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Posted: Sun, 23rd Apr 2006 08:00 Post subject: Fight Club? |
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I just watched it, and while it was a good movie, I don't get it. So he just invented tyler?
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chiv
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Posted: Sun, 23rd Apr 2006 09:32 Post subject: |
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pretty much. tyler was who he wished he could be, but couldn't bring himself to do and act the way he wished, so he, unaware, created an alternate identity, that he was aware of, but didn't know wasnt real.
sometimes he imagined tyler doing things, but most times he actually was tyler, his mind just percieved that he was simply WATCHING tyler do it.
pretty cool really, fincher is one of the best directors, and a real favourite of mine.
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Posted: Sun, 23rd Apr 2006 17:45 Post subject: |
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Also see A Beautiful Mind for more on this subject. It's like the main character had a mix of multiple personality disorder and imagined people who helped progess there life in a direction.
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Posted: Sun, 23rd Apr 2006 17:50 Post subject: |
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Ok, it just seems funny how at the end he's beating the shit out of himself.
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Posted: Sun, 23rd Apr 2006 19:16 Post subject: |
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You kind of need to rewatch fight club a couple of times to really appreciate its greatness
It's easily one of my favorite all time movies.
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Posted: Sun, 23rd Apr 2006 19:30 Post subject: |
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Posted: Sun, 23rd Apr 2006 20:03 Post subject: |
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Posted: Sun, 23rd Apr 2006 20:27 Post subject: |
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Rules #1 there is no fightclub
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Posted: Sun, 23rd Apr 2006 20:50 Post subject: |
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snop1050 wrote: | theres an actual fight club type bar somwhere i think it was in nepal. it was shown on mind ,body & kickass moves or kickass miracles.
guy who presents it didnt take part though ,i think he didnt like how people were only fighting to show off to the women. bet he would have owned them all though.
its a really cool program i you are intrested in martial arts the guy goes around visiting grand masters and showing you a little of there fighting techniques ,some of them are pretty rough on him  |
That programme is shite. I watched about 3 eps and it's not that good 
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Posted: Mon, 24th Apr 2006 01:09 Post subject: |
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mind ,body & kick ass moves isnt that good ,some are allright though.
kick ass miracles is alot more intresting even if its just to watch people doing crazy stuff.
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ceanth
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Posted: Tue, 25th Apr 2006 10:10 Post subject: |
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someone care to explain the ending? When he shoots himself how does that kill tyler? I read this artical once and it said that everyone has a tyler durden within them i.e. everyone thinks they are something they are not or preceives themself as something they aint!
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chiv
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Posted: Tue, 25th Apr 2006 11:18 Post subject: |
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he physically shoot himself most likely to help mentally shoot and kill tyler -his mind would never be strong enough to simply 'mentally' destroy tyler, so he needs to use the gun (and shoot himself 'in the head' (cheek)) as a physical tool to help his mind kill off tyler... that was my understanding anyway.
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Posted: Tue, 25th Apr 2006 13:11 Post subject: |
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ceanth
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Posted: Tue, 25th Apr 2006 22:22 Post subject: |
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chiv wrote: | he physically shoot himself most likely to help mentally shoot and kill tyler -his mind would never be strong enough to simply 'mentally' destroy tyler, so he needs to use the gun (and shoot himself 'in the head' (cheek)) as a physical tool to help his mind kill off tyler... that was my understanding anyway. |
wow nicely put!
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Posted: Wed, 26th Apr 2006 01:23 Post subject: |
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The first time I watched it I was trippin on shrooms....confusing fuckin movie when your tripped out 
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Posted: Wed, 26th Apr 2006 01:26 Post subject: |
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feyenoord4ever wrote: | Great movie, but actually hated it when I saw it first.
The Pixies song at the end...  |
hell yea man... the end with the song is fantastic.
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Posted: Wed, 26th Apr 2006 02:35 Post subject: |
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SycoShaman wrote: | The first time I watched it I was trippin on shrooms....confusing fuckin movie when your tripped out  |
Watch unusual suspects when you're tripping out. 
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year, running over the same old ground. What have we found? The same old fears. Wish you were here.
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Posted: Wed, 26th Apr 2006 12:36 Post subject: |
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fXK wrote: | Rules #1 there is no fightclub |
That's not the first rule.
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Posted: Wed, 3rd May 2006 11:41 Post subject: |
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amazing film one of my favourites
and yes need to watch it a few times
listen up maggots
for fight club rule#1 is "you do not talk about fightclub"
for project mayhem rule #1 is "you do not ask questions" (brilliant)
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Posted: Wed, 3rd May 2006 12:09 Post subject: |
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Snatch is just as good imo.
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Posted: Sat, 6th May 2006 13:39 Post subject: |
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chiv wrote: | fincher is one of the best directors, and a real favourite of mine. |
You schould know that Fincher doesn't deserve too much credit for this. The movie is just a 1:1 adaption of the novel "Fight Club" by Chuck Palahniuk. The stye, the great/sick ideas and the dialogue was just copied from the book.
But it's good that Fincher didn't try to "soften" the movie and stood true to the hard and uncompromising novel.
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Posted: Sat, 6th May 2006 21:21 Post subject: |
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me7 wrote: | chiv wrote: | fincher is one of the best directors, and a real favourite of mine. |
You schould know that Fincher doesn't deserve too much credit for this. The movie is just a 1:1 adaption of the novel "Fight Club" by Chuck Palahniuk. The stye, the great/sick ideas and the dialogue was just copied from the book.
But it's good that Fincher didn't try to "soften" the movie and stood true to the hard and uncompromising novel. |
I haven't read it, but you should know that it's nearly impossible to make a 1:1 adaption of a novel (i haven't seen one yet..).
If Fincher achieved that, it shows what an awsome Director he is.
btw.:
two examples known for an authentic adaption
(haven't read the books aswell -lazy me- )
http://imdb.com/title/tt0056592/
http://imdb.com/title/tt0096332/
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chiv
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Posted: Sun, 7th May 2006 06:16 Post subject: |
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me7 wrote: | chiv wrote: | fincher is one of the best directors, and a real favourite of mine. |
You schould know that Fincher doesn't deserve too much credit for this. The movie is just a 1:1 adaption of the novel "Fight Club" by Chuck Palahniuk. The stye, the great/sick ideas and the dialogue was just copied from the book.
But it's good that Fincher didn't try to "soften" the movie and stood true to the hard and uncompromising novel. |
id say thats somewhat unfair. any idiot can take a novel and make a film and completely f*ck it sideways. being able to take a novel, keep it faithful, get an awesome performance out of his cast, and shoot it so wondefullly well, deserves a heck of a lot of respect and credit.
but also, my statement was a pretty broad one, everything he has done has been amazing, even alien 3 (which was a disaster because of studio interferance, but his direction with what he had to work with, given it was his first film, was still outstanding)
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Posted: Sun, 7th May 2006 11:25 Post subject: |
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ratio wrote: | me7 wrote: | chiv wrote: | fincher is one of the best directors, and a real favourite of mine. |
You schould know that Fincher doesn't deserve too much credit for this. The movie is just a 1:1 adaption of the novel "Fight Club" by Chuck Palahniuk. The stye, the great/sick ideas and the dialogue was just copied from the book.
But it's good that Fincher didn't try to "soften" the movie and stood true to the hard and uncompromising novel. |
I haven't read it, but you should know that it's nearly impossible to make a 1:1 adaption of a novel (i haven't seen one yet..).
If Fincher achieved that, it shows what an awsome Director he is.
btw.:
two examples known for an authentic adaption
(haven't read the books aswell -lazy me- )
http://imdb.com/title/tt0056592/
http://imdb.com/title/tt0096332/ |
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas is very accurate.
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Posted: Sun, 7th May 2006 17:17 Post subject: |
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should be noted that it's a miracle alien3 ever formed up to be even a half coherent film
it was rewritten several times while they were already filming
just watch the theaterical cut and the production cut and see for your selves
they're two completely different films
i can't imagine the strain he must have been under
it's like building a tower of cards in an earthquake
you, sir(me7), don't have a shitting clue of director's talent influence on the final product
just watch a few uwe boll films
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