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Amadeus




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PostPosted: Sat, 14th May 2022 12:39    Post subject:
AmpegV4 wrote:
Yep standard fare,
NVIDIA proprietary gimmick $$$ sells cards to gamers that must have RTX/DTSS/DURR
AMD opensource the tech that gets adopted world-wide and used everywhere.
NVIDIA release new proprietary gimmick for next iteration of cards.
The cycle continues.


Heh, it's funny that fanboys always call these features "gimmicks" until their vendor adopts them.

Then it's a great open source technology that should be used in everything. Like it still is with raytracing.

Because raytracing performs comparably poorly on AMD cards it's still just a gimmick to them.

Can't wait for FSR 2.0 to arrive in such bangers as.. let me look at the list for the coming months again

Farming Simulator 22
EVE Online
Swordsman Remake
NiShuiHan???

while the proprietary Nvidia gimmick is in over 150 games already



Definitely not as good as I expected, especially the quality.

Breezer_ wrote:
Since it will work on consoles aswell, developers will definitely use it, should be fairly easy task swell.


Depends on the game.

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Developer support will be the biggest challenge for AMD I'm sure. While implementing FSR 1.0 is trivial—it's basically an additional shader pass—FSR 2.0 has more serious requirements that are basically identical to DLSS 2.0. For developers that already support DLSS 2.0, adding FSR 2.0 support will be easy, AMD talks about days. The Motion vectors are the biggest challenge here


which can then make it take weeks to implement.
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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Sat, 14th May 2022 12:58    Post subject:
the last thing u want is like some human cherrypicked handtweaked stuff, cause that means if those humans dont give a rats ass about ur fav game or get fired, ur fucked with ur expensive card not doing stuff on that old fav game u love playing, as with every new patch it probably needs recertifacation n checking and all these games nowadays patching like crazy to sell more dlc n ingame store shit Sad
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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Sat, 14th May 2022 15:27    Post subject:
Sounds that FSR 2.0 hit Amadeus straight into feels, how so?
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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Sat, 14th May 2022 16:14    Post subject:
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/05/480-hz-desktop-laptop-displays-teased-by-pc-panel-pusher-auo/

480hrz , 4k ... well... so they need to go from 100 fps to 500 fps in5 years ... good luck roflol

id be suprized if they can make 120fps stable 1% lows happen any time soon
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escalibur




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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2022 14:29    Post subject:
https://wccftech.com/alleged-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-ti-founders-edition-graphics-card-cooler-pictured-huge-heatsink-gpu-memory-baseplate/



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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2022 17:23    Post subject:
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0wen




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2022 04:28    Post subject:
The 30 Series FE cards were already heavy like a brick, I can just imagine how much heavier these new cards will be. Vertical mounting will probably get more popular with these new monsters.
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AmpegV4




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2022 07:54    Post subject:
I reckon consoles will get popular when the price of these new monsters release. Especially when games like eldenring run worse with any GPU than a ps5.
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th May 2022 15:19    Post subject:
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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd May 2022 21:33    Post subject:
I got 3080 FE on release and I like how small it is... I mean it is still huge but not stupidly so like aib cards.
But the boy is so heavy and dense. And there is absolutely no sag


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd May 2022 22:11    Post subject:
escalibur wrote:
https://wccftech.com/alleged-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-ti-founders-edition-graphics-card-cooler-pictured-huge-heatsink-gpu-memory-baseplate/



There is even less point in getting Nvidia if they're overpriced compared to AMD. Most new games got the dreaded AMD logo at startup.
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th May 2022 08:17    Post subject:




1080p Reaction
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tonizito
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th May 2022 10:00    Post subject:
Guess e-sports make quite a bit of $$$$ then, but a vast majority of people could give less of a fuck to playing a game (especially an "ahnline" hero shooter like valorant, overwatch 1,2 or 5) at 500Hz.
Everything else is just meh, derpman 3 still looks subpar even with RTX, reflex is for previously mentioned "ahnline" shooters.
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konkol84




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th May 2022 12:00    Post subject:
They are marketing 500hz over 144 exactly the same like they marketed 144 over 60


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PostPosted: Tue, 24th May 2022 12:55    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC7mT7QqOAA

The shit game they chose doesn't even update effects at 500hz. Laughing You can see that the character is moving smoothly, but the smoke behind it updates at much, much lower framerate. But don't let details ruin it for espurrt morons.
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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th May 2022 08:57    Post subject:
Can you even see the difference anymore, like lets say 240 vs 500 (unless you slow down your gameplay by 1000% and watch it with magnifying glass), if you can, I doubt its anywhere near like 60hz vs 120hz/144hz.
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AmpegV4




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th May 2022 09:31    Post subject:
Nope, diminishing returns with high hz.

Still call it NVIDIA RapidVisionFX Approved Monitor and derp bros will throw money at it and claim its game changing.
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MightyMan




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PostPosted: Mon, 30th May 2022 22:48    Post subject:
I just won a 3080 FTW3 from a ticket i bought for 49p!!!
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PostPosted: Mon, 30th May 2022 22:57    Post subject:
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0wen




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PostPosted: Tue, 31st May 2022 09:26    Post subject:
MightyMan wrote:
I just won a 3080 FTW3 from a ticket i bought for 49p!!!


That sounds like those Ebay auctions around the holidays when people buy a picture of the item or the empty box because they did not actually read the description. Good score though if you get a legit working card.
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escalibur




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PostPosted: Tue, 31st May 2022 16:07    Post subject:
Moar rumours: https://videocardz.com/newz/rumor-nvidia-plans-to-launch-geforce-rtx-4090-in-august-rtx-4080-in-september-and-rtx-4070-in-october


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0wen




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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Jun 2022 05:29    Post subject:
If that is true, I wonder if they are doing it that way so the bad binned 4090s would become 4080s and the same with the 4080s would become 4070s. Plus it would get people to spend more as many will want to get the newest card right away and not wait a few months after probably skipping the 30 series just due to the Pandemic pricing.
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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Jun 2022 07:30    Post subject:
Its all marketing.

(Says the guy who bought a 6900XT for 1000€ last year)


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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Jun 2022 13:34    Post subject:
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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Jun 2022 15:24    Post subject:
goddamn, and i still cant get any budget rdna2 laptops here cause steamdeck probably got all the chips first pfft

guess ill wait a tad bit longer, sounds very promising
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AnarchoS




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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Jun 2022 12:44    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
escalibur wrote:
https://wccftech.com/alleged-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-ti-founders-edition-graphics-card-cooler-pictured-huge-heatsink-gpu-memory-baseplate/



There is even less point in getting Nvidia if they're overpriced compared to AMD. Most new games got the dreaded AMD logo at startup.


So what a 5-6 slot card? Laughing
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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Jun 2022 13:31    Post subject:
That is what you get in the box for 2000 dollars, GPU pcb will be sold separately.
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Amadeus




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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2022 12:38    Post subject:
Price drops are steep

You can get a used 3090 for 1200-1300 bucks easy

A used 3080 for under 800


Don't buy tho, they will keep dropping prices as crypto falls and as the new GPUs release
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escalibur




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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2022 14:59    Post subject:
Amadeus wrote:
Price drops are steep

You can get a used 3090 for 1200-1300 bucks easy

A used 3080 for under 800


Don't buy tho, they will keep dropping prices as crypto falls and as the new GPUs release


Yesterday someone was selling 3080 for 550€ at pickup. Smile Solid price for beefy performance as long as you are not in hunt for high FPS at 4K at the maximum settings.


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