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W123
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Holy shit the last boss  What trash.
 Spoiler: | the green hands and green beam attack in particular can fuck off |
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| Posted: Sat, 20th Jun 2026 02:29 Post subject: |
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Git gud, scrub.
But yeah, if you played it with the latest patch, he's been buffed.
BTW. Remember how in Gothic 1 Cor Kalom and Baals just vanished at some point? In the remake | Spoiler: | they actually set up a proper camp before they are able to enter the temple. |
I was pleasantly surprised by the attention to detail.
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W123
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| Posted: Sat, 20th Jun 2026 05:48 Post subject: |
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Yeah i got the latest patch. | Spoiler: | Didn't realize he had been buffed. The tick rate on the green hands is way overtuned, it does mutliple hits per second it seems like. I had him down to one hit but i had to roll around like a retard in circles. Reminded me of Witcher 2 tbh. |
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W123
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Sun, 21st Jun 2026 10:52 Post subject: |
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I'm reaching the end of this. I had such a love hate experience with the remake.
On one hand it's Gothic and I'm so happy this got remade. They did put the effort into recreating as much as possible of the original experience. I'm glad to see the progressive road from beggar to hero unaltered. You can see that there was love put into this by some developers who were actual fans of the original game. Its success makes me hopeful for a Gothic 2 remake which I really want.
On the other hand, too often this game feels like a mod made by amateurs. There are so many bugs related to everything, so many questionable design choices and so many mechanics that are poorly implemented:
- The quest triggers constantly fuck up, which is mind boggling considering this is not even an RPG heavily focused on choices and often the bugged triggers have nothing to do with choices at all (or not visible ones at least).
- The lockpicking system is a joke, the most stupid and time consuming puzzles for the worst loot.
- The vendors seem to forget what you sold to them after patches.
- The melee combat is probably some of the worst I've experienced in many years. Most animations are junky to say the least. The hitboxes are all over the place (the enemy attacks you with a 1h sword and reaches you, you attack back with a 2h weapon and miss by half a meter). There are actual input problems during melee fights, mostly when you fight on slops. The telegraphy of attacks is trash. The enemies have no weight to them, they just bounce around like acrobats (especially animals). The balance is too radical, you are either destroyed or you tank the damage as if it's nothing. The enemies track you mid-air. etc. I wasn't expecting the accuracy, snappiness and fluidity of Sekiro, but not this level of junk either.
- The AI behavior is hilarious most of the time, reminds me of WoW or other MMOs from the early 2000s.
- How is it possible for a singleplayer game in 2026 to have "input lag"? Pressing quickload has you waiting 3-5 seconds before the game starts loading. Pressing the load button from the menu sometimes doesn't trigger loading even after multiple attempts.
- Events behave like we are in the early 2000s. e.g. Damage triggers before the actual animation to make sure you can't get past an area. Really?! They couldn't do it another way? Loading won't bring back the exact state of the world when you saved the game. These are just some examples of the outdated and/or immersion breaking way they approached various situations.
There's so much incompetence at play here and I wouldn't blame the younger audience if they just said "fuck this".
I have to say that this remake proves what a fantastic experience Gothic truly was (and still is), if it's so enticing against so many odds.
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| Posted: Sun, 21st Jun 2026 17:16 Post subject: |
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I disagree with lockpicking being a joke, it's probably the most interesting system I've ever encountered and serves as a little memory puzzle.
The rewards are a joke though,you open a 7 tumbler lock and there's 10 ore, an apple and two torches behind it  This was a problem in Gothic 1 too, and unfortunately they didn't fix it.
I'd understand if miners had nothing, since they don't, but even fucking Ore Barons keep one piece of silverware and moldy cheese in their chests?
| sin317 wrote: |
typical jew comment
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W123
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| Posted: Sun, 21st Jun 2026 18:58 Post subject: |
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| Nodrim wrote: | I'm reaching the end of this. I had such a love hate experience with the remake.
On one hand it's Gothic and I'm so happy this got remade. They did put the effort into recreating as much as possible of the original experience. I'm glad to see the progressive road from beggar to hero unaltered. You can see that there was love put into this by some developers that were actual fans of the original game. It's success makes me hopeful for a Gothic 2 remake which I really want.
On the other hand, too often this game feels like a mod made by amateurs. There are so many bugs related to everything, so many questionable design choices and so many mechanics that are poorly implemented:
- The quest triggers constantly fuck up, which is mind boggling when this is not an RPG heavily based on choices and often the bugged triggers have nothing to do with choices (or not visible ones at least).
- The lockpicking system is a joke, the most stupid and time consuming puzzles for the worst loot.
- Vendors seem to forget what you sold to them after patches.
- The melee combat is probably some of the worst I've experienced in many years. Most animations are junky to say the least. The hitboxes are all over the place (the enemy attacks you with a 1h sword and reaches you, you attack back with a 2h weapon and miss by half a meter). There are actual input problems during melee fights, mostly when you fight on slops. The telegraphy of attacks is trash. The enemies have no weight to them, they just bounce around like acrobats (especially animals). The balance is too radical, you are either destroyed or you tank the damage as if it's nothing. The enemies track you mid-air. etc. I wasn't expecting the accuracy, snappiness and fluidity of Sekiro, but not junk either.
- The AI behavior is hilarious most of the time, reminds me of WoW or other MMOs.
- How is it possible for a singleplayer game in 2026 to have "input lag"? Pressing quickload has you waiting 3-5 seconds before the game starts loading. Pressing the load button from the menu sometimes doesn't trigger loading even after multiple attempts.
- Events behave like we are in the early 2000s. e.g. Damage triggering before the actual animation to make sure you can't get past an area. Really?! They couldn't do it another way? Loading want bring back the exact state of the world when you saved the game. These are just some examples of the outdated and/or immersion breaking way they approached various situations.
There's so much incompetence at play here and I wouldn't blame the younger audience if they just said "fuck this".
I have to say that this remake proves what a fantastic experience Gothic truly was (and still is), if it's so enticing against so many odds. |
Finished yesterday and mostly agree with you. It was a 6.5-7/10 for me. People received it as better than it is because of nostalgia (understandable) AND the fact that these types of open world RPG games are now such generic checklist-gameplay trash, so something that breaks the mold is going to naturally feel refreshing.
First half i had a lot of fun but imo the back half was pretty bad, but it wouldn't be a PB game if that wasn't the case!
As far as combat, what was released is about what i expected. It's about as janky as the original, but worse the farther you get because there is now a riposte system that sometimes works and sometimes doesn't because of reasons you mentioned (hitboxes, animation telegraphs, janky ass input delays etc)
The quick save/load thing pissed me off to no end, more than anything else. I've never seen devs fuck up quick save and quick load so badly.
There were some entertaining bugs i hit, mostly things like, when i loaded my game, all of a sudden the NPCs around me would randomly turn hostile and beat my ass.
The funniest one was towards the end when | Spoiler: | i just told Saturas that i was going to charge Uriziel with their ore, which he accepted. After i charged the sword with Milten, he shows up and wants to kill me So i ended up killing Saturas, one of the main allies of the sequel. Side note, I thought this was some stupid ass writing, the fact that you can just tell Saturas what you're going to do and he's just like "Ok, i appreciate you telling me the truth" lmao. |
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tonizito
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| Posted: Sun, 21st Jun 2026 20:41 Post subject: |
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So, better off waiting a couple of years until derpelopers/modders fix the shit.
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Sun, 21st Jun 2026 21:12 Post subject: |
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| tonizito wrote: | | So, better off waiting a couple of years until derpelopers/modders fix the shit. |
Some things are just not fixable at this point. I'm hoping they won't make it into the Gothic 2 remake.
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