video to compare, but it's impossible. Not on oblivion but in this crappy piece of shit.

If you are considering of buying this game, DON'T! Cancel your orders, if you opened the box try to return it.
This should not be accepted by us, the consumers. Vote against this shit with the only thing that matters to them, with your wallet.
This game is in its beta stage and should not be bought until it's fixed so that it resembles a game.

Warez this game. Burn it to your friends, your enemies, give it free to everybody you know and don't know. Make this an example how not to do a game.

And for those who payed to be a beta tester and enjoy it:


Some "look around" videos to compare ;p - dont mind the quality, had to compress Smile

http://www.volny.cz/darklinx/store/Oblivion.avi
http://www.volny.cz/darkshadak/Store/g3.avi
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 22:57    Post subject:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8628243961267701569


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D4rkKnight




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 23:17    Post subject:
KaiserSoze666 wrote:
It runs smooth for me at high detail, just the white flashing is going to give me a fit if I play anymore



Thats my problem too, its horrible on the eyes...performance problems and graphical bugs I can understand, but white flashing when you look in certain directions...wtf were they thinking not fixing that?

Is there really no way to fix this besides waiting for a patch?
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cnZ
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 23:20    Post subject:
at the moment:

HonestGamers - 9/10
Extreme-Players.de - 9.3/10
Eurogamer.de - 9/10
Eurogamer.net - 8/10
Computer and Videogames (PC Zone UK) - 8.5/10
4Players - 68% out of 100 (6.8/10)

average = ~8.4/10

not much reviews out there yet, but not very bad scores that far


yes
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Krest




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 23:36    Post subject:
I wonder what the game wouldve gotten if it didnt have the Gothic name in it. The name alone probably ups the score by 3.


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 23:48    Post subject:
cnZ wrote:
at the moment:

HonestGamers - 9/10
Extreme-Players.de - 9.3/10
Eurogamer.de - 9/10
Eurogamer.net - 8/10
Computer and Videogames (PC Zone UK) - 8.5/10
4Players - 68% out of 100 (6.8/10)

average = ~8.4/10

not much reviews out there yet, but not very bad scores that far


4Players gave it deserved score.
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Oct 2006 23:52    Post subject:
Krest wrote:
I wonder what the game wouldve gotten if it didnt have the Gothic name in it. The name alone probably ups the score by 3.
QFT!!!
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