Mafia: The Old Country (2K/Hangar 13) [August 8th]
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RMFX




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PostPosted: Thu, 8th May 2025 21:06    Post subject:
I'll play it. It is an uncharted clone but I'm ok with it. I find it weird that there's no crosshair in that gameplay though. What's that all about?
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vurt




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PostPosted: Thu, 8th May 2025 21:08    Post subject:
friketje wrote:
vurt wrote:
i wonder if it's open world'ish at all, or straight linear, like Uncharted? Many people comments on the video that its Assassins Creed, i don't understand how, i don't see the resemblance, unless it's also shown its as open world and with as much free roaming.


The racing scene and the horse chase are looking like they take place in a lane with a less detailed scenery in the background like classic arcade racing games.
So it's not open world i guess??

Sucks, my first impression was that they aimed for a RDR clone.


That would have been optimal for sure, but i'll likely give it a shot... i guess some events will be closed like that so not entirely open world, but hopefully not small worlds in various chapters, like Uncharted, that i would not classify as open world at all.
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lametta




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PostPosted: Thu, 8th May 2025 22:18    Post subject:
headshot wrote:
https://youtu.be/Qve4vtkoUHc

is he shooting a double barrel shotgun thrice? (1:02) ???
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PostPosted: Fri, 9th May 2025 01:51    Post subject:
Doubling down on the arcade style gameplay and cinematics
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PostPosted: Fri, 9th May 2025 08:51    Post subject:
Well, it certainly looks... 'modern'.


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vurt




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PostPosted: Fri, 9th May 2025 10:44    Post subject:
madness wrote:
vurt wrote:
i wonder if it's open world'ish at all, or straight linear, like Uncharted? Many people comments on the video that its Assassins Creed, i don't understand how, i don't see the resemblance, unless it's also shown its as open world and with as much free roaming.


They just said at a PAX stream that it's like Mafia 1 and 2, so there is open world that you can explore but they guide you though a linear story.


from their own web site: https://mafia.2k.com/the-old-country/faq/

"Does Mafia: The Old Country feature an open world?
No. Mafia: The Old Country is a linear, narrative-driven game."

so it's not like Maffia 1-2...
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friketje




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PostPosted: Fri, 9th May 2025 12:08    Post subject:
Forget about it then. Why do they even use the Mafia franchise??
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vurt




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PostPosted: Fri, 9th May 2025 14:30    Post subject:
Slightly in their defence, they don't call it Mafia 4, they call it "Mafia: the old country", this is in line with how you usually do the naming for a spin-off game, so you say "yes it's a part of this franchise, but its something else than the former games".
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dsergei




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PostPosted: Fri, 9th May 2025 14:56    Post subject:
The first game is pretty much a linear story as well. There's not much to do in the "open world" other than the optional Lucas Bertone missions.
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PostPosted: Fri, 9th May 2025 15:15    Post subject:
looks really good


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PostPosted: Fri, 9th May 2025 17:20    Post subject:
friketje wrote:
Forget about it then. Why do they even use the Mafia franchise??


Mafia was never a truly open world game.

1. Mafia 1 - 'open world' with charm at that time people weren't spoiled by GTA / FarCry / AC games.
2. Mafia 2 - people criticized the so-called open world as empty, disappointing - and they were right!
3. Mafia 3 - who cares
4. Mafia 1 Remake - nice open world but EMPTY and pointless to roam around

Conclusion: when you say open world people expect the absolute best (romances, minigames, hookers, french fries, dynamic events, a living world etc.).

So they would either make:

1. A true open world (aka GTA) - a monumental task that they have NO RESOURCES for!
2. A Uncharted / Tomb Raider / Metro / Deus Ex style game - less resources, more cinematic and detailed, more STORY and leaded narrative.

Their decision to make it liniar is probably the best. 👍


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PostPosted: Sat, 10th May 2025 13:26    Post subject:
Mafia's open world amounted to little more than window dressing, but it still was a vital part of the experience thanks to the authenticity of the architecture, accurate vehicle physics, police AI and the unforgettable music while roaming around. It boosted the immersion factor up by a few notches, although the game was obviously limited by the hardware constraints of that time*. Then there was the realistic gunplay with its mouse-centric controls, the believable story with no heroes nor over-the-top-ness and...madonn'. We'll never have that ever again.

*Meanwhile in 2025, 23 years after the release of the first game: "I heard you like movies so here, have Indiana Enzo and the Great Cannoli"
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th May 2025 14:39    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
Mafia's open world amounted to little more than window dressing, but it still was a vital part of the experience thanks to the authenticity of the architecture, accurate vehicle physics, police AI and the unforgettable music while roaming around. It boosted the immersion factor up by a few notches, although the game was obviously limited by the hardware constraints of that time*. Then there was the realistic gunplay with its mouse-centric controls, the believable story with no heroes nor over-the-top-ness and...madonn'. We'll never have that ever again.


I was actually quite OK with that, it suits me better than GTA V AKA The Sims style of forced social things you have to do while you're just trying to find a way to trigger the next story mission.

The only major thing I disliked about the Mafia III were those generic takeover missions which were all quite repetitive and tiresome. I'd also prefer if they added a first person view like GTA V did on PC. The setting and the music were quite cool, unlike this Sicilian setting that sounds boring, IMHO.
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th May 2025 19:06    Post subject:


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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Jul 2025 19:57    Post subject:
Looks very generic. If they didn't call it Mafia, it would also be fine (same with Mafia 3). They had something special with 1st one and even 2nd one, but now it just looks like milking the franchise. Most likely skip for me unless people score it really high.
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Jul 2025 20:52    Post subject:
yea this doesn't look very exciting whatsoever
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Jul 2025 20:53    Post subject:
The more they show it the more boring it looks Sad
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Jul 2025 01:09    Post subject:
Looks more like Sniper Elite than Mafia
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Jul 2025 01:16    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
Looks more like Sniper Elite than Mafia


100%. Looks cheap, used, reused and washed again.

And I'm talking assets, gameplay, style, you name it.

Another piece of worthless trash on the horizon.

And that farcical driving sequence... Yay. Fun.


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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Jul 2025 01:24    Post subject:
And the dialogues?

-Nice ass on that girl, eh?
-Mozzarella pizza pasta, waddaboutit eh?

*gunshots*

-MAMMA MIA
-PREGO PER FAVOR
-CHIUDERE LA PORTA, DIO PORCO!

How inspired.


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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Jul 2025 12:31    Post subject:
Haha yeah, the guards speaking English with completely random vaffanculo and stronzo in between made me giggle. It reminded me of Hitman 2 SA's Sicily level where they would yell "buco di culo di un Pisano" for absolutely no reason Laughing

Unfortunately, the combination of formulaic console TPS with apathetic AI and Fast & Furious: Taormina Drift sessions is precisely what was expected from Hangar 13.
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jul 2025 12:17    Post subject:
Another stinker by modern devs
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Kezmark




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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jul 2025 12:34    Post subject:
How else would people know it takes place in Italy if not for "Get the pezzo di merda out." Can you just pick a language and stick to it? The awful accents, and that godfather wannabe are already bad enough.

The gameplay looks mediocre, just another third-person cover-shooty-whatever game.
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jul 2025 13:02    Post subject:
Uncharted: The Old Country
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jul 2025 18:48    Post subject:
No AAA company will dare to innovate today. Unless it's from (eastern) Europe and it's not AAA... Laughing

So, you want something different, new, innovative?

Look elsewhere. Mayhaps in the indie scene.


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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Jul 2025 20:55    Post subject:
looks like mafia 1 remake


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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Jul 2025 18:28    Post subject:


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