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zTurbo




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PostPosted: Sun, 15th Aug 2021 16:10    Post subject:
paxsali wrote:
Frant wrote:
Still 2x too expensive.


Is it tho? I don't think so.

You're saying a 3070 Ti *should* cost about 450€???


why not?! is it anything special?!

At $499 (about £395, AU$720), with much improved performance, the Nvidia GeForce RTX 2070 Super offers a much better value than Nvidia Turing did at launch.

i dream about this:

When can we expect quantum computers?

Studies have already predicted that quantum computing will become a multibillion-dollar quantum industry as early as 2030. In fact, quantum computing and quantum communication are poised to have a transformative effect across a multitude of industries, ranging from healthcare and energy to finance and security.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesbusinessdevelopmentcouncil/2021/04/28/when-will-quantum-computers-impact-our-day-to-day/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_quantum_computing_and_communication
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highfe




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PostPosted: Sun, 15th Aug 2021 18:49    Post subject:
the recommended retail price of the rtx3070 was 500€ for the founders edition, how on earth should a custom model be even cheaper?
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couleur
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Aug 2021 08:20    Post subject:
Well, I just sold my Vega 64 for 420€ to some miner which is 20€ more than I paid for it. But I left the Morpheus Cooler on, so I lost like 50€. After 3 years of sometimes heavy usage, I'd say 50€ is not much of a loss.

Now the 1060 3GB I have in my htpc will have to do until I find something else.

No gaming at the moment either anyway so I can wait.


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DaLexy




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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Aug 2021 11:41    Post subject:
My Card came yesterday and my god, its a beast and eats graphic settings like snacks. Control looks really nice but if i had to choose between Paytracing and not i would say keep it, no must have but nice to have. DLSS on the other hand is something you dont wanna miss, you cant see it but even on 4K you can crank your game up and its still running like a god.


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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Aug 2021 19:32    Post subject:
I have to admit I find RTX rather underwhelming overall, devs have come so far with alternative solutions and pre-baked lighting that RTX manages to do.. just as well, not exceptionally better - it's not surprising and doesn't make the technical achievement any less impressive, but for the end user.. I don't know. It only really shines with reflections hence the metric ton of "wet road at night" screenshots, since you can barely make the difference out versus non-RTX without it.

Had a good impression of DLSS but its implementation in RDR2, pretty much the only game I have the use for it (bar CP2077, in which you just can't play on 1080p+ without it), was very disappointing to me. It just looks terrible as soon as your view moves and I didn't get used to it - I tried. It can apparently be optimized by using more recent DLSS dlls and using various control panel settings.. well, I'll just go with native resolution and a couple options turned on medium.

All in all, wouldn't have missed much with an AMD card at this moment, I'll see what the future holds for RTX and DLSS.


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DaLexy




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Aug 2021 12:18    Post subject:
Yeah exactly what i thought. When i started Control - it looked nice but i have seen stuff like that being done with Screenspace Reflections and was like "it looks nice, but paying Premium just for that !?"

Apart from that this card hauls some sweet ass perfromance wise.

Now i wait for Stalker and see how that works out. Waiting for the sequel since Clear Sky.


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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Aug 2021 12:27    Post subject:
DaLexy wrote:
Waiting for the sequel since Clear Sky.


You mean Call of Pripyat?
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escalibur




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Aug 2021 08:53    Post subject:
https://uk.pcmag.com/graphics-cards/135143/nvidia-gpu-supplies-to-remain-constrained-for-vast-majority-of-2022


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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Aug 2021 10:00    Post subject:
escalibur wrote:
https://uk.pcmag.com/graphics-cards/135143/nvidia-gpu-supplies-to-remain-constrained-for-vast-majority-of-2022
Right, right it's the "gamers" fault. Didn't know that huang had turned into a game-journo wokémon Laughing
Hope this shit bites them in the ass but who are we kidding? They made tons of money due to the crypto fever and still hope they can make more, so no way they'll ever acknowledge how that didn't help with the fucked up GPU market.


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i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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StrEagle




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Aug 2021 10:20    Post subject:
looks like pretty good in stock here Rolling Eyes
although prices are still at around 150%
I bought my 3080 for 900eur, now it's 1300eur



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escalibur




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Aug 2021 10:21    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
escalibur wrote:
https://uk.pcmag.com/graphics-cards/135143/nvidia-gpu-supplies-to-remain-constrained-for-vast-majority-of-2022
Right, right it's the "gamers" fault. Didn't know that huang had turned into a game-journo wokémon Laughing
Hope this shit bites them in the ass but who are we kidding? They made tons of money due to the crypto fever and still hope they can make more, so no way they'll ever acknowledge how that didn't help with the fucked up GPU market.


I wouldn’t even blame them for this. They are here to make as much money as possible, no matter what. Situation is also shit for not having proper competition.


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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Aug 2021 11:17    Post subject:
Nah, they know miners will eat the price hikes much more easily than gamers, so IMO that's one of the reasons they're "shifting" the blame onto gamers.

Regarding the low availability well, it's commonly known that when you buy a GPU for your gaming PC that you'll usually buy another spare... or 5 or 9, all at once.
The shortages have nothing to do with miners ofc


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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Aug 2021 19:01    Post subject:


what a load of horse shit, 1080 is not that unsharp as they make it look like, it looks like 480p, maybe because they did it on a 4k monitor and stretched it out ??

eitherway upscaling will be the future for now i guess, but holy fuck how they trying to sell it is sooo lame
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zTurbo




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Aug 2021 19:11    Post subject:
for 1080 to look like that they had to be doing something wrong for sure, like playing it on a 4k screen i guess it would do it.
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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Aug 2021 16:20    Post subject:
gpu manufacturers are cocksuckers ...

https://wccftech.com/sapphire-radeon-rx-570-duo-dual-amd-polaris-mining-graphics-card-pictured/

there is a shortage, but we will put TWO gpus on a card for mining only

miner COCKSUCKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i hope they get stds

850 usd Rolling Eyes
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Aug 2021 20:17    Post subject:
Got my 3090 for tge price people buy 3080 so im happy Cool
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escalibur




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Aug 2021 20:59    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
Got my 3090 for tge price people buy 3080 so im happy Cool


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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Aug 2021 21:41    Post subject:
Nahh, much less. 1.8k or something


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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Aug 2021 22:29    Post subject:
PickupArtist wrote:
gpu manufacturers are cocksuckers ...

https://wccftech.com/sapphire-radeon-rx-570-duo-dual-amd-polaris-mining-graphics-card-pictured/

there is a shortage, but we will put TWO gpus on a card for mining only

miner COCKSUCKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i hope they get stds

850 usd Rolling Eyes


Its RX 570, they have probably too much those low end chips.
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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2021 06:47    Post subject:
Got my 3090 cheap as chips ages ago Laughing Wink
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2021 13:12    Post subject:
scaramonga wrote:
Got my 3090 cheap as chips ages ago Laughing Wink


That's amazing!
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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2021 21:03    Post subject:
Amadeus wrote:


That's amazing!


It is by today's standards Laughing Wink
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AmpegV4




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2021 06:59    Post subject:
wtf is going on Laughing I got asked to build a PC for flight sim 2020 for someone and just looking at the prices its fucking ridiculous.

I paid less for my 3080 than a 3060 at todays prices, might just say don't bother its just not worth it.



so they basically asking for luxury car prices for a high performance PC (with no decent games btw) these days.. so console really is the only logical choice then for value.
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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2021 14:26    Post subject:
he can play flight sim on xbox s for 300 eur ...

u have to be a complete muffin to spend 4 digits on a gaming computer these days
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2021 15:33    Post subject:
he could buy a plane instead


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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2021 16:44    Post subject:
Nui wrote:
he could buy a plane instead


All the fans inside the computer might sound like one. Smile


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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2021 16:52    Post subject:
Nui wrote:
he could buy a plane instead


Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2021 16:54    Post subject:
scaramonga wrote:
Amadeus wrote:


That's amazing!


It is by today's standards Laughing Wink


Still rocking that 1080p monitor with it? Wink
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2021 17:22    Post subject:
Nui wrote:
he could buy a plane instead

For 4k? Not even from a scrapheap Razz


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zTurbo




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2021 17:50    Post subject:
at these absurd prices gonna end up with a trash APU at least no bother with the gpu Razz
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