Dragon Age: The Veilguard
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Yuri




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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Nov 2024 17:46    Post subject:
Il_Padrino wrote:
I wasn't endorsing it either. More like showing the hypocrisy about the writing in this, when BG3 ain't much better and is considered the best rpg since jesus.

It's those thirsty fuccbois and thots on Xitter/Tumblr etc who were praising it like crazy.



1 and 2 are still amazing.
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lametta




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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Nov 2024 18:15    Post subject:
bg3 is better.
You can be a bad character, it has a memorable bad villain (rapahael) etc.
Does it have woke/bad parts? yeah but its nothing compared to veilguard imo.
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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Nov 2024 18:26    Post subject:
Exactly, despite all its Sins(tm), the streamlining and writing filled with unnecessary Larianisms, as far as I'm concerned Baldur's Original Gale 3 is a far more immersive, engaging and mechanically sound RPG experience than the current BioWerEA could ever provide. It's like they saw BG3's success and took *all* the wrong lessons from it, bumping the brainless couch factor up by a dozen notches whilst adding a layer of cheap activism to fulfil their talentless hires' lifelong dream.
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Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Nov 2024 19:07    Post subject:
Il_Padrino wrote:
I wasn't endorsing it either. More like showing the hypocrisy about the writing in this, when BG3 ain't much better and is considered the best rpg since jesus.
Didn't read much comparisons re: writing between both, most comparisons were related to roleplaying-ability (if that's a word).

Like what the fuck is this for choices:
Neon wrote:

That and that those are FO4 dialogue choices too:
- Option: "that's... weird, taash"
- Dialogue for that option: "Wow taash you're so quirky and and weird and the best uWu :3 :3"


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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Nov 2024 19:22    Post subject:
are you guys seriously comparing BG3 to this? wtf is wrong w you Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Nov 2024 19:29    Post subject:
Laughing



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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Nov 2024 20:42    Post subject:
So is Mortisimal Gaming going to retract his GOTY, BEST GAME IN THE SERIES?
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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Nov 2024 21:48    Post subject:
A-A wrote:
So is Mortisimal Gaming going to retract his GOTY, BEST GAME IN THE SERIES?

He already wrote he won't do that. It's his GOTY deal with and send him some free codes for games so he can check the game.


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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Nov 2024 23:50    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
Exactly, despite all its Sins(tm), the streamlining and writing filled with unnecessary Larianisms, as far as I'm concerned Baldur's Original Gale 3 is a far more immersive, engaging and mechanically sound RPG experience than the current BioWerEA could ever provide. It's like they saw BG3's success and took *all* the wrong lessons from it, bumping the brainless couch factor up by a dozen notches whilst adding a layer of cheap activism to fulfil their talentless hires' lifelong dream.

Yeah, this. Didn't want to give any other impression Laughing

Veilguard has practically the same controls as God of War, and even as an rpg leans closer to that than to BG3 Laughing It's no GOTY material, there's nothing new.

But, cringe moments aside, it's a pretty decent game for what I've seen so far. Better than most AAA games (eg SW Outlaws), even if that's not saying much.


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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Nov 2024 01:41    Post subject:
A failure in the making. We were hyped back then Neutral



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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Nov 2024 10:13    Post subject:
headshot wrote:
A failure in the making. We were hyped back then Neutral


"WE" were? Confused
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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Nov 2024 10:57    Post subject:
polyluxx wrote:
headshot wrote:
A failure in the making. We were hyped back then Neutral


"WE" were? Confused



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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Nov 2024 11:34    Post subject:
Laughing

Well ok not ‘we’, I can’t speak for everyone but I’m sure a lot more of us were hyped 4 years ago.


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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Nov 2024 11:38    Post subject:
When did the tranny take over the production?
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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Nov 2024 13:56    Post subject:
I don't remember anyone being hyped

But I don't see how this is a failure yet either

Seems to be doing fairly well so far?
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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Nov 2024 14:03    Post subject:
How is it doing fairly well? It hasn't even broken 90k all-time peak. I doubt it sold more then half a mil. That is terrible.
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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Nov 2024 14:07    Post subject:
Il_Padrino wrote:
ixigia wrote:
Exactly, despite all its Sins(tm), the streamlining and writing filled with unnecessary Larianisms, as far as I'm concerned Baldur's Original Gale 3 is a far more immersive, engaging and mechanically sound RPG experience than the current BioWerEA could ever provide. It's like they saw BG3's success and took *all* the wrong lessons from it, bumping the brainless couch factor up by a dozen notches whilst adding a layer of cheap activism to fulfil their talentless hires' lifelong dream.

Yeah, this. Didn't want to give any other impression Laughing

Veilguard has practically the same controls as God of War, and even as an rpg leans closer to that than to BG3 Laughing It's no GOTY material, there's nothing new.

But, cringe moments aside, it's a pretty decent game for what I've seen so far. Better than most AAA games (eg SW Outlaws), even if that's not saying much.

amen

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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Nov 2024 14:35    Post subject:
Amadeus wrote:
I don't remember anyone being hyped

But I don't see how this is a failure yet either

Seems to be doing fairly well so far?

https://steamdb.info/app/1845910/charts/

^That's "doing fairly well"? For a new entry on a known franchise of a AAA publisher and developer?
Schreier, is that you? Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Nov 2024 16:29    Post subject:
I launched the game, it started doing the shaders then it restarted my system lol


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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Nov 2024 18:19    Post subject:
Kezmark wrote:
How is it doing fairly well? It hasn't even broken 90k all-time peak. I doubt it sold more then half a mil. That is terrible.

With an average session of 2 hrs (probably less) and an average of 50k players you already have 600k buyers. Absolutely sold more than half a mil.


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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Nov 2024 18:30    Post subject:
which is terrible for a franchise like this which EASILY could have become a best seller and a top 10 Steam game for a while.

The leftist retards are as clueless as ever, they think activist leftist = average gamer.

The writing for this game will go down in history of how to not make an appealing game.
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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Nov 2024 18:37    Post subject:
Areius wrote:
Kezmark wrote:
How is it doing fairly well? It hasn't even broken 90k all-time peak. I doubt it sold more then half a mil. That is terrible.

With an average session of 2 hrs (probably less) and an average of 50k players you already have 600k buyers. Absolutely sold more than half a mil.


You need to factor in a lot of refunds also
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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Nov 2024 18:46    Post subject:
Areius wrote:

With an average session of 2 hrs (probably less) and an average of 50k players you already have 600k buyers. Absolutely sold more than half a mil.


I highly doubt that's the case, but even with that... this game was in development in some form or another for over 9 years. There is no way this will break even if it doesn't at least sell 5+ million copies, and that's being generous. It is a massive failure.
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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Nov 2024 19:01    Post subject:
Kezmark wrote:
Areius wrote:

With an average session of 2 hrs (probably less) and an average of 50k players you already have 600k buyers. Absolutely sold more than half a mil.


I highly doubt that's the case, but even with that... this game was in development in some form or another for over 9 years. There is no way this will break even if it doesn't at least sell 5+ million copies, and that's being generous. It is a massive failure.
This I disagree.
It's not a Concord-level failure, like some were hoping and it would never be.
But the numbers it's doing on the first week when compared to Space Marine 2, ME Legendary, etc are just not good.
Unless it has a really long tail (and how? replayability i dunno. Mod support? Laughing expansions/DLC? already confirmed that this successful game will have none) it's a failure but not a YUGE one.


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Kezmark




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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Nov 2024 19:12    Post subject:
How many devs do you think worked on this? Let's say 100, that's low by AAA western game standard, but I'll be generous. Given the time span, it would probably be at least 100 mil just on those salaries alone. If you add in marketing and whatever other extra cost they might have, there is no way this cost less then 200 mil. They would need around 4.5-5 mil copies sold to cover that when you deduct the cut from steam, epic, whatever consoles take. They will never make that. I never said it was concord level, that sold about as many copies as this has average players, but that doesn't make this not a huge failure, just cause there's a bigger clown.

Even if they sell 1-2 mil, they would still be at a big negative. And I've been generous with them. But even if I gave them even more generous numbers and say it only cost them 150 mi. They would still lose a lot with only 1-2 mil copies sold.

Breaking even, or having a small profit would be a failure for a franchise game like this. AAA isn't made for that, it's made for massive profits. That's why these cunts don't bother with smaller games and budgets anymore. Having a big loss is a huge failure regardless of how you look at it.
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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Nov 2024 19:30    Post subject:
But you need to factor in the scaling up and down on the size of the dev team, no? There wasn't always a constant number of x developers working on this, they'd scale up and down between working on Anthem and Andromerda (this one makes the triple crown of failure with those two) before going full hands on deck with this one.
Only a jase jase!1 schreier expose would provide accurate-ish numbers on that but he won't turn against his industry troon buddies so that will probably never happen.
Maybe we'll hear something around March next year during some EA investor call, but taking into account how protecting anything bad/negative they/thems make nowadays is an integral part of american culture... nah.


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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Nov 2024 19:38    Post subject:
You think me with my 100 developers is not factoring in? I gave them fairy tale numbers. Anthem had 200 devs, The witcher 3 had 250, DA inquisition itself had 200+ devs. Armored core 6 which is a smaller game for FromSoft took 200 devs. Baldur's gate 3 had almost 500 devs by the end. Teams have only grown over the years, and this game has been remade several times.

I have been insanely fair to the game, to the point of delusion. I don't actually think this game could cost less then 200-250 mil without marketing. I'm just giving it all the benefit of the doubt in my argument here. Cause I think it is far worse then that.
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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Nov 2024 19:43    Post subject:
Remember it has been in development hell for about a decade. The true cost is probably absurd
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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Nov 2024 20:12    Post subject:
Kezmark wrote:
You think me with my 100 developers is not factoring in? I gave them fairy tale numbers. Anthem had 200 devs, The witcher 3 had 250, DA inquisition itself had 200+ devs. Armored core 6 which is a smaller game for FromSoft took 200 devs. Baldur's gate 3 had almost 500 devs by the end. Teams have only grown over the years, and this game has been remade several times.

I have been insanely fair to the game, to the point of delusion. I don't actually think this game could cost less then 200-250 mil without marketing. I'm just giving it all the benefit of the doubt in my argument here. Cause I think it is far worse then that.
Thought that huge teams like those were just a factor during and after Covid-19, but if that was the case even back in 2013/2014 then damn Shocked


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