Rise of Nations: Rise of Legends.Clone-Unleashed
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boake
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th May 2006 13:00    Post subject:
What happened to the sound effect of this game?
It's almost inaudible.
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th May 2006 13:08    Post subject:
Glottis wrote:
-=Cartoon=- wrote:
im rather mixed bout this game...

it seems like a solid RTS

But its nothing special...

Yes it has, play more campaign Smile


I dont play RTS games for campaign styles.....

Me play it for Lan and Multiplayer games...

I mean dont get me wrong.. its a cool game.. but nothing "omfg amazing" about it
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th May 2006 13:46    Post subject:
-=Cartoon=- wrote:
Glottis wrote:
-=Cartoon=- wrote:
im rather mixed bout this game...

it seems like a solid RTS

But its nothing special...

Yes it has, play more campaign Smile


I dont play RTS games for campaign styles.....

Me play it for Lan and Multiplayer games...

I mean dont get me wrong.. its a cool game.. but nothing "omfg amazing" about it

In my opinion this is the best rts currently out there unless you want to go back and play Total Annihilation, but i've played that for years needed something new with fancier graphics Razz And without orcs elves or any of that crap.
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th May 2006 13:58    Post subject:
well we were lanning TA last night lol.. so maybe thats why Razz
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th May 2006 14:01    Post subject:
Hmm...installed it this morning and started playing the Campaign...a cupple of levels. Its ok, but...well its just that it has this seen that, done that, been there sort a feel to it. I realy do like the angle with the steam tech and the Jules Verne style machines. But is that enough I wonder...


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PostPosted: Sun, 14th May 2006 14:30    Post subject:
CaptainCox wrote:
Hmm...installed it this morning and started playing the Campaign...a cupple of levels. Its ok, but...well its just that it has this seen that, done that, been there sort a feel to it. I realy do like the angle with the steam tech and the Jules Verne style machines. But is that enough I wonder...


You're also the guy who said HOMM V is an RPG Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th May 2006 15:01    Post subject:
HOMM V is...Ok its a round based strategy bla bla bla with some RPG elements thrown in. Actually playing it and enjoing it. And whats that got to do with it ? Rise of Legends is still ok but its just nothing special. An ok RTS nothing more nothing less. What my classification of another game has to do with that is beyond me. HOMM V is still an TBS/RPG if you ask me. And if you'r that ignorant as to hold that against me..."well sodd off Baldric"


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boake
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th May 2006 15:41    Post subject:
This game is worst game of the year.
I really regret wasting my precious 5 mins with this shit.
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th May 2006 15:43    Post subject:
its hard to bring innovation to a genre as mature as RTS. what makes rise of nations series good is the extreme attention on gameplay mechanics, making it one of the best, if not the best balanced RTS around. it shines on MP, and thats what RTS is about!
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th May 2006 15:46    Post subject:
hurley wrote:
its hard to bring innovation to a genre as mature as RTS. what makes rise of nations series good is the extreme attention on gameplay mechanics, making it one of the best, if not the best balanced RTS around. it shines on MP, and thats what RTS is about!


Dont get me wrong.. i LOVE rise of nations (the main one) ..... and play it multiplayer all the time..

But i dunno.. i just dont see doing it with this .. dunno why

It might just grow on me eh...
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th May 2006 15:48    Post subject:
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This game is worst game of the year.
I really regret wasting my precious 5 mins with this shit.


And there's your answer. u only played for 5 mins and u think u can comment on what is the RTS of the year so far hehe.

To form any opinion u have to play any game for more than a hour or so. So i'll disregard your crap review if thats ok Razz

I guess your argument will be, "its got shit gfx so its crap!!" Its all about the gameplay.
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th May 2006 16:05    Post subject:
Sometime I wonder if you guys writing here actualy works as devs for some of the games the way you are so protective against your latest acquisitions.

Take a new car for example, lets take the new LEXUS GS hybrid. I don't like it that much I must say, an average looking car with some new jap technic thrown in. Thats my opinion based on my taste whitch is based upon alot of different parameters whitch I will not go into here. But alot of ppl will like it and buy it. I don't question that, thats thier 40-45.000$.

All I am saying is, every body is entiteld to have an opinion based on their experience. Every game launched WILL not apeal to ALL!, and all games are not made by the best story writers, programmers and CG artists, they can't be. There is only so many realy realy good guys out there, like in every proffession. So we get some good games some not so. And life goes on like it always have. No biggy...realy, or?


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PostPosted: Sun, 14th May 2006 18:44    Post subject:
Jeasus hell, the game looks berserk !
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acantoni
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th May 2006 19:10    Post subject:
Played and beaten the first campaign on normal (moderate) difficulty setting :

Here is my mini review

Scenarios are good and the layout can change (a little) the tactics you use to play the game. i like the world map mode to pick your mission it feels you're planning your campaign
However in the main game the strategy involved is minimal at best, though i'm experienced rts player i had no need to vary my general building strategy (focus on market - steam with 2 city till you reach +700 crystal/minute, then stream build anything you want) .
I didn't noticed any particular reason to build an unit instead of another.. once you get enough resources (5-10 minutes in every scenario) you can just build an average mix of everything and just throw all to the opponent.
At first i organized unit into groups , flanking position with cavalry/air unit..ecc there is just no need.
Select 20 unit or so and attack the nearest city/mine , then regroup and redo till you capture/destroy anything.

At the moment i'm unimpressed by the game.
I'll try the second campaign at hardest difficulty settings and i'll tell you what i find out
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th May 2006 20:05    Post subject:
RTS is a dead genre, i try one every half year, and it is all more of the same. 90 % of rts games are C&C clones (the first one). Nothing has changed on 15 years. I realy don''t understand why al that crap is being made. I only liked the c&c series, starcraft, total annilation, perimiter (way to hard though) and konan, but that one becomes old fast. Bad score for 15 years of rts games.
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th May 2006 20:24    Post subject:
friketje wrote:
RTS is a dead genre, i try one every half year, and it is all more of the same. 90 % of rts games are C&C clones (the first one). Nothing has changed on 15 years. I realy don''t understand why al that crap is being made. I only liked the c&c series, starcraft, total annilation, perimiter (way to hard though) and konan, but that one becomes old fast. Bad score for 15 years of rts games.

Gotta love those universal genre hater comments-templates. Rolling Eyes You can insert any genre and it's games in his comment-template and same end result Smile

"FPS is a dead genre, i try one every half year, and it is all more of the same. 90 % of FPS games are Doom/Quake/Duke clones..." etc etc.
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th May 2006 20:44    Post subject:
friketje wrote:
RTS is a dead genre, i try one every half year, and it is all more of the same. 90 % of rts games are C&C clones (the first one). Nothing has changed on 15 years. I realy don''t understand why al that crap is being made. I only liked the c&c series, starcraft, total annilation, perimiter (way to hard though) and konan, but that one becomes old fast. Bad score for 15 years of rts games.


That's nonsense - 15 years ago, Dune 2 didn't even exist. Only 10 years ago C&C was released and since then a lot has changed:

- 3D maps alter tactics
- heroes
- building powers
- all different kinds of fog of war
- unit stances (defensive, agressive, scouting, etc.)
- building upgrades
- Sidequests
- unit upgrades
- units you can design yourself
etc.

What IS true is that in the past 5 years, things haven't changed much - but saying it barely changed in the past 15 years is silly. What changes now is the story, the setting, map design, mission design, and other things that are more important.

For example I totally LOVED C&C when I played it all over a few months ago - so it's not the game mechanics that make a good game. It's how well the story is carried through, how fun the map design is, etc.

The main problem with RTS games these days is that the maps are designed in such a way that real strategy gets hampered. C&C had very open map design, letting you tackle most maps in dozens of different ways according to your playing style. Most recent RTS want to add a story element inside one mission, and as a result, they have to force you in a linear direction which hurts the fun.
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th May 2006 20:52    Post subject:
Don't get me wrong.
The game is still fun, now played some scenario in the alin campaign...the gameplay is different and here there are lots more units, however even so i still feel you just need to build 3-4 different units and throw them at your enemy to win most battles.

BTW do you like the 'infinite resource' system we have in RoL ?
It's very different from 'average' rts approach and imho can be easily exploited to avoid all form of micromanagement and is one of the worst aspect of the game
(just have lot of resource in and then nastro-build regardless of losses)
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th May 2006 20:56    Post subject:
acantoni wrote:
Don't get me wrong.
The game is still fun, now played some scenario in the alin campaign...the gameplay is different and here there are lots more units, however even so i still feel you just need to build 3-4 different units and throw them at your enemy to win most battles.

BTW do you like the 'infinite resource' system we have in RoL ?
It's very different from 'average' rts approach and imho can be easily exploited to avoid all form of micromanagement and is one of the worst aspect of the game
(just have lot of resource in and then nastro-build regardless of losses)


I have an even better strategy - building fortresses up to the enemie's base, thus making my territory push back theirs, making their health go down and putting guard towers around it.
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th May 2006 00:19    Post subject:
Try playing it against human opponents. Whining about how you can beat the computer by throwing a mass of units at it is pointless.

Oh, red_avatar, if they have researched the right tech that strategy won't work either, which any player who is not a complete noob will do.


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boake
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th May 2006 03:49    Post subject:
This game made me log in again.

Never try this game.
It's just waste of bandwidth and time.
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th May 2006 06:10    Post subject:
boake wrote:
This game made me log in again.

Never try this game.
It's just waste of bandwidth and time.


Made you log in again? what?

Anyway great game, live up to its previous installment (especially on the engine) huge cities, giant armies, big maps and neutral nations on the battlefield makes it quite enjoyable though the AI may lack behind a little...


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PostPosted: Mon, 15th May 2006 07:41    Post subject:
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boake
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th May 2006 08:13    Post subject:
Mutantius wrote:
boake wrote:
This game made me log in again.

Never try this game.
It's just waste of bandwidth and time.


Made you log in again? what?



Think carefully what I mean by that.
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th May 2006 12:28    Post subject:
log in to.......what?
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th May 2006 13:13    Post subject:
boake wrote:
Mutantius wrote:
boake wrote:
This game made me log in again.

Never try this game.
It's just waste of bandwidth and time.


Made you log in again? what?



Think carefully what I mean by that.

Log into the suicide portal you used to visit before?
The game?
Or this forum?
Or your PC
Or www.logmein.com
Or your www.kristian.com account

Damnit, this is hard. Tell us! Very Happy
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boake
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th May 2006 13:30    Post subject:
deelix wrote:
boake wrote:
Mutantius wrote:


Made you log in again? what?



Think carefully what I mean by that.

Log into the suicide portal you used to visit before?
The game?
Or this forum?
Or your PC
Or www.logmein.com
Or your www.kristian.com account

Damnit, this is hard. Tell us! Very Happy


You are at least smarter than those two guys.
(This game made me log into this forum again. for what? because I wanna criticize this piece of shit again and again and again!!!)
Those two guys need to study the discourse, pragmatics, and how to infer the intended meaning from the context!
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th May 2006 13:34    Post subject:
Its not awesome, but an avarage game. Some cool elements, but nothing revolutionary.
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th May 2006 14:05    Post subject:
boake wrote:
deelix wrote:
boake wrote:


Think carefully what I mean by that.

Log into the suicide portal you used to visit before?
The game?
Or this forum?
Or your PC
Or www.logmein.com
Or your www.kristian.com account

Damnit, this is hard. Tell us! Very Happy


You are at least smarter than those two guys.
(This game made me log into this forum again. for what? because I wanna criticize this piece of shit again and again and again!!!)
Those two guys need to study the discourse, pragmatics, and how to infer the intended meaning from the context!


Dude constructive critisizm is always a great thing, though what you delivered was just pure garbage and lacked actual context

[quote]Never try this game.
It's just waste of bandwidth and time.[/quite]

Wow simply brilliant

This is the best RTS game this year ATM (imo), its about taste I quess.


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