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tainted4ever
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jun 2006 02:52    Post subject: Help needed for debate
Ok guys, here's my situation:

I have a teacher that hates me.
We are doing a debates unit in English.
I have to defend the NSA wiretaps.
Arguments are virtually non-existant.
I need your help.

Post here any argument or evidence justifying the NSA wiretaps. YourGod, if you're reading this, please find me some quality bullshit Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jun 2006 03:16    Post subject:
well not that I agree with this but the whole point of them is so they can uncover terrorists.

so your main argument could be something like; it's a small sacrifice if it really does protect America from a terrorist threat from within the USA.

You could then maybe go a bit far fetched and then say it offers a piece of mind knowing that they're actively seeking constantly.

Maybe add about it 'slowing down the progress of terrorists because they need to find alternate ways of communication' (weak point I know, but it's still valid because I believe phone calls were made within the US between organizers).


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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jun 2006 03:18    Post subject:
Yeah, I thought of those already and am mentioning them in my debate, however, none of them are actually hard legal evidence that justifies these wiretaps, and that is something I desperatley need.


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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jun 2006 03:23    Post subject:
Well i'm pretty certain there are documents released on telephone calls made from the US between terrorists. This point alone backs up the other two.


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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jun 2006 03:25    Post subject:
Actually, there aren't. The wiretaps have yielded no results so far, and even if they did, they are not availibe to public Sad


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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jun 2006 03:27    Post subject: Re: Help needed for debate
tainted4ever wrote:
YourGod, if you're reading this, please find me some quality bullshit Smile

Could it be ?

Someone is actually asking for Yourgods arguments to use in a class. Im guessing you live inside US...


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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jun 2006 03:29    Post subject: Re: Help needed for debate
fraich3 wrote:
tainted4ever wrote:
YourGod, if you're reading this, please find me some quality bullshit Smile

Could it be ?

Someone is actually asking for Yourgods arguments to use in a class. Im guessing you live inside US...


Yes. And I'm gonna need severe brainwashing bullshit that pierces any type of common sense. YourGod seems to be full of it, so I might as well ask for his sources (I'm just praying its not the bible).
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jun 2006 03:37    Post subject: Re: Help needed for debate
tainted4ever wrote:
fraich3 wrote:
tainted4ever wrote:
YourGod, if you're reading this, please find me some quality bullshit Smile

Could it be ?

Someone is actually asking for Yourgods arguments to use in a class. Im guessing you live inside US...


Yes. And I'm gonna need severe brainwashing bullshit that pierces any type of common sense. YourGod seems to be full of it, so I might as well ask for his sources (I'm just praying its not the bible).

Yourgods your guy Smile


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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jun 2006 03:44    Post subject:
Because "rights" are over-rated! Very Happy Wink


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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jun 2006 11:37    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jun 2006 15:21    Post subject:
Talk about defending a lost cause. You're going to lose. Crying or Very sad

It might however go different but it depends on your opponent and audience. If your opponents have more than two brain cells then you're going to lose. Crying or Very sad

If you're audience is not a bunch of xenophobic, self-righteous nuts then you're going to lose. Crying or Very sad

Try a combination of tactics to hit a broad spectrum of your audience.

1. Scare-mongering (worked wonders for Bush)
2. Patriotic horn blowing
3. Highlight the ineffectiveness of conventional warfare against terrorism.
4. Do a cost comparison (hypothetical ofcourse) between military operation/wiretaps.
5. Maybe close-off with the possibility of the mother of all terrorist attacks - an atomic weapon in the hands of terrorists.
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Jun 2006 00:42    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Jun 2006 18:52    Post subject:
Eric Cartman wrote:

Yes. This is a difficult case. In order to win the debate, we will need to attack Stan and Kyle's credibility (...) That's how you win these things: attack your opponents' credibility! (...) I'm talkin' booby magazines, whatever.


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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Jun 2006 00:32    Post subject:
Heh debate was today. I got an A-, and A- in the class. Now only Spanish left, and I'm so fucked that I'm considering just shoving the textbook up my ass until I choke on it, and end it the easy way Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Jun 2006 01:02    Post subject:
let me guess you used this PIC to explain that we need the Nsa wiretaps
Laughing


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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Jun 2006 02:20    Post subject:
tainted4ever wrote:
Heh debate was today. I got an A-, and A- in the class. Now only Spanish left, and I'm so fucked that I'm considering just shoving the textbook up my ass until I choke on it, and end it the easy way Laughing


A - is not bad at all. Shit what are you going in for?
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Jun 2006 02:45    Post subject:
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Shit what are you going in for?


huh ?


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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Jun 2006 03:50    Post subject:
tainted4ever wrote:
Quote:

Shit what are you going in for?


huh ?


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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Jun 2006 06:53    Post subject:
pistolshrimp wrote:
tainted4ever wrote:
Quote:

Shit what are you going in for?


huh ?


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