The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
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Accelleron




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Feb 2006 02:34    Post subject:
I'm going a bit offtopic here, but some ppl are more comfortable with keyboard/mouse, others with a gamepad. Live and let live, if someone likes the $250 xbox more, power to them. If someone prefers to shell $4k on a balls-out top-end PC, once again more power to them. It's a matter of development, as there are great games on both platforms.

It's easy to see that Oblivion has gotten the UI penis over being a 360 title (the conversation interface, for example) but even so, the devs managed to do a great job of compensating for that by making all dialogue voiced over. The game's not even out yet, I don't know why you're bitching about which platform it will be better on.


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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Feb 2006 03:11    Post subject:
Accelleron wrote:
I'm going a bit offtopic here, but some ppl are more comfortable with keyboard/mouse, others with a gamepad. Live and let live, if someone likes the $250 xbox more, power to them. If someone prefers to shell $4k on a balls-out top-end PC, once again more power to them. It's a matter of development, as there are great games on both platforms.

It's easy to see that Oblivion has gotten the UI penis over being a 360 title (the conversation interface, for example) but even so, the devs managed to do a great job of compensating for that by making all dialogue voiced over. The game's not even out yet, I don't know why you're bitching about which platform it will be better on.


I agree, but who the hell shells outs 4K on a PC? You'd have to buy each part twice to get this sum... Well apart from Alienware-buyers maybe Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Feb 2006 03:28    Post subject:
Does that new dell thats suppose to be godlike cost 4k? Its got the most advanced graphics in a personal computer, i think thats what it said.

But im looking forward to oblivion and the challenge of getting it to run without murdering my system like jason murders his victims Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Feb 2006 03:53    Post subject:
I think history has shown us that games developed for both PC and Console turn out to be less than stellar on the PC, unless they bother to actually do something different with the PC development, straight ports suck.
So while the game isn't out yet, there is nothing to indicate that anyone should have an optimistic view of this.

PCs and Consoles play differently and releasing identical games for them is rarely a good thing.


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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Feb 2006 04:31    Post subject:
crossmr wrote:
I think history has shown us that games developed for both PC and Console turn out to be less than stellar on the PC, unless they bother to actually do something different with the PC development, straight ports suck.
So while the game isn't out yet, there is nothing to indicate that anyone should have an optimistic view of this.

PCs and Consoles play differently and releasing identical games for them is rarely a good thing.


Call of duty 2 was great.


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Hfric




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Feb 2006 12:04    Post subject:
anyway i wonder HOW many load screens will i see when i will travel from one town to the other


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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Feb 2006 12:10    Post subject:
I read there were plenty whilst roaming the open Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Feb 2006 12:44    Post subject:
This topic gives a new definition to the term 'off-topic'. O.o


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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Feb 2006 12:53    Post subject:
what?! there are loading screens while wandering through the forest??
oh well that sux
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Hfric




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Feb 2006 13:02    Post subject:
LastRite wrote:
I read there were plenty whilst roaming the open Crying or Very sad

Very Happy thats the pain of X-box 360 Razz , becoz in pc you can buy more ram Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Feb 2006 13:55    Post subject:
Parallax_ wrote:
This topic gives a new definition to the term 'off-topic'. O.o


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immylatus




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Feb 2006 14:09    Post subject:
Ya so anyway other than the fact the xbox 360 isn't worth the time it takes to piss on it (just kidding)..

There are a ton of new interviews up about the game and some good podcasts..

For those too lazy to find them..
http://media.pc.ign.com/media/702/702491/vids_1.html
http://www.gamingnexus.com/Default.aspx?Section=Article&I=1008
http://www.gamerswithjobs.com/node/22390
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/theelderscrollsivoblivion/news.html?sid=6144925
http://www.gamersmark.com/news/2006/02/1/7460
http://www.gamersteve.com

There are more as well, but they're pretty much the same. These come from the open sessions Bethseda had with gaming media.

PS, The first link is actually some new video...the Arena clip gave me a woody
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gold24




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Feb 2006 14:15    Post subject: the clone is spreading like fire..
just noticed the clone stoned which i dont know if its a fake or not yet but its all over the networks wonder if someone manged to get a leak of the game or something like that..
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Feb 2006 14:17    Post subject: Re: the clone is spreading like fire..
gold24 wrote:
just noticed the clone stoned which i dont know if its a fake or not yet but its all over the networks wonder if someone manged to get a leak of the game or something like that..


its fake

The Elder Scrolls 3: Obliviion -Alcohol.Clone-ST0N3D

because the elder scrolls 3 is called morrowind.
and oblivion is called: The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion so that's elderscrolls 4

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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Feb 2006 14:32    Post subject:
Interesting : there is at the moment a technical discussion on the official elder scrolls forum about the gfx options in Oblivion. It is said that even the high-end Nvidia cards (7800gt/gtx) will not be able to run the HDR option with AA activated in the same time (where some ATI card will be able to do it, maybe the x1800xt or x1900xt ).

It seems that iit is linked to a hardware issue (same hardware part used for the 2 functionnalities) for the Nvidia cards.

Is anyone aware of that ? (i would be very sad if i can't run Oblivion at max settings HDR & AA with my 7800gtx's Crying or Very sad ?)
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Feb 2006 14:41    Post subject:
Wow that would suck if you couldn't run HDR and AA with a 7800GTX. I have a 6800GS but wanted a 7800GS, but couldn't afford it. So I won't be able to run AA and HDR for sure. But I hope to not have to deal with 5 load screens in 5 minutes! Uhhgggggg! That cannot be true on the PC only the XSUX360. Really looking forward to this game!

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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Feb 2006 14:41    Post subject:
Damn man u maked me Unhappy now Sad
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gold24




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Feb 2006 14:45    Post subject: well at least
and so we begin the countdown today for the game hopefully the 28 of march still is on target so many review and preview of the gmae showing up everywhere on the net
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Feb 2006 14:50    Post subject:
maybe leak game today Laughing Razz
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Feb 2006 14:59    Post subject:
bill_the_one wrote:
Interesting : there is at the moment a technical discussion on the official elder scrolls forum about the gfx options in Oblivion. It is said that even the high-end Nvidia cards (7800gt/gtx) will not be able to run the HDR option with AA activated in the same time (where some ATI card will be able to do it, maybe the x1800xt or x1900xt ).

It seems that iit is linked to a hardware issue (same hardware part used for the 2 functionnalities) for the Nvidia cards.

Is anyone aware of that ? (i would be very sad if i can't run Oblivion at max settings HDR & AA with my 7800gtx's Crying or Very sad ?)


I've asked the question in the nvnews forum : let's hope that an expert will give an answer to this....
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bigboy177




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Feb 2006 17:35    Post subject:
bill_the_one wrote:
bill_the_one wrote:
Interesting : there is at the moment a technical discussion on the official elder scrolls forum about the gfx options in Oblivion. It is said that even the high-end Nvidia cards (7800gt/gtx) will not be able to run the HDR option with AA activated in the same time (where some ATI card will be able to do it, maybe the x1800xt or x1900xt ).

It seems that iit is linked to a hardware issue (same hardware part used for the 2 functionnalities) for the Nvidia cards.

Is anyone aware of that ? (i would be very sad if i can't run Oblivion at max settings HDR & AA with my 7800gtx's Crying or Very sad ?)


I've asked the question in the nvnews forum : let's hope that an expert will give an answer to this....


nVidia cards don't support HDR and FSAA at the same time... it's as simple as that... Wink
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Feb 2006 17:53    Post subject:
[Muad|Dib] wrote:
Wow that would suck if you couldn't run HDR and AA with a 7800GTX. I have a 6800GS but wanted a 7800GS, but couldn't afford it. So I won't be able to run AA and HDR for sure. But I hope to not have to deal with 5 load screens in 5 minutes! Uhhgggggg! That cannot be true on the PC only the XSUX360. Really looking forward to this game!

[Muad|Dib]


Both things are true, you can't run AA and HDR at the same time on hardly any cards, also there will be alot of loading on both platforms. Just like Morrowind.


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Xeinon




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Feb 2006 18:00    Post subject:
Nvidia cards doesn´t support HDR and AA at the same time. THat is becuase when rendering in HDR, you render different parts at a time. The Nvidia cards can´t do AA under those conditions, but x1800 and th X1900 can.
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war3




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Feb 2006 20:04    Post subject:
... not even in SLi or crossfire will those two work together?? like.. 2 X 7800GTX or 2 X 1900XT should be able to do this right?...

not that i can afford that stuff.. but.. as a technologycal achievement.. they should do the trick ..


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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Feb 2006 20:15    Post subject:
Damn I pray Elder Scrolls will be defenetly out on 20th march. If its not out till 20th march i fuck myself because then theres no other good game....or mayber spectrum warrior and the godfather Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Feb 2006 20:40    Post subject:
war3 wrote:
... not even in SLi or crossfire will those two work together?? like.. 2 X 7800GTX or 2 X 1900XT should be able to do this right?...

not that i can afford that stuff.. but.. as a technologycal achievement.. they should do the trick ..


It's not a performance issue but a technology issue. Why should two Nvidia cards suddenly make something impossible possible.
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bigboy177




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Feb 2006 21:25    Post subject:
war3 wrote:
... not even in SLi or crossfire will those two work together?? like.. 2 X 7800GTX or 2 X 1900XT should be able to do this right?...

not that i can afford that stuff.. but.. as a technologycal achievement.. they should do the trick ..


Even one 1800 will be able to do it... and 4 x 7800 not... probably the nextgen nvidia GPUs will be capable of FSAA + HDR...
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Feb 2006 21:36    Post subject:
I just hope it'll live up to my expectations.. can't wait to buy it.

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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Mar 2006 22:20    Post subject:
Well.... It's the first of march. If it doesn't go gold in 2 weeks, we ain't seeing it this month.


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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Mar 2006 00:33    Post subject:
Apprantly it has been review in OXM. 9.5. Xbox version, but there you go.

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