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 Posted: Mon, 6th Aug 2018 19:13 Post subject: |
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Is LTSC really the Windows XP of Windows 10 ? I mean Windows XP (RTM, not SP2) wasn't bloated at all, and it was easy to even spot weird processes in the task manager.
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thudo
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| Posted: Mon, 6th Aug 2018 19:15 Post subject: |
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 Ha! Good luck.. you will conform or die BUT, as the d00ds mentioned.. get LTSC if you are concerned.
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| Posted: Thu, 6th Sep 2018 10:38 Post subject: |
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https://insider.windows.com/fr-fr/community-news/dark-theme-in-file-explorer/
About fucking time ...
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| Posted: Thu, 6th Sep 2018 17:55 Post subject: |
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I an still amazed after all this time they have not figured out a way to allow you to alphabetize your start menu tiles easily.
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Sep 2018 15:36 Post subject: |
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| lolozaur wrote: | are ppl here using w10 unactivated or its worth it to buy a key even if i dont do much on the pc? i havent reinstalled windows since august 2015  , time to give w10 a chance |
Since an OEM key costs €6-7 I'd say go for it. Also the tale that you can't reactivate is nonsense. I reinstalled Windows 10 at work on a new PC, used their phone support to reactivate and voila, it worked.
I must say that Windows 10 can be extremely infuriating to work with though. There's a LOT of crap that takes ages to figure out. For example, our 5 year old NAS refused to get detected by Windows 10. Turns out it's caused by something called SMB1 not being enabled because Microsoft decided to remove default support. It meant that over 3/4 of all our work stations, printers, etc. would NOT get detected on the network. Fuck you, Microsoft. Took me ages to discover why this was, as well.
And don't get me started on permission errors or their new Control Panel which is a joke. It seems all the new menus lack the options of old, are harder to work with and slower to navigate. Good thing they still left in the old stuff but how long before they "phase it out" and just remove it all together?
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dr-nix
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Sep 2018 07:37 Post subject: |
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| red_avatar wrote: | | For example, our 5 year old NAS refused to get detected by Windows 10. Turns out it's caused by something called SMB1 not being enabled because Microsoft decided to remove default support. It meant that over 3/4 of all our work stations, printers, etc. would NOT get detected on the network. Fuck you, Microsoft. Took me ages to discover why this was, as well. |
I also had this issue with a customers NAS i was testing.
This also means that it's an ancient nas it's probably time to upgrade if the nas matters at all to you.
I agree it's shitty that MS can't make it so that atleast you get a warning message that "Windows 10 has discovered an unsupported SMB1 device" or something. I understand the frustration.
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Frant
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Sep 2018 14:22 Post subject: |
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*sigh*
To me it seems they're obfuscating and removing control from the user with every major update.
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Sep 2018 19:27 Post subject: |
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| Frant wrote: | *sigh*
To me it seems they're obfuscating and removing control from the user with every major update. |
So?
If you're working as an IT guy, you will still find your way around, if not, you shouldn't touch things you have half clue about.
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Frant
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Sep 2018 19:41 Post subject: |
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I "find my way around" by using win 8.1
Good job, MS!
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thudo
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Sep 2018 20:28 Post subject: |
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Yeah, like life, its all about "incrementalism".. slowly removing OR adding stuff from/to us hoping we won't really mind. 
I do use Disk Cleanup a fair bit as it allows me to clean crap I'd otherwise have to prod for each time. Somewhat convenient. Guess I should keep the EXE and support files around before the next big patch.
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Roach_666
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Sep 2018 21:10 Post subject: |
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From what I understand, MS is replacing traditional tools with ones based on UWP. Not removing.
Of course, for people like me who're used to using the traditional ones, it's a hassle.
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Sep 2018 21:58 Post subject: |
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| dr-nix wrote: | | red_avatar wrote: | | For example, our 5 year old NAS refused to get detected by Windows 10. Turns out it's caused by something called SMB1 not being enabled because Microsoft decided to remove default support. It meant that over 3/4 of all our work stations, printers, etc. would NOT get detected on the network. Fuck you, Microsoft. Took me ages to discover why this was, as well. |
I also had this issue with a customers NAS i was testing.
This also means that it's an ancient nas it's probably time to upgrade if the nas matters at all to you.
I agree it's shitty that MS can't make it so that atleast you get a warning message that "Windows 10 has discovered an unsupported SMB1 device" or something. I understand the frustration. |
hey, that was mentioned in the update that they are removing default smbv1 and only support smbv2 by default.
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Sep 2018 23:54 Post subject: |
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| Ampee wrote: | | dr-nix wrote: | | red_avatar wrote: | | For example, our 5 year old NAS refused to get detected by Windows 10. Turns out it's caused by something called SMB1 not being enabled because Microsoft decided to remove default support. It meant that over 3/4 of all our work stations, printers, etc. would NOT get detected on the network. Fuck you, Microsoft. Took me ages to discover why this was, as well. |
I also had this issue with a customers NAS i was testing.
This also means that it's an ancient nas it's probably time to upgrade if the nas matters at all to you.
I agree it's shitty that MS can't make it so that atleast you get a warning message that "Windows 10 has discovered an unsupported SMB1 device" or something. I understand the frustration. |
hey, that was mentioned in the update that they are removing default smbv1 and only support smbv2 by default. |
As if the average joe would read those updates. And yeah, the fact that Windows doesn't even warn users - they could have enabled SMB1 but added a warning. They didn't. And searching for "my PC doesn't show up under Network" gives you a gazillion topics about network sharing being wrongly configured but it took me three hours of Googling to find the solution so it's really not that obvious.
And the NAS is 6 years old which isn't all that old - it's a Synology so not just a cheap brand either.
I've always defended Windows 8 because its bad features were mostly fixed in 8.1 and it actually added quite a few good things. Windows 10 however, has added very little good new stuff but has made a lot of things far harder to find. You got to manually type in the names to find the old stuff since you can't navigate to it anymore from the menus. That's ridiculous. The Devices menu is a nightmare to use now - lacks half the options the old one had.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Sun, 16th Sep 2018 14:33 Post subject: |
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Good, I'll finally "upgrade" my desktop then 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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Frant
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| Posted: Sun, 16th Sep 2018 15:17 Post subject: |
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So, when it comes to LTSC, obviously I can't use my legal Win10 Pro Key. What's the alternatives? I know very little about running pirated Windows. KMS Pico or something?
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| Posted: Sun, 16th Sep 2018 15:28 Post subject: |
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| Frant wrote: | | So, when it comes to LTSC, obviously I can't use my legal Win10 Pro Key. What's the alternatives? I know very little about running pirated Windows. KMS Pico or something? |
find a kms key with google or buy yourself one and activate it with phone activation.
even if the key gets deactivated in the future, which is most likely with public kms keys you will find on google, it will be still activated until you format your pc the next time.
but they are hard to find and deactivated pretty fast, so if you want to do this -> be fast with activating it with phone activation, before the key is unusable.
of course the easiest way is to get a kms tool from a official source (most likely MDL)
i already used kmspico, it just worked so i never had the need to took something else.
but there are also others like microsoft tool kit and so on.
you install it, press activate and your done.
after that you can either uninstall it again and install it again after 180 days to reactivate, or you let it installed in the first place and it will automaticly redo the activation at every boot in the background. you will not notice it.
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Frant
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| Posted: Sun, 16th Sep 2018 17:09 Post subject: |
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Thanks for the information. Then I'll wait and prepare for the LTSC 2019 release.
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Sun, 16th Sep 2018 22:34 Post subject: |
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I do the same asme friewald. All the PCs in my house are using KMSpico. But only get the version from MDL, there is 1000's of fake ones out there.
So far I have had 0 issues with it.
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Frant
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| Posted: Tue, 18th Sep 2018 15:48 Post subject: |
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What's the deal with LTSB and LTSC? Same thing or what?! I see both used.
EDIT: Nevermind
| Quote: | | LTSC (formerly known as LTSB) |
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Sep 2018 04:51 Post subject: |
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This thing just gets worse at every update, lol, fuckin heap of crap!
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