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PredOborG




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PostPosted: Tue, 4th May 2021 14:19    Post subject:
Ok. Calculated the correct new users to EGS from all these 38 games above. Almost 5 million from the total of 104 million claims. So if 7% from those 5 millions (almost 350 000) have spent average of $10, that means Epic got $3.5 millions from them at the very least. To get even with the money Epic payed for the free games, then each of those 350 000 had to spend average of $33 which is possible. Most likely tho they spend much more with multiple games and DLC purchases.

To summarize - even if only 7% from the new users spend money EPIC potentially still made profit. Even if this is old data and there are more than 150 other free games since then.
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PostPosted: Tue, 4th May 2021 14:19    Post subject:
fortnite must have peaked by now Sad i hope , ugh such a shit game, then again i see more and more people playing pubg mobile too, like wtf, and they aint even cheating using a mouse and keyboard, they literally playing on a ipad with their hands on the touchscreen wtf .... m,ental
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PostPosted: Tue, 4th May 2021 14:22    Post subject:
PredOborG wrote:
Ok. Calculated the correct new users to EGS from all these 38 games above. Almost 5 million from the total of 104 million claims. So if 7% from those 5 millions (almost 350 000) have spent average of $10, that means Epic got $3.5 millions from them at the very least. To get even with the money Epic payed for the free games, then each of those 350 000 had to spend average of $33 which is possible. Most likely tho they spend much more with multiple games and DLC purchases.

To summarize - even if only 7% from the new users spend money EPIC potentially still made profit. Even if this is old data and there are more than 150 other free games since then.


dont forget they gave out everyone each year a 10 usd discount coupon

so u must cut those numbers in half minimum , possibly divide by ten even Very Happy

i never ended up using my two coupons , it would have been on games that gonna be free eventually anyway Twisted Evil
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dont forget they gave out everyone each year a 10 usd discount coupon

so u must cut those numbers in half minimum , possibly divide by ten even Very Happy

i never ended up using mine, it would have been on games that gonna be free eventually anyway Twisted Evil


That $10 coupon had to be used on a $15+ game or DLC. Even if all of those 350 000 people used the coupons only for $15 that'd be 1.7 mils. Anyway, looking how EPIC continue using this practice, they sure have some positives from it.
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PostPosted: Tue, 4th May 2021 14:59    Post subject:
Are they still pushing transaction fees on the customer instead of covering them like Valve does?


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PostPosted: Tue, 4th May 2021 15:33    Post subject:
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"highly confidential , atterney eyes only"

yay im now an attorney Very Happy

but dont act like steam is all good guys, steam is the reason gameprices in stead of dropping by 40-50% due to no shipping and retail costs, stayed the same while they pocketed the entire savings that was supposed to go to gamers for giving up their rights of ownership and full retail gameboxes and manuals

the fact bandwith now costs 1/1000 of what it cost twenty years ago , makes steam even worse atm still taking a 30% cut, and now obviously they say , its the price to pay for reaching their store audience

but what they did with their billions, is unforgiveble ... they just sat on it and didnt do anything good with it these last 10 years almost ... sure they tried some stuff , but just look how they just dumped their cardgame ... zero honor, pure bottem line company

very glad epic is stealing marketshare from lazy valve


funny how steam is lazy while trying:
steam box, steam controller, steam link,steam index vr thingy
on the client side:
linux support, steam link streaming software, remoteplay, family share etc.
prolly would come up with much more if id think about it.

what did uplay, epic,origin and msstore do, oh right they dont even have a good search function or categorization and some of em are busy with fighting the good fight (lootboxes, suing a apple for a higher share etc.)

sure valve dropped the ball in regards of their games but dont forget that epic was/is a game dev too. they shat on their old fanchises UT etc. and are only doing fortnite.

epic isnt the good guy as you see from the shown leaked documents.
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PostPosted: Tue, 4th May 2021 16:39    Post subject:
im saying there is no good guys Wink

we all getting shafted by people who want a big cut for doing fuck all

maybe gog , but for how long Sad
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PostPosted: Tue, 4th May 2021 17:04    Post subject:
the cut means jackshit ... thats just PR line for developers ... wont change a single thing for us customers

Just look how jurnous are going all in alongside the epic marketing about the "cut thing" .... while not a single one of those mentions that keys are free to generate on steam. (which is ultimately what allows all them GMGs, Humbles, Voidus to thrive and offer smaller prices)


also lolo at this

https://twitter.com/LeaderGrev/status/1389396900206551043

Epic is suddently fine with 30% rate because the console companies highlighte the game, which is a big revenue driver. Very Happy


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PostPosted: Tue, 4th May 2021 18:50    Post subject:
prudislav wrote:

Just look how jurnous are going all in alongside the epic marketing about the "cut thing" .... while not a single one of those mentions that keys are free to generate on steam. (which is ultimately what allows all them GMGs, Humbles, Voidus to thrive and offer smaller prices)


Steam used to give free keys to devs without question but 3-4 years ago they made a limit of 1000 keys because some scum devs were cutting Valve and selling their games on their own sites. Now, if you are a dev and want more than 1k keys, you have to make a request via the Dev Portal to Steam Support. They may still give 10-20 keys without question but for a bigger batch they will ask you why. Which is why Humble and those other sites don't have those awesome bundles from the "Golden Age of Bundles" and mostly have older games.

Now about Epic I am not sure what's their system but just recently the devs of the game Scavengers made a big "giveaway" where they gave a code to anyone who watched a Twitch stream of the game for 30 mins. Those codes were all redeemed on EGS and probably a total tens of thousands were given. And some sites sell Epic keys too.
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Okay now we’re getting somewhere significant. Epic’s lawyer asks Sweeney why paltform fees are existential crisis for Fortnite.

Sweeney says it’s because longterm goal is to “open up Fortnite as a platform for creators,” name-dropping the metaverse again.

Epic’s goal is to turn Fortnite into a real-life Ready Player One, and it can’t do that if one of the major platforms it’s on restricts how it can monetize, in Sweeney’s explanation.

https://twitter.com/nickstatt/status/1389642769606627329

so much for the "one true saviour" of them poor baby devs
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Hmmm. Epic’s lawyer asks Sweeney, “If Apple told you the deal would only be with you and no other developers,” referencing a carve-out for lower App Store commission, “would you have accepted that deal?”

"Yes I would have,” Sweeney says.

https://twitter.com/nickstatt/status/1389644367846121476


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PostPosted: Thu, 13th May 2021 18:54    Post subject:
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There's something intuitively appealing to the idea of game publishers trying to attract more market share by "passing on the savings" of lower storefront commissions by lowering the asking price for their games. In practice, though, prices for the same title tend to remain consistent across platforms, regardless of the competing platform holders' specific revenue cuts.

isnt that like what we all been saying since EGS appeared? While all them jurnous been wanking Tim's dick and claiming it will all trickle down ... ( including the author of this article who is reseteras klnown steamhater)


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PostPosted: Fri, 14th May 2021 05:59    Post subject:
It is all just juggling numbers around. If you re-arrange said numbers they look new and different. But in the end, customer still pays for everything because he is a dumb sheep.
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This guy always gave me some mild uncanny-valley vibes. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon, 31st May 2021 22:24    Post subject:
sooo, how to play one of those free games without the launcher bullshit? Surprised
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PostPosted: Mon, 31st May 2021 23:47    Post subject:
Rea thread I've mentioned it multipletimes
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jun 2021 08:35    Post subject:
Watch out Todd, there is a new guy in town
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jun 2021 09:15    Post subject:
Civ01 wrote:
Watch out Todd, there is a new guy in town


Todd at least has some natural charisma and seems like he'd be a pretty cool guy to have a drink with.

Tim would probably just talk about how great he is for an hour straight.
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jun 2021 09:24    Post subject:
^ really... ?!

What if it's exactly the other way around?!


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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jun 2021 10:15    Post subject:
Not revealed atm but supposedly todays free game is Frostpunk
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jun 2021 12:01    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
^ really... ?!

What if it's exactly the other way around?!


I've never seen Todd compare anything he's done to the civil rights movement. Tim on the other hand...

Worst thing is that Tim's ego actually seems to be big enough that he genuinely believes his own bullshit.
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jun 2021 13:36    Post subject:
They both (always) display only their marketing / public face aka the 'bullshit mask'.

There's a chance that over a friendly, chilled drink they both might be decent, nice human beings.

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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Jul 2021 11:35    Post subject:
'Shopping cart' coming to EGS?!

What for?

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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Jul 2021 11:36    Post subject:
so you can claim 2 free games at the same time Laughing


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