The AI Thread
Page 3 of 31 Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4 ... 29, 30, 31  Next
couleur
[Moderator] Janitor



Posts: 14361

PostPosted: Sun, 24th Sep 2023 20:07    Post subject:
FireMaster wrote:
we do live in interesting times men



Soon the rich will have no need for that 80% of the population, they'll live in walled AI & robot served and protected societies while the rest of us ooga booga it through.
Got a problem with it? A bullet will be auto-guided to your eyeball


If it can really feel pain and try to avoid it, that is where it will develop real consciousness.


"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
Back to top
vurt




Posts: 13847
Location: Sweden
PostPosted: Sun, 24th Sep 2023 20:13    Post subject:
The most interesting thing in terms of art/music/sound design or even for scripts or movie material is how fast we can work with it. Testing concepts that otherwise could take many years of getting good at for a human (and thus likely never tried at all because the idea might seem stupid or too out-there to try), an AI can do that in seconds. Tell it to mix Ernst Heckel with H.R Giger and Alex Grey or whatever, maybe something amazing emerges that we didn't even think about.
Back to top
PickupArtist




Posts: 9918

PostPosted: Sun, 24th Sep 2023 20:30    Post subject:
put a big sentence of what it made into google, i bet ull find it copied one to one sentences, leaving whoever uses it for profit open to litegation

nobody has time to sift n filter through 100 bad takes to find that one good one
Back to top
DXWarlock
VIP Member



Posts: 11422
Location: Florida, USA
PostPosted: Sun, 24th Sep 2023 20:36    Post subject:
@PickupArtist
No, that's not how it generates responses.
I dont think you grasp how it work out the dialog it makes. It's not piecing together already existing multiple strings of words, it's a giant matrix of probability of similar usages of words from a mind boggling range of that word used across all places it can be, with weights on the connection they have to context of the words before and after it. It is not using huge groups of 'single strings of words' and stitching the clumps together.

If ya want, I can give you the entire dialog of one of those. You'd be hard pressed to find where it 'stole that sentence from'. Since it doesn't work that way.
There IS cues to work out if an AI probably made it. But the more detail you give it, the less it detectable. Especially in fiction. The reason they can tell on say homework or essays is they are asking it for details of an existing thing, and it's limited to the data it has on that thing, just reworded. (as it cannot makeup details of a non-fiction thing).

A rough concept of how it does it:
(13:40 if it doesn't jump to it)


-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf

Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
Back to top
vurt




Posts: 13847
Location: Sweden
PostPosted: Sun, 24th Sep 2023 21:29    Post subject:
lol no one would be interested in AI if it just copied, it's not what its about at all. its not how it learns.

to go through stuff is not exactly time consuming either, i do it a lot for AI, you get good at that too.. but as time goes on its less and less needed.
Back to top
Shocktrooper




Posts: 4572

PostPosted: Mon, 25th Sep 2023 10:25    Post subject:
That AI will never be creative, wise or compassionate is a huge cope. There is no fundamental law that says so. There is no special or hidden function of the brain that can't be emulated.
It's like religious or spiritual people holding on to the concept of the soul.
The indignation when heliocentrism was suggested. The moral outrage when Darwin proposed that we are evolved from primates.
Every dogma that somehow we are special or unique was eventually shattered by scientific progress.


Last edited by Shocktrooper on Mon, 25th Sep 2023 10:35; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
Il_Padrino




Posts: 7570
Location: Greece by the North Sea
PostPosted: Mon, 25th Sep 2023 10:34    Post subject:
Yep, generative AI will never become truly intelligent. It'll take completely new technologies/algorithms, which we have no clue about yet. Real AGI is possibly (probably) still hundreds of years away.


There must have been a door there in the wall, when I came in.
Truly gone fishing.
Back to top
vurt




Posts: 13847
Location: Sweden
PostPosted: Mon, 25th Sep 2023 10:39    Post subject:
People are just angry it changes things up in a rather fundamental way, or at least so they think.
The same thing happened with synthesizers. People said it wasn't creative and it was all about "pressing a button", it would take the jobs from people who's learned a REAL instrument.

If we've learned anything, it is that analogue will always be considered to be the more luxurious of the two, something you pay for and something you can advertise completely differently than something digital. "We recorded the album entirely on a computer!" no one gives a shit. "we recorded our album with real instruments with real life acoustics in <insert fancy studio>" people will be impressed, they'll pay up, there's hype, there might be articles and headlines about it that will freely advertise the product.

When AI is a norm you can advertise human-made projects completely differently than now. It will always be considered more exquisite and such products will go up in price because it will be more of a rarity.
Back to top
Il_Padrino




Posts: 7570
Location: Greece by the North Sea
PostPosted: Mon, 25th Sep 2023 10:47    Post subject:
It's the same complaints and arguments since the invention of the Gutenberg press in the 15th century, the weaving machines in the 18th, or the micro chip in the early 20th.
I'm sure there was an uproar amongst slavers when slavery got abolished too Laughing


There must have been a door there in the wall, when I came in.
Truly gone fishing.
Back to top
vurt




Posts: 13847
Location: Sweden
PostPosted: Mon, 25th Sep 2023 10:58    Post subject:
it led to war so yes you might say there were a few people who were a bit displeased (well, a key part of the civil war was that)
Back to top
bringiton




Posts: 3716

PostPosted: Mon, 25th Sep 2023 21:00    Post subject:
DXWarlock wrote:
(as it cannot makeup details of a non-fiction thing)


Except it does. I mean obviously it can't create new things out of thin air, but I have had it happen quite a few times where it "lied" straight to my face, citing paragraphs or sources that simply did not exist. I do realize that is not completely what you meant, but still it is a probability based language model so it will give you diverging answers even on non-fiction, it will just be wrong Laughing


“The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.”
- Albert Camus
Back to top
DXWarlock
VIP Member



Posts: 11422
Location: Florida, USA
PostPosted: Tue, 26th Sep 2023 00:07    Post subject:
I get ya, yea I didn't mean it that way, I meant it is easier to detect if AI wrote it (using OTHER AI) when it sticks to the knowledge it does have on a thing real thing, if that thing isn't a super broad subject and is people ask it in lazy formed questions for the info that encourages it to give it nearly verbatim 'as it knows it'.

But I think we both meant the same thing Smile

I see it as its still in its baby steps, and can get delusional in what it's talking about. So I don't use it for asking any questions or finding information for about real things. Only two things I use it for is helping create fictional stuff in my tabletop, and cleaning up or helping with coding snippets.


-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf

Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
Back to top
Yuri




Posts: 11000

PostPosted: Tue, 26th Sep 2023 02:43    Post subject:



1 and 2 are still amazing.
Back to top
who13




Posts: 498

PostPosted: Tue, 26th Sep 2023 04:10    Post subject:
AI porn is where its at..when they get all that together with one of those fleshlites ..game over..earths ppuplation will be cut in half and the world will be beating its pecker like nobodys business
Back to top
Il_Padrino




Posts: 7570
Location: Greece by the North Sea
PostPosted: Tue, 26th Sep 2023 05:10    Post subject:
Yeah Laughing AI porn will save the world, if it can half the population Very Happy


There must have been a door there in the wall, when I came in.
Truly gone fishing.
Back to top
vurt




Posts: 13847
Location: Sweden
PostPosted: Tue, 26th Sep 2023 05:20    Post subject:
Il_Padrino wrote:
Yeah Laughing AI porn will save the world, if it can half the population Very Happy


where it would serve a good purpose they live like its year 1, so they will never have a clue about what "ai" even is.

i'm also not sure how much it would improve porn really. i mean if you have a weird fetish and you can't find material for that, it's maybe good? i think VR probably will (or even had) a bigger impact. a combination of ai and VR would be the crème de la crème i guess (pun intended).
Back to top
Il_Padrino




Posts: 7570
Location: Greece by the North Sea
PostPosted: Tue, 26th Sep 2023 06:11    Post subject:
I guess the best AI porn will likely be illegal, as it'll involve public figures doing hardcore stuff Very Happy not the deepfake things we already have, as those are just face replacements, but accurately following user input. And yeah, this combined with VR and I'll never get out the house again Laughing


There must have been a door there in the wall, when I came in.
Truly gone fishing.
Back to top
Shocktrooper




Posts: 4572

PostPosted: Tue, 26th Sep 2023 09:28    Post subject:
AI porn is only a piece of the puzzle. AI girlfriends are already a thing and it's only just beginning.
I guess that a sizeable proportion of men will become disillusioned with the messed up dating app market and opt for a virtual girlfriend instead.
Women somehow brought it on themselves since so many won't compromise on factors such as height, income and education status of prospective long term mates. Young women are the majority of college graduates now and outearn their male peers in some countries already so it is only going to get worse.
The thirsty, lonely men will be enticed to pay for endless AI girlfriend subscription services instead.
When robotics eventually catches up and the LLMs get functional bodies it is going to reach yet another level. Laughing
Back to top
vurt




Posts: 13847
Location: Sweden
PostPosted: Tue, 26th Sep 2023 11:40    Post subject:
We already know Japan will be first. Rich people will have AI harems.

AI girlfriend might be quite realistic when i think of it, i mean you can probably talk to her via messenger, right? So sporadically the AI gf sends you messages like "don't forget to buy toilet paper!", then it will be very similar to the bigger part of many modern relationships hehe..
maybe have it post AI selfies on Facebook and Instagram too.. your friends will be like "shit man, i'm so sorry to see your gf has 6 fingers on one hand and 4 on the other, that must suck.. she does look nice otherwise though!"
Back to top
Areius




Posts: 14860

PostPosted: Tue, 26th Sep 2023 15:17    Post subject: *****
*****


Last edited by Areius on Fri, 19th Sep 2025 16:28; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
tonizito
VIP Member



Posts: 51423
Location: Portugal, the shithole of Europe.
PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Oct 2023 20:40    Post subject:
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/09/openai-announces-dall-e-3-a-next-gen-ai-image-generator-based-on-chatgpt/
https://openai.com/dall-e-3


boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
Back to top
vurt




Posts: 13847
Location: Sweden
PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Oct 2023 04:19    Post subject:
My first test with Gausian Splatting - images to 3D model.
The quality can be improved a lot i bet, i just quickly grabbed a short video with my iphone, converted it to 50 images, trained the model. next time i'll use my DSLR camera and more images.. not too bad for 10-15 mins of work, this is a game changer for 3D Smile

Back to top
TheZor
VIP Member



Posts: 5991

PostPosted: Wed, 4th Oct 2023 21:35    Post subject:
I'm a total noob when it comes to all of this, does it actually create a model with vertices in what not - which you could easily use in Blender or whatnot, or is this more of an "illusion" of a 3D model ? It kind of looks like it !

But damn, it is very impressive. Thanks for sharing your findings Very Happy


R5 5600X - 3070FE - 16GB DDR4 3600 - Asus B550 TUF Gaming Plus - BeQuiet Straight Power 11 750W - Pure Base 500DX
Back to top
vurt




Posts: 13847
Location: Sweden
PostPosted: Wed, 4th Oct 2023 21:57    Post subject:
it's not a conventional model no, but it can still be lit differently etc from within a 3D environment.

They've already made extensions for Unity and Unreal engine to import these types of models and you can import them into Blender too. Pretty crazy how good it looks and how much detail it grabs Smile it really looks like a 1:1 copy of the photos.
Back to top
FireMaster




Posts: 13503
Location: I do not belong
PostPosted: Thu, 5th Oct 2023 03:28    Post subject:
if lit evenly during capure (no shadows in the pictures) I imagine custom lighting in 3D is not an issue.
I dabbled in 3D for a while and doing a model that detailed would take a really long forever. This thing is waaaaaay too good at saving so much time to be put aside.
Back to top
AmpegV4




Posts: 6248

PostPosted: Thu, 5th Oct 2023 05:12    Post subject:
There several useful applications here, either serving as a template for properly modelling an object, or being used as a static background for video or game.
Back to top
Frant
King's Bounty



Posts: 24645
Location: Your Mom
PostPosted: Fri, 6th Oct 2023 00:26    Post subject:


Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!

"The sky was the color of a TV tuned to a dead station" - Neuromancer
Back to top
TheZor
VIP Member



Posts: 5991

PostPosted: Fri, 6th Oct 2023 10:28    Post subject:
Cool video, thanks for the catch-up session ! Now that explains why it looked somewhat odd and fuzzy.. almost "hairy" / cottony-looking to me Razz


R5 5600X - 3070FE - 16GB DDR4 3600 - Asus B550 TUF Gaming Plus - BeQuiet Straight Power 11 750W - Pure Base 500DX
Back to top
vurt




Posts: 13847
Location: Sweden
PostPosted: Fri, 6th Oct 2023 10:31    Post subject:
Back to top
tonizito
VIP Member



Posts: 51423
Location: Portugal, the shithole of Europe.
PostPosted: Fri, 13th Oct 2023 01:45    Post subject:
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/93718/microsoft-kills-bing-chat-ai-image-generator-after-mickey-mouse-9-11-picture-surfaces/index.html

https://twitter.com/Transgenderista/status/1709979553685508322

(a no fun allowed xitter troon? No way Reaction)


boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
Back to top
Page 3 of 31 All times are GMT + 1 Hour
NFOHump.com Forum Index - General chatter Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4 ... 29, 30, 31  Next
Signature/Avatar nuking: none (can be changed in your profile)  


Display posts from previous:   

Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB 2.0.8 © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group