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sexyjesus
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th May 2006 21:57    Post subject:
pushf_or_popad wrote:

I hope RLD is a fair group. This great game cracked would mean the insolvency of Developer Spellbound according to E3 News. Also Atari needs the sells of it as publisher as Atari is close to bankruptcy too Sad. The Clone is hurting alot already. Visit Desperados 2 Forums. Developers are already very angry since today clone listed in torrent servers Sad.

RLD/DEV/NOGROUP/Px777 and who ever does games - if your fair leave it uncracked or there wont be a sequel to this anymore on PC.


Obviously, E3 news is worthless to make a statement like that with a straight face. All companies would like more money, Atari included. You have absolutely no facts or figures to back up your claims that the Clone is hurting alot. You post has to be a joke.
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sexyjesus
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th May 2006 21:57    Post subject:
pushf_or_popad wrote:

I hope RLD is a fair group. This great game cracked would mean the insolvency of Developer Spellbound according to E3 News. Also Atari needs the sells of it as publisher as Atari is close to bankruptcy too Sad. The Clone is hurting alot already. Visit Desperados 2 Forums. Developers are already very angry since today clone listed in torrent servers Sad.

RLD/DEV/NOGROUP/Px777 and who ever does games - if your fair leave it uncracked or there wont be a sequel to this anymore on PC.


Obviously, E3 news is worthless to make a statement like that with a straight face. All companies would like more money, Atari included. You have absolutely no facts or figures to back up your claims that the Clone is hurting alot. You post has to be a joke.
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sexyjesus
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th May 2006 21:58    Post subject:
pushf_or_popad wrote:

I hope RLD is a fair group. This great game cracked would mean the insolvency of Developer Spellbound according to E3 News. Also Atari needs the sells of it as publisher as Atari is close to bankruptcy too Sad. The Clone is hurting alot already. Visit Desperados 2 Forums. Developers are already very angry since today clone listed in torrent servers Sad.

RLD/DEV/NOGROUP/Px777 and who ever does games - if your fair leave it uncracked or there wont be a sequel to this anymore on PC.


Obviously, E3 news is worthless to make a statement like that with a straight face. All companies would like more money, Atari included. You have absolutely no facts or figures to back up your claims that the Clone is hurting alot. You post has to be a joke.
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sexyjesus
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th May 2006 22:01    Post subject:
pushf_or_popad wrote:

I hope RLD is a fair group. This great game cracked would mean the insolvency of Developer Spellbound according to E3 News. Also Atari needs the sells of it as publisher as Atari is close to bankruptcy too Sad. The Clone is hurting alot already. Visit Desperados 2 Forums. Developers are already very angry since today clone listed in torrent servers Sad.

RLD/DEV/NOGROUP/Px777 and who ever does games - if your fair leave it uncracked or there wont be a sequel to this anymore on PC.


Obviously, E3 news is worthless to make a statement like that with a straight face. All companies would like more money, Atari included. You have absolutely no facts or figures to back up your claims that the Clone is hurting alot. You post has to be a joke.
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sexyjesus
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th May 2006 22:02    Post subject:
pushf_or_popad wrote:

I hope RLD is a fair group. This great game cracked would mean the insolvency of Developer Spellbound according to E3 News. Also Atari needs the sells of it as publisher as Atari is close to bankruptcy too Sad. The Clone is hurting alot already. Visit Desperados 2 Forums. Developers are already very angry since today clone listed in torrent servers Sad.

RLD/DEV/NOGROUP/Px777 and who ever does games - if your fair leave it uncracked or there wont be a sequel to this anymore on PC.


Obviously, E3 news is worthless to make a statement like that with a straight face. All companies would like more money, Atari included. You have absolutely no facts or figures to back up your claims that the Clone is hurting alot. You post has to be a joke.
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th May 2006 22:13    Post subject:
WTF ???

Am i drunk or do i see 5 times the same thread Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th May 2006 22:15    Post subject:
lol looks like sexyjesus means is serious Laughing


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Glottis
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th May 2006 22:32    Post subject:
So much better than Commandos Strike Force this game is. Also Unleashed release is fine, dunno what PLEX been smoking. Gonna play this after I'm done with Rise of Legends Smile
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th May 2006 22:56    Post subject:
This blows and this is normally my favorite genre on the pc. Sad
The incredible detail that 2d offers is gone, and that sucks. And also having to work with a damn camera in the middle of some happening is shit.
Going 3D was the worst decision ever and I hope the game sells bad as hell just to show them that going 3D was a very bad decision. I hope they burn in hell for destroying my all time favorite pc game. Sad
Spellbound used to be my favorite pc developer with games like desperados 1, robin hood and even chicago 1930, but now they suck big time.

Commandos down the drain and now this. Now there's nothing left. Sad
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th May 2006 01:00    Post subject:
pallebrun wrote:
This blows and this is normally my favorite genre on the pc. Sad
The incredible detail that 2d offers is gone, and that sucks. And also having to work with a damn camera in the middle of some happening is shit.
Going 3D was the worst decision ever and I hope the game sells bad as hell just to show them that going 3D was a very bad decision. I hope they burn in hell for destroying my all time favorite pc game. Sad
Spellbound used to be my favorite pc developer with games like desperados 1, robin hood and even chicago 1930, but now they suck big time.

Commandos down the drain and now this. Now there's nothing left. Sad


uhh, u can play 2d if u wan still........ Confused
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th May 2006 02:47    Post subject:
Hahaha after finally getting this to work.... nearly cried with laughter... GUN so owns this..

haha the Horse animation is hilarious... ( deleted )


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PostPosted: Sun, 14th May 2006 02:57    Post subject:
pallebrun wrote:
This blows and this is normally my favorite genre on the pc. Sad
The incredible detail that 2d offers is gone, and that sucks. And also having to work with a damn camera in the middle of some happening is shit.
Going 3D was the worst decision ever and I hope the game sells bad as hell just to show them that going 3D was a very bad decision. I hope they burn in hell for destroying my all time favorite pc game. Sad
Spellbound used to be my favorite pc developer with games like desperados 1, robin hood and even chicago 1930, but now they suck big time.

Commandos down the drain and now this. Now there's nothing left. Sad


sounds like what happened with team17´s worms series. why dont they just stay in 2d and expand on that? Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th May 2006 04:56    Post subject:
Same reason almost every RPG maker feels they have to go to first person view and realtime combat now, when there's nothing at all wrong with 3rd person/isometric or turn-based combat. Some marketing person decided that's the only way to sell the game, so the devs go ahead and 'fix' something that wasn't broken in the first place.
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th May 2006 07:11    Post subject:
Very easy to go on to DVD joining 4 CD's in one ISO and erasing the files that repeat themselves. But it when RELOADED does the crack.

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PostPosted: Sun, 14th May 2006 07:15    Post subject:
i played the game for like 5 minutes.. and exited quickly.. i dont mind the 3d... but the voices??? WTF?? Cooper had the best lonley ranger.. good bad guy.. misterious voice.. and now he sound like a trashman!!.. that and the comic-book cinematics at the begining of the mission.. in the meantime i picked up againg Desperados 1.. man.. that a good game.. i still love the graphics... and it's been 5 YEARS!! .. better than any 3d crap nowadays!


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PostPosted: Sun, 14th May 2006 08:14    Post subject:
...ugh


I'll just reinstall the first Desperados.
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th May 2006 08:35    Post subject:
sexyjesus wrote:

Obviously, E3 news is worthless to make a statement like that with a straight face. All companies would like more money, Atari included. You have absolutely no facts or figures to back up your claims that the Clone is hurting alot. You post has to be a joke.


You should watch news and you should read offical game forum. And you should listen to Atari multiple Support forum. Problem is an easy discribtion:

EU: Desperados retailed and sold very well in the first 2 weeks. Also alot of online shops in the uk and france had a great amount of orders placed.

When Unleashed pred the clone 3 shops called Atari if there is some major bugs in the game or so as they had a cancel rate for the day and the day after clone for about 80%.

Taken from offical Atari AG News:
f.e.
UKs amazon had (to their claims) 52.000 placed. When the clone came 47.600+ orders got canceled. Thats why Amazon called Atari asking if something is wrong or a bad charge or something like this.

You see?

It seems RLD doesnt ignore such facts. A secucrack (since it broken) did never as long as these days. It was a big news on Atari Homepage that Atari and Spellbound need the success of Desperados 2 to continue their work or get insolvency.
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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Sun, 14th May 2006 11:45    Post subject:
outofhere wrote:

uhh, u can play 2d if u wan still........ Confused


Eh? No you cant. Just because you use that perspective it's still 3D. Buildings are 3D and not painted. People and objects are polys and not sprites.
And since the game is built around 3D the top view perspective wont give you the same view that a standard 2D game would. This game is built so that you have to change the camera around, otherwise you wont see crap at times. This was not the case with the 2D games.

Nailbiter wrote:

sounds like what happened with team17´s worms series. why dont they just stay in 2d and expand on that? Crying or Very sad


Yeah, stupid developers/publishers and stupid majority of gamers that want 3D in everything. :/


pushf_or_popad wrote:

Obviously, E3 news is worthless to make a statement like that with a straight face. All companies would like more money, Atari included. You have absolutely no facts or figures to back up your claims that the Clone is hurting alot. You post has to be a joke.

You should watch news and you should read offical game forum. And you should listen to Atari multiple Support forum. Problem is an easy discribtion:

EU: Desperados retailed and sold very well in the first 2 weeks. Also alot of online shops in the uk and france had a great amount of orders placed.

When Unleashed pred the clone 3 shops called Atari if there is some major bugs in the game or so as they had a cancel rate for the day and the day after clone for about 80%.

Taken from offical Atari AG News:
f.e.
UKs amazon had (to their claims) 52.000 placed. When the clone came 47.600+ orders got canceled. Thats why Amazon called Atari asking if something is wrong or a bad charge or something like this.

You see?


All these people (problary fans of the first game) problary just tried the clone and saw how incredible shitty the game is and therefor canceled their preorder. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th May 2006 12:45    Post subject:
This game stinks badly. Is this German game?
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th May 2006 18:08    Post subject:
pushf_or_popad wrote:

You should watch news and you should read offical game forum. And you should listen to Atari multiple Support forum. Problem is an easy discribtion:

EU: Desperados retailed and sold very well in the first 2 weeks. Also alot of online shops in the uk and france had a great amount of orders placed.

When Unleashed pred the clone 3 shops called Atari if there is some major bugs in the game or so as they had a cancel rate for the day and the day after clone for about 80%.

Taken from offical Atari AG News:
f.e.
UKs amazon had (to their claims) 52.000 placed. When the clone came 47.600+ orders got canceled. Thats why Amazon called Atari asking if something is wrong or a bad charge or something like this.

You see?

It seems RLD doesnt ignore such facts. A secucrack (since it broken) did never as long as these days. It was a big news on Atari Homepage that Atari and Spellbound need the success of Desperados 2 to continue their work or get insolvency.


Link to that info from a reliable source (i.e. not Atari themselves)? Calling company PR spin "facts" is pretty silly.

Anyway, I can't imagine that many fans of the Desperados series or other Spellbound games would consider this game worth buying. They made a poor design decision to try to get new fans while alienating many of the old ones, if that comes back to bite them in the ass, so be it. I played the game, saw how much they screwed it up from the previous one, and won't be buying it now. That's not the clone's fault, it's the game's.

Same goes for Atari. This is the same company that shoved Boiling Point out the door in a completely unplayable state, and even after several months/patches the game still never came close to the potential it had if they had simply waited to release it when it was done. Fahrenheit came close to being ruined in the same way; it was still a good game but the last few chapters of the game were obviously rushed and detracted from the experience. Atari has shitty business practices, and if people are so wary of them now that they download the games they release first rather than shelling out $50 for something that is non-returnable, then they only have themselves to blame.
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th May 2006 22:03    Post subject:
I actually like this game,but then again I never played desperados 1. Very Happy
I only "hate" the sneaking missions...they can be quite annoying and frustrating...

But funny thing happened. The game worked perfectly for me,when I followed the steps in the nfo,but as soon as I restarted my comp...it started to complain and wouldn't start...wonder why... Confused
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th May 2006 22:20    Post subject:
proekaan wrote:
I actually like this game,but then again I never played desperados 1


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Go buy that game ASAP, that game is awsome Cool
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th May 2006 23:36    Post subject:
Desperados 1 was not that awesome, Commandos 2 was king of the genre at that time. And Desperados 2 is not that bad, so please stop inflating things.
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th May 2006 23:39    Post subject:
The game was good imo, but not awesome. be careful with that word Wink
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th May 2006 00:15    Post subject:
I don't manage to install the BWCLONE version. I tried to mount it and i used the asr.exe too start the game and i got the same error as with the ITWINS version. Please can someone post how he has managed to start this game? In the cd4 directory I have 4 files with bwa, bwi, bwt, and bws extension two of them is the blindwrite extension how about the other two? And what I have do with them?


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PostPosted: Mon, 15th May 2006 00:32    Post subject:
Glottis wrote:
Desperados 1 was not that awesome, Commandos 2 was king of the genre at that time. And Desperados 2 is not that bad, so please stop inflating things.

Desperados 1 was great it was the first game that had thinking AI in such a game , even commandos didn`t have it , you could kill every one and no one noticed it , but in Desperados 1 kill some one and someone that have walked the same route will notice that one of his men is missing and start shouting to the others and asking for him and if they answer that they cannot find or seen him then they will start a search party , and THAT AI and this idear of those badies thinking was awesome ,
becoz Commandos 2 was only graphics and no thinking AI only script decisions and they only reacted if they have seen a body


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PostPosted: Mon, 15th May 2006 02:08    Post subject:
Hfric wrote:
Glottis wrote:
Desperados 1 was not that awesome, Commandos 2 was king of the genre at that time. And Desperados 2 is not that bad, so please stop inflating things.

Desperados 1 was great it was the first game that had thinking AI in such a game , even commandos didn`t have it , you could kill every one and no one noticed it , but in Desperados 1 kill some one and someone that have walked the same route will notice that one of his men is missing and start shouting to the others and asking for him and if they answer that they cannot find or seen him then they will start a search party , and THAT AI and this idear of those badies thinking was awesome ,


Wow, that is impressive. I don't think i've ever seen that in a game before. Not even Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory or the Hitman series have that, and they are games that really should.


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PostPosted: Mon, 15th May 2006 10:40    Post subject:
Hi, I just got down this game, installed it and all, but when I attempt to run it with "asr" it complains that I haven't got a CD/DVD inputted, I mounted this on D-Tools 4.03e (or whatever the new one is called) and YET it doesn't work, any idea what to do?


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PostPosted: Mon, 15th May 2006 11:07    Post subject:
mount the cd4 in dt copy the asr.exe in the installed game directory and run it from there. It shoud work.


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PostPosted: Mon, 15th May 2006 11:20    Post subject:
I have the unleashed version and I can't find asr.exe anywhere..
Desperados 2 says: "Conflict with Disc Emulator Software detected."
But I use DT4 and selected "Securom" (Emulation option)

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