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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Apr 2021 12:31    Post subject:
lametta wrote:
blackeyedboy wrote:
They have something more valuable than money: data.

And in today's corporate world it ain't about money anymore. Most corporations are so rich that their focus in now on something else.

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Hey, it's okay to not get it. Wink

lametta wrote:
still gonna grab those free games which ill probably never play Very Happy


You know you are acting like a sheep, don't you?


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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Apr 2021 12:40    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
lametta wrote:
blackeyedboy wrote:
They have something more valuable than money: data.

And in today's corporate world it ain't about money anymore. Most corporations are so rich that their focus in now on something else.

wat Confused


Hey, it's okay to not get it. Wink

lametta wrote:
still gonna grab those free games which ill probably never play Very Happy


You know you are acting like a sheep, don't you?


the "wat" wasn't implying my lack of understanding but you making no sense.


Why? every game i get fro free is -money for epic.
https://www.pcgamer.com/epic-games-store-exclusives-apple-lawsuit/
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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Apr 2021 12:51    Post subject:
Well, you are one of those people that rush into getting so called free shit that you will never use.

So, it's understandable from you. Have a nice day!


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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Apr 2021 12:56    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
Well, you are one of those people that rush into getting so called free shit that you will never use.

So, it's understandable from you. Have a nice day!

thanks, have a nice day as well Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Apr 2021 13:00    Post subject:
Thank you. Appreciated!


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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Apr 2021 13:57    Post subject:
Lawl, People still mad at Epic and Sweeny ?

Seriously calm your tits and get over it, EGS wont vanish and has the same place like all the others (Origin, Uplay, GOG).


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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Apr 2021 14:34    Post subject:
DaLexy wrote:
Lawl, People still mad at Epic and Sweeny ?

Seriously calm your tits and get over it, EGS wont vanish and has the same place like all the others (Origin, Uplay, GOG).

it's just a minority. people were liked that when steam got released and still these days you can find some people on forums, which still hold on to only disk games and cry about steam. so they never fully go away, but the crying and bitching will get less and less over time. just ignore it
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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Apr 2021 15:41    Post subject:
i would argue against that. even origin to this day isnt that established.

if not for their whale trap games ea would be in a bad place right now.
besides the fact that the greediest company a.k.a. ea did come back crawling to steam. if origin was that succesfull after all these years they wouldnt need steam or an ea origin pass.

if not for fortnite what does egs actually offer?
how many games did you freiwald or dalexy really buy from egs?(compare that number to the games you bought on steam if you even did buy any from egs..)
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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Apr 2021 16:34    Post subject:
i don't play that much anymore. last year i bought resident evil 3 on steam and tony hawk on epic. i don't care anymore if the game is on steam, epic, uplay, origin, or anything else.

if i still would use steam for chatting and friends and maybe even collecting games, then sure i would be pissed, but only cause i would know that i can't have it on mostly one platform anymore, cause epic won't give up and things are changing. other then that i see no reason to be pissed. i don't care who will get my data, cause one of them is getting it anyway if i want to buy and play a game.
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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Apr 2021 17:08    Post subject:
freiwald wrote:
... i don't care who will get my data...


I do care what happens with my data.

Does that make me a bitching, crying antagonist?!

I used to be an adventurer that liked these forums due to the awareness most people displayed here. /sigh... I guess it's just the nature of things to see how "change" goes in all directions: lower, forwards, backwards...


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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Apr 2021 18:42    Post subject:
Epic vs. Apple/Google
Documents and testimony from Epic itself show a $181 million loss for the store in 2019 and projected losses of $273 million in 2020 and $139 million in 2021.

now thats a lot of money gone poof , wonder how much longer they can sustain that. And with no more big exclusives in sight ?

xbox game pass will cream them
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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Apr 2021 22:04    Post subject:
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now thats a lot of money gone poof , wonder how much longer they can sustain that. And with no more big exclusives in sight ?

as long as fartnite brings them this kind of money back every few days ,,,, they can do it forever

BTW: what the fuck is next weeks free game Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Tue, 4th May 2021 04:00    Post subject:
very low cost of acquiring a new customer with around 1 buck, but a ton of those new accounts + are all bots grabbing copies to resell lol
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PostPosted: Tue, 4th May 2021 08:18    Post subject:
lametta wrote:
https://mobile.twitter.com/simoncarless/status/1389297530341519362

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The saviors of developers right there! Laughing
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they planned everything Very Happy



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PostPosted: Tue, 4th May 2021 09:47    Post subject:
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they planned everything Very Happy


Thought that was well known from the fact they had their silly PR video ready to drop the instant hostilities with Apple were declared.

I guess that stuff is further proof though.
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PostPosted: Tue, 4th May 2021 10:39    Post subject:
this trial is giving some interesting data

Money


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PostPosted: Tue, 4th May 2021 11:34    Post subject:
Nodrim wrote:
www.dsogaming.com/news/numerous-buyout-prices-for-epics-free-egs-games-program-have-leaked


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According to some leaked court documents, 7% of users who claimed a free game on Epic Games Store purchased something after that. This shows that a large number of EGS owners are simply using the store for its free games and nothing more.


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This is the reason why I posted the article. Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Tue, 4th May 2021 12:50    Post subject:
This lawsuit is uncovering fascinating shit


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PostPosted: Tue, 4th May 2021 13:05    Post subject:
EGS profit $233 mln, cost $465 mln. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 4th May 2021 13:24    Post subject:
Nodrim wrote:
This is the reason why I posted the article. Mr. Green


I am one of them. Haven't spent a single dime and "catched" all freebies except the first one. Laughing

But they still made a lot more profit from this.
Below is a leaked chart of the money they gave to the first 38 games and the users who claimed them. If it's correct in total they payed $11.6 millions for these free games. According to this document they got more than 104 million claims.

And not counting the huge investments they got from Tencent and other shareholders when they see the number of users on the platform.

EDIT: Fk. It's not 104 million new users. They are lot less but have to calculate them for each game based on the % new users for each one.... BRB making the correct calculations. Sad

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PostPosted: Tue, 4th May 2021 13:28    Post subject:
To me it's a win-win. Epic gets users -> Happy. Devs get paid for the right to offer their games as freebies -> Happy. Users can get free games if they want to -> Happy.
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PostPosted: Tue, 4th May 2021 13:59    Post subject:
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To me it's a win-win. Epic gets users -> Happy. Devs get paid for the right to offer their games as freebies -> Happy. Users can get free games if they want to -> Happy.

i'm perfectly happy to get games for free of course, but this is a short term strategy at best, and entirely at the expense of the value of gaming itself.
last thing i want to see happen is games devaluing until we are all playing mobile games because everyone just wants free/gaas games. epic are throwing gaming under a bus to 'compete' with steam, and i'm glad to see it is burning a small hole in their pocket if nothing else.
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PostPosted: Tue, 4th May 2021 14:09    Post subject:
"highly confidential , atterney eyes only"

yay im now an attorney Very Happy

but dont act like steam is all good guys, steam is the reason gameprices in stead of dropping by 40-50% due to no shipping and retail costs, stayed the same while they pocketed the entire savings that was supposed to go to gamers for giving up their rights of ownership and full retail gameboxes and manuals

the fact bandwith now costs 1/1000 of what it cost twenty years ago , makes steam even worse atm still taking a 30% cut, and now obviously they say , its the price to pay for reaching their store audience

but what they did with their billions, is unforgiveble ... they just sat on it and didnt do anything good with it these last 10 years almost ... sure they tried some stuff , but just look how they just dumped their cardgame ... zero honor, pure bottem line company

very glad epic is stealing marketshare from lazy valve


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PostPosted: Tue, 4th May 2021 14:17    Post subject:
when fornite brings them 3 billions ... they can burn 200mil on EGS for years





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