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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Aug 2023 15:34    Post subject:
That i can agree with. I did mod that after a while
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Aug 2023 16:05    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
I mean you are entitled to your opinion, but i find that to be horseshit. It was pretty good even vanilla.


I did not liked it one bit, friend.

Consolised experience, abysmal performance at launch, forgettable characters, simplified systems (even compared to Oblivion), regenerating HP, no more repairs, level scaling, (below) average combat etc.

But hey, it's fine.

Starfield will break all records and be considered by Geoff Keighley the best game in the galaxy.

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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Aug 2023 16:07    Post subject:
I'm just going by logic. Elder scrolls has smaller maps so it's easier to make it look good and populate it just right. When you drag in the universe and a multitude of planets then it's gonna be shit. Main story might be alright, but everything else is gonna be shit. Mark my words
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Aug 2023 16:13    Post subject:
"look good"?!

It looked horrible. Unnatural rock formations, atrocious LOD props... Christ, It was one of the ugliest game I've played (vanilla).

Bethesda should organize a 'we're-kissing-your-legs' event for it's dedicated and passionate mod creators. They transformed the looks of the game beyond recognition...

Skyrim 'won' because THERE WAS NOTHING ELSE LIKE IT on the market.


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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Aug 2023 17:13    Post subject:
I don't agree with that except for character models for example. Most open world games definitely look worse than linear ones as they render so much at the same time.
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Aug 2023 18:51    Post subject:
Seems like they’ve finally pulled their fingers out!
Game has gone gold and preloads from tomorrow for Xbox and 30th August for PC.

https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/xbox/bethesdas-starfield-goes-gold-ahead-of-launch-on-xbox-and-windows-pc

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The team at Bethesda shared on Wednesday that Starfield has gone gold, meaning the game's launch version is finalized and development is done. Physical copies of the game can now be printed, while Starfield preloads for digital players will begin on August 17 for Xbox Series X|S users, and August 30 for Windows PC players.


There is also a Q and A with two of the devs who will be answering 16 questions in the next 10 minutes apparently Very Happy


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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Aug 2023 19:47    Post subject:
Will you buy the extra special edition to get to play it 1 week earlier headshot? Even though it's on Game Pass?


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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Aug 2023 19:50    Post subject:
Of course I am and I’m guilty of preordering already Razz


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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Aug 2023 19:50    Post subject:
The derpsole version, right? Very Happy


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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Aug 2023 21:23    Post subject:
Well unfortunately for me it’s derpsole or not at all lol.
Can I say that at least its Series X and not Series S though? Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Aug 2023 22:03    Post subject:
Well it's ~30e in Argentina store which is 10 more than what I'd want it to be...I'll still get it though.


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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Aug 2023 22:12    Post subject:
raven_g20 wrote:
Well it's ~30e in Argentina store which is 10 more than what I'd want it to be...I'll still get it though.


Just buy gamepass, you can play it from there.
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Aug 2023 22:15    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
raven_g20 wrote:
Well it's ~30e in Argentina store which is 10 more than what I'd want it to be...I'll still get it though.


Just buy gamepass, you can play it from there.


wait what? I don't see it there.
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Aug 2023 22:24    Post subject:
Well its not out yet? Laughing
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cyclonefr




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Aug 2023 23:01    Post subject:
headshot wrote:
Of course I am and I’m guilty of preordering already Razz


Laughing

Just wait 1 week, people will beta test and review it before you know it!
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Aug 2023 23:10    Post subject:
Cancerpass version is skippity-skip. Can't see it supporting any type of decent modding.

raven_g20 wrote:
Well it's ~30e in Argentina store which is 10 more than what I'd want it to be...I'll still get it though.
Huh ~31€. Did the conversion a couple of weeks back and thought that it was around 40€.


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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Aug 2023 00:38    Post subject:
https://game8.co/games/Starfield/archives/421702

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・ You can buy houses in all the major cities. Some are purchased, some are rewards for quests.
・ Your Kid Stuff parents' models are based off your character model. There are set voice actors for your parents, though.
・ In character creation, you can select an "anonymous" background and no traits.
・ Some items are considered contraband, which are illegal everywhere, and will need to be smuggled past security ships orbiting major settlements.
・ Contraband is hid using special ship modules that you can purchase.
・ Economy is fixed but prices for bought and sold items can be changed with different Skills only.
・ When you're arrested, you can either go to jail, pay or fine, or resist arrest and try to escape.
・ Time passes only when playing.
・ All faction questlines can be completed independently.
・ The Crimson Fleet questline will have a mission where you are presented with the choice to be an undercover agent within the United Colonies SysDef military.
・The game will have a selection of non-lethal weapons, but whole pacifist playthrough might be difficult.
・ Persuasion challenges are specific scripted moments in most quests that have a main character confront you.
・ Starfield has 3 main religions, but other real-life religions exist within the universe.
・ House Va'runn will be a primarily antagonistic group.
・ There will be over 20 available Companions, each with their own Background. They can follow you and carry your stuff.
・ 4 Companions are from Constellation. Companions will also be tied to main quests.
・ Assigning crew members to outposts only costs a one-time payment.
・ Separate from your available Companions, there will be generic crew that you can hire for outposts and ships.
・ Companion Skills don't level up and have fixed ranks.
・ Mechs are outlawed and not usable in Starfield, but you may encounter an "old mech battleground" at some point.


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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Aug 2023 00:53    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
Huh ~31€. Did the conversion a couple of weeks back and thought that it was around 40€.


That's rampant inflation in Tangoland for you Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Aug 2023 01:05    Post subject:
cyclonefr wrote:
headshot wrote:
Of course I am and I’m guilty of preordering already Razz


Laughing

Just wait 1 week, people will beta test and review it before you know it!


I got a week off work for it lol.
Plus I’d get a severe case of FOMO Laughing


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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Aug 2023 01:11    Post subject:
I got a week off too. The early access version releases on my birthday. If it's shit... I'll attack the backlog instead
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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Aug 2023 09:38    Post subject:
raven_g20 wrote:
Well it's ~30e in Argentina store which is 10 more than what I'd want it to be...I'll still get it though.


Hold your horses men! Let the reviews pop out first.


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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Aug 2023 09:41    Post subject:
Or hold your horses until they announce denuvo! Too bad that by then the price will jump to 20000ARPesetas Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Aug 2023 10:13    Post subject:
Denuvo or nUt, hold your horse-sex, mates!

In typical Bethesda fashion, this game might be a technical disaster at launch.


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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Aug 2023 10:19    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
Denuvo or nUt, hold your horse-sex, mates!

In typical Bethesda fashion, this game might be a technical disaster at launch.


This! It can be a masterpiece or a total 30fps stutterfest and physics disaster. The horses must be held men. Save your arses!


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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Aug 2023 10:41    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
https://game8.co/games/Starfield/archives/421702

Quote:
・ You can buy houses in all the major cities. Some are purchased, some are rewards for quests.
・ Your Kid Stuff parents' models are based off your character model. There are set voice actors for your parents, though.
・ In character creation, you can select an "anonymous" background and no traits.
・ Some items are considered contraband, which are illegal everywhere, and will need to be smuggled past security ships orbiting major settlements.
・ Contraband is hid using special ship modules that you can purchase.
・ Economy is fixed but prices for bought and sold items can be changed with different Skills only.
・ When you're arrested, you can either go to jail, pay or fine, or resist arrest and try to escape.
・ Time passes only when playing.
・ All faction questlines can be completed independently.
・ The Crimson Fleet questline will have a mission where you are presented with the choice to be an undercover agent within the United Colonies SysDef military.
・The game will have a selection of non-lethal weapons, but whole pacifist playthrough might be difficult.
・ Persuasion challenges are specific scripted moments in most quests that have a main character confront you.
・ Starfield has 3 main religions, but other real-life religions exist within the universe.
・ House Va'runn will be a primarily antagonistic group.
・ There will be over 20 available Companions, each with their own Background. They can follow you and carry your stuff.
・ 4 Companions are from Constellation. Companions will also be tied to main quests.
・ Assigning crew members to outposts only costs a one-time payment.
・ Separate from your available Companions, there will be generic crew that you can hire for outposts and ships.
・ Companion Skills don't level up and have fixed ranks.
・ Mechs are outlawed and not usable in Starfield, but you may encounter an "old mech battleground" at some point.




So, basically, 99% of stuff they have in previous games (F4, Skyrim).

Absolutely nothing new, innovative, extraordinary. We've seen it all before...

So much hype created with major bullshit. Rolling Eyes

EDIT ---

So many questions still stand:

blackeyedboy wrote:


• can you manually take your ship into an atmosphere and land?
• can you manually fly your ship over the surface of a planet?
• are there any other vehicles that you can use to move around?
• how vast is the space around those planets / how much space can you explore?
• how big are (the spaces from) the planets that you land on?
• is there ANY (at all) challenge in this game?
• can you fail?
• can you die?
• can you have romances and sex them up?
• can you run out of oxygen?
• can you die from planet hazards?
• is this game as streamlined as Skyrim?
• will it have a Survival mode like Fallout 4?
• will the monsters and creatures level up with you / will it have level scaling?
• can you play the game offline?
• are the frame-drops a sign of CPU or GPU limitations?
• why is my mother-in-law so annoying?
• who the fuck is Alice?


And more...


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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Aug 2023 11:22    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
Denuvo or nUt, hold your horse-sex, mates!

In typical Bethesda fashion, this game might be a technical disaster at launch.


I refuse to believe it Razz


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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Aug 2023 12:04    Post subject:
I want to believe that it won't, friend.

But we've all been decided too many times...


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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Aug 2023 16:18    Post subject:
Since its using "upgraded" gamebryo engine, its safe to say it will be technical disaster Laughing, but in space physics can get wonky Cool Face
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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Aug 2023 17:01    Post subject:
Preload up in the PC Xbox game pass.
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