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Nodrim




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Oct 2019 13:20    Post subject:
IamAWESOME wrote:
Production is very high quality. But everything else is snooze after 5 hours. Terrible characters and story. Most of the kinetic guns are meh. Characters powers boring and lacks variety. The public events seem to be repetitive/copy-pasted stuff which got boring as well. All that for 1 random loot which becomes trash at next mission.

All the dull stuff is hidden behind eye-candy which doesn't show up early game.


Bungie are the masters of copy pasta, they look at Blizzard in the rear view mirror. The first two events I played on the Moon are copied, one from Titan and one from Mars. Laughing I read somewhere that even the intro is from Destiny 1.
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spajdr




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Oct 2019 13:23    Post subject:
IamAWESOME wrote:
Production is very high quality. But everything else is snooze after 5 hours. Terrible characters and stories. Most of the kinetic guns are meh. Characters powers boring and lacks variety. The public events seem to be repetitive/copy-pasted stuff which got boring as well. All that for 1 random loot which becomes trash at the next mission.

All the dull stuff is hidden behind eye-candy which doesn't show up early game.


Compared to Anthem it's heaven
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Shinin




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Oct 2019 14:08    Post subject:
Dodged a bullet here, skip this shit Very Happy


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Nodrim




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Oct 2019 14:26    Post subject:
spajdr wrote:
IamAWESOME wrote:
Production is very high quality. But everything else is snooze after 5 hours. Terrible characters and stories. Most of the kinetic guns are meh. Characters powers boring and lacks variety. The public events seem to be repetitive/copy-pasted stuff which got boring as well. All that for 1 random loot which becomes trash at the next mission.

All the dull stuff is hidden behind eye-candy which doesn't show up early game.


Compared to Anthem it's heaven


What an amazing comparison. Laughing
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The_Zeel




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Oct 2019 14:39    Post subject:
Shinin wrote:
Dodged a bullet here, skip this shit Very Happy


phew, you were almost 0 dollars poorer Razz
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Oct 2019 16:02    Post subject:
Yeah careful dodging those free 2 play bullets, lol.

Btw, they cut out the campaign. Well, the red legion thingy. You can still play it, but it's not mandatory, more like a nostalgic throwback.
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Amadeus




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Oct 2019 16:07    Post subject:
Lol does this modern AAA title not have any TAA?

It's so friggin noisy
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locke89




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Oct 2019 08:47    Post subject:
Pff, I rolled new class and I'm having a blast Smile The intro for the new players was a cool throwback to Destiny 1 when I tried playing it on PS4. Plus, there is really a lot of content for free although I got myself new battle pass. Having all the content from the Annual Pass is cool, though Smile
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Nodrim




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Oct 2019 08:52    Post subject:
Shadowkeep's campaign was quite decent. I'm actually surprised. Mr. Green
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SteamDRM




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Oct 2019 09:07    Post subject:
Nodrim wrote:
Shadowkeep's campaign was quite decent. I'm actually surprised. Mr. Green


How long is it?
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Nodrim




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Oct 2019 09:20    Post subject:
SteamDRM wrote:
Nodrim wrote:
Shadowkeep's campaign was quite decent. I'm actually surprised. Mr. Green


How long is it?


Not that long, around 6-7 hours I guess including the usual pace breaking missions.
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locke89




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Oct 2019 21:21    Post subject:
Man, Gambit Prime is such a fun mode Smile
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Nodrim




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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Oct 2019 11:26    Post subject:
I tried the new raid yesterday. We only managed to complete the first encounter but it was great fun. Mr. Green
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H4wkeye




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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Oct 2019 15:09    Post subject:
Can you still get to power level 900+ without Shadowkeep?
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blackeyedboy




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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Oct 2019 16:07    Post subject:
Nodrim wrote:
I tried the new raid yesterday. We only managed to complete the first encounter but it was great fun. Mr. Green


Makes sense. "We" could play Worms MP and still have a LOT of fun...


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Nodrim




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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Oct 2019 16:25    Post subject:
If you want, I can go into detail why it was an entertaining experience, no problem. Laughing
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IamAWESOME




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Oct 2019 17:56    Post subject:
I kept playing to see what it actually has and after 90+ hours so far I'm happy how the game has turned out. Razz There is actually a massive amount of content which is locked until you decide to explore all planets/talk to NPCs/find treasures, etc. Every planet/location has something special to offer.

The best part is 900+ grind and the end game is pretty damn good and stacked with content. There is just so much to do that your quest bar is maxed out. Each planet also has bounties and side stuff to keep you busy for a long time. There are plenty of cool weapons to grind for and some of them have their own quests to get.

Currently, even with 90+ hours and around 920 power, I feel like there is plenty more to discover. The triumphs section is good way to track your overall game progression.

The Gambit is like an improvement over Warframe's index mode with a mix of PvP and boss which is nicely done. The PvP is not my type (it's more towards CoD crowd) but had some fun matches. There is also a (weekly?) fun version of PvP where powers are disabled and everyone has launchers.

The open-world public events could be better as most of them are repeated and gets cleared very fast. Otherwise, so far, so good sadly.

All this F2P version. Yet to check Forsaken and Shadowkeep content. Think I'll get it since the game is super addictive, runs great, has plenty of stuff and plenty more to come apparently.

The old comparison to Warframe was silly. Apart from being F2P, they don't really have anything in common. Both are great in their own regards.


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h0rnyfavn
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Oct 2019 19:50    Post subject:
What's the main difference between Warframe and this game?

Is it less grindy?


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Nodrim




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Oct 2019 20:10    Post subject:
Warframe is more about melee combat, Destiny 2 is a shooter.
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IamAWESOME




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Oct 2019 20:22    Post subject:
Everything is different.

Destiny 2 - planets. Each planet is open-world like Warframe's Fortuna and Plains. Rest of the Warframe is more mission/corridor based while Destiny has full open exploration. It also has closed corridor stuff but they have all tied with the open world again. Like how Fortuna basically works except planets are bigger, more alive, and has lots of stuff.

Destiny 2 - weapons. It's 99% guns only while Warframe has a large number of melee weapons. Both have good variety but so far I'll give this to WF because of the variety while not taking visual quality into consideration. Destiny weapons are more flashy fun but most of them have the same feeling while WF doesn't. Exotics are unique though.

Destiny 2 - missions. Again more open world stuff. Missions tied to NPCs/area like WF's Fortuna except more. WF has node types where you go X->clear->exit. Here you have more freedom and variety.

Destiny 2 - crafting. Warframe you can craft pretty much everything and mats have value. Running missions always reward regardless. Destiny 2 rewards crafted items straight. You can farm and get nothing (RNG) or get lucky with drops. WF always rewards either material of weapon/frame parts to craft. In D2, you use mats to level up the faction/NPC level for a random item. Some also require for mods.

Destiny 2 - modding. Doesn't really exist. Very little boost. The gear system is what you see is what you get. In WF, everything is modding. From gear to weapons, grind for mods and mods make things better.

Destiny 2 - grind. Both have a good chunk of a grind but by eliminating material requirement (except some), it feels less grindy than WF where some items have crazy/boring grind. Destiny 2 grind is more of a player doing a set of objectives/quests/solving stuff/clearing challenges for reward while Warframe is straight forward with grind and missions which can be boring since you keep running the same area over and over.

Destiny 2 content. Actually very good and lots to cover. Given the nature of open-world, they have many adventures/side missions/caves/MMO style stuff placed all over the map. Exploration is rewarding and can be done multiple times while Warframe has pretty much just planets without open world (which is also very time clear and done type) and sharing the same tileset.

End game - Warframe has no endgame. Am at MR27 (max at the moment) and there is literally nothing to do. The game isn't balanced. Lots of old items are completely out of order. It also gives new players a bad taste because you won't use them after levelling up. Basically wasting materials. Index feels unfinished. PvP is dead. No Raids. You don't even have a reason to grind because stats are fixed on items. Only Rivens is there but that is complete RNG and Kuva grind is terribly boring due to lack of Kuva nodes. Even if you farm plats and gamble on Rivens, it doesn't have any reason to do since there is no "hard/challenging" content. Warframe has become very trivial now.

Destiny 2 offers solid endgame and lots of challenging and hardcore stuff. Both are good F2P games in their own but presentation/quality and content helps Destiny 2 a lot. WF is really slow these days with content and with nothing to do, end game players are bored of if. Pretty much just log in for a daily reward.

If you want melee stuff, crafting, corridor material grind, Warframe wins easily. If you want more cool exploration, challenging content, decent progression, PvP, endgame, then Destiny 2.


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jrs2nd




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Oct 2019 20:53    Post subject:
H4wkeye wrote:
Can you still get to power level 900+ without Shadowkeep?



Well I have just tried out this game ( ok put 45 hours into it SurprisedP) but you can reach 900+
no problem as F2P do not have any expansions ( Have not spent a dime) completed
the new light & original campaign (red war) have two to go (legacy campaigns) and a
crap load of other quests I have not finished...

I'm sitting at 915 atm with 5 exotics (which seem to be gated for the most part
( season passes or dlc exclusive) there is some content, not much, in strikes (nightmare ) or location quests that are dlc specific. but the Nightmare "weekly" for bonus gear
rotates so some weeks you can't do it others you can.

if you do strikes (PVE), crucible (PVP) , Gambit (PVPVE) and the quests you should have a
good 60-100 hrs, min of play time (depending on whether you like to explore or you
jump on a speeder to rush to the next quest CP) before the itch to maybe buy a dlc hits .
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IamAWESOME




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Oct 2019 21:03    Post subject:
Yeah, you can even hit 950 without DLCs but DLCs help a lot for sure. The tier 2 gear at Moon is gated for example. Even this week's strike with weekly and pinnacle gear reward is gated. Though you do get T1 reward from other weekly bounties.

Forsaken has all exotic quests and Shadowkeep added new Vex Offensive horde mode. Am itching to get the DLCs but will wait till I hit rank 50 in season, I guess. After that not much reward for F2P player. Very Happy



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jrs2nd




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Oct 2019 21:09    Post subject:
IamAWESOME wrote:
Am itching to get the DLCs but will wait till I hit rank 50 in season, I guess. After that not much reward for F2P player. Very Happy


about the same for me ... at rank 25 at the moment ... although I am side-eyeing my
debit card... O_o
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Oct 2019 21:36    Post subject:
Obviously will get from Argentina store. Forsaken $4. Shadowkeep deluxe $11 (includes season pass) or standard for $7. Not bad for $11-15 for the amount of hours you can get in. Very Happy


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h0rnyfavn
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Oct 2019 00:29    Post subject:
No rivatuner\afterburner, no reshade.. No buy. Laughing

Anti-consumer crap.


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tet666




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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Oct 2019 11:30    Post subject:
IamAWESOME wrote:
Obviously will get from Argentina store. Forsaken $4. Shadowkeep deluxe $11 (includes season pass) or standard for $7. Not bad for $11-15 for the amount of hours you can get in. Very Happy


Have not bought from steam itself in years but it seems there are no cheap Forsaken codes for steam anywhere atm so how exactly do you do this? I know about changing your (alt) accounts country with a vpn and everything but steam refuses all my payment methods.
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Rage




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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Oct 2019 12:27    Post subject:
I haven't bought shadowkeep yet, but forsaken was really good imo, i had a lot of fun with it, the story, the new areas, the new enemy faction, everything really. It's all very spaghetti western-like, don't wanna spoil anything though.


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Paeter




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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Oct 2019 13:58    Post subject:
IamAWESOME wrote:
Obviously will get from Argentina store. Forsaken $4. Shadowkeep deluxe $11 (includes season pass) or standard for $7. Not bad for $11-15 for the amount of hours you can get in. Very Happy



Do you know if it is possible to use the actual save to the Argentine account?
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tet666




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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Oct 2019 14:20    Post subject:
Rage wrote:
I haven't bought shadowkeep yet, but forsaken was really good imo, i had a lot of fun with it, the story, the new areas, the new enemy faction, everything really. It's all very spaghetti western-like, don't wanna spoil anything though.


Sounds good i have never really played the game and i'm pretty bored with Warframe so i need something to replace it, i 'm playing the free campaigns atm and want one the xpacks for the expanded classes and shit and everyone told me shadowkeep is not that great anyway so i should wait and just buy forsaken instead for now.
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IamAWESOME




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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Oct 2019 16:18    Post subject:
I used the Steam wallet code. Bought from Plati and redeemed it. Steam automatically converts currency.

You can also directly buy from Steam but need to do from local region and then switch after 48 hours (cooldown period).

Paeter wrote:
IamAWESOME wrote:
Obviously will get from Argentina store. Forsaken $4. Shadowkeep deluxe $11 (includes season pass) or standard for $7. Not bad for $11-15 for the amount of hours you can get in. Very Happy



Do you know if it is possible to use the actual save to the Argentine account?


Yeah, it should be fine. I was in RU region all these days. Will change to Argentina on 14th.
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