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Il_Padrino




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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Sep 2017 18:04    Post subject:
They nerfed Lucky Charm, damn it Laughing
As long as they keep the ranger as is until I complete the game Very Happy

There must have been a door there in the wall, when I came in.
Truly gone fishing.
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blackeyedboy




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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Sep 2017 18:09    Post subject:
Enhanced Edition, I assume, is in the making.

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tet666




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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Sep 2017 18:09    Post subject:
Il_Padrino wrote:
They nerfed Lucky Charm, damn it Laughing
As long as they keep the ranger as is until I complete the game Very Happy


It's not like you are forced to patch the game if you don't want to.
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Bob Barnsen




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Location: Germoney
PostPosted: Thu, 28th Sep 2017 18:42    Post subject:
tet666 wrote:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
I just received some update. Any patch notes?


http://steamcommunity.com/games/435150/announcements/detail/1501245999270934136

Thanks, though:

Quote:
Fixed an eternal damage loop situation in combat.

Any examples, what that was?

Quote:
Lucky Charm has been re-balanced: it now grows in power at a slower rate.

Assholes. Mad
Just started dropping points into it yesterday, as it seemed pretty nice.

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peter980




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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Sep 2017 19:22    Post subject:
tet666 wrote:
Il_Padrino wrote:
They nerfed Lucky Charm, damn it Laughing
As long as they keep the ranger as is until I complete the game Very Happy


It's not like you are forced to patch the game if you don't want to.


GOG Galaxy version is great in that regard. I can chose any of 4 previous versions to rollback to, if needed.
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Sep 2017 19:59    Post subject:
Tweaked journal xp. That's just a way of saying they reduced xp rate from quests right?
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lolozaur




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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Sep 2017 22:35    Post subject:
at the cathedral
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lolozaur




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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Sep 2017 09:37    Post subject:
who made the pipe puzzle should jump off a building Mad , anyway solved it after 1h or so but seems its bugged, nothing happens when all 3 reach the other part...shouldnt a light pop where the blood is like the other two? or is there more than one solution and only one is right right? Laughing

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Stige




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Location: Finland
PostPosted: Fri, 29th Sep 2017 09:39    Post subject:
lolozaur wrote:
who made the pipe puzzle should jump off a building Mad , anyway solved it after 1h or so but seems its bugged, nothing happens when all 3 reach the other part...shouldnt a light pop where the blood is like the other two?

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Probably the easiest puzzle in the game, seriously. You never played that water pipe game before? Very Happy

But yes it has bugged for multiple people apparently, I was lucky enough that it worked just fine.
It looks like your blood doesn't like like it's blessed all the way? Remember reading some people having that problem, bless the blood before you start the puzzle, worked for me atleast.
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mtj




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Location: Austria / Finland
PostPosted: Fri, 29th Sep 2017 10:00    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
tet666 wrote:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
I just received some update. Any patch notes?


http://steamcommunity.com/games/435150/announcements/detail/1501245999270934136

Thanks, though:

Quote:
Fixed an eternal damage loop situation in combat.

Any examples, what that was?

Quote:
Lucky Charm has been re-balanced: it now grows in power at a slower rate.

Assholes. Mad
Just started dropping points into it yesterday, as it seemed pretty nice.


The eternal damage loop was achieved with 2 characters, an undead + anything. You cast soul link between the 2 characters (and maybe some other spell too?) and then the .... necro spell which prevents the character from dying for 2 turns, and the undead must have the talent which deals damage when he dies.

Something like this Razz

There was a video where someone killed the troll from act 2. It took like 5 minutes though Razz I think in the end he was dealing 1 damage to the troll N times per second (10-20).

edit: found the url: https://www.kotaku.com.au/2017/09/divinity-original-sin-2-players-discover-an-infinite-damage-combo/
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xxax
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Sep 2017 10:45    Post subject:
Stige wrote:
lolozaur wrote:
who made the pipe puzzle should jump off a building Mad , anyway solved it after 1h or so but seems its bugged, nothing happens when all 3 reach the other part...shouldnt a light pop where the blood is like the other two?

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Probably the easiest puzzle in the game, seriously. You never played that water pipe game before? Very Happy

But yes it has bugged for multiple people apparently, I was lucky enough that it worked just fine.
It looks like your blood doesn't like like it's blessed all the way? Remember reading some people having that problem, bless the blood before you start the puzzle, worked for me atleast.


Its beyond bugged. 1st, 2nd and 3rd try the water just stopped at block and didn't flow further. Had to reload from way back. 4th attempt blessed blood stopped being blessed after a block.
Took me way to long to do cuz of bugs.
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Bob Barnsen




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Location: Germoney
PostPosted: Fri, 29th Sep 2017 16:43    Post subject:
mtj wrote:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
tet666 wrote:


http://steamcommunity.com/games/435150/announcements/detail/1501245999270934136

Thanks, though:

Quote:
Fixed an eternal damage loop situation in combat.

Any examples, what that was?

Quote:
Lucky Charm has been re-balanced: it now grows in power at a slower rate.

Assholes. Mad
Just started dropping points into it yesterday, as it seemed pretty nice.


The eternal damage loop was achieved with 2 characters, an undead + anything. You cast soul link between the 2 characters (and maybe some other spell too?) and then the .... necro spell which prevents the character from dying for 2 turns, and the undead must have the talent which deals damage when he dies.

Something like this Razz

There was a video where someone killed the troll from act 2. It took like 5 minutes though Razz I think in the end he was dealing 1 damage to the troll N times per second (10-20).

edit: found the url: https://www.kotaku.com.au/2017/09/divinity-original-sin-2-players-discover-an-infinite-damage-combo/




Seems it wasn't a "good" bug, but more of an annoyance. Seeing how the performance crippled.

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locke89




Posts: 2812
Location: Poland
PostPosted: Sat, 30th Sep 2017 00:16    Post subject:
Act 4 is so bad. I'm at
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and have zero motivation to continue playing. Maybe I'll just watch ending on YT Smile
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Nodrim




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Location: Romania
PostPosted: Sat, 30th Sep 2017 00:36    Post subject:
I lost my motivation in Act 2.
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ixigia
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Location: Italy
PostPosted: Sat, 30th Sep 2017 01:36    Post subject:
*Summons a little reminder*
It's practically impossible to keep the thread spoilers-free (for the obvious reasons) but I have to ask you guys to put at least the crucial encounters/parts of the story inside a spoiler, I've been receiving some messages about it and indeed a bit more attention would be nice for all those who browse the thread and/or have just started playing the game. I've been adding some manually, though it's not very doable Razz (would end up ruining my future Divine experience as well). Thanks!
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tet666




Posts: 5090
PostPosted: Sat, 30th Sep 2017 03:48    Post subject:
Game is fantastic i'm still going strong and i don't even like WRPGs a lot usually.
95 metacritic score, 94% Steam score i don't think there is a lot to complain here apart from personal preferences.
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Reg67




Posts: 5432
PostPosted: Sat, 30th Sep 2017 06:49    Post subject:
locke89 wrote:
Act 4 is so bad. I'm at
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and have zero motivation to continue playing. Maybe I'll just watch ending on YT Smile


Only played for about 3 hrs, but I was worried that may happen. I lost my motivation in the first one too. It sort of wore me down, difficult to explain. Sad
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lolozaur




Posts: 26310
PostPosted: Sat, 30th Sep 2017 07:47    Post subject:
well just like the first game, i got bored here too on the 4th map; 2nd map i think it was excellent, great design and so much content in a small space, reminded me of gothic 2 somehow
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Bob Barnsen




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Location: Germoney
PostPosted: Sat, 30th Sep 2017 09:02    Post subject:
tet666 wrote:
Game is fantastic i'm still going strong and i don't even like WRPGs a lot usually.
95 metacritic score, 94% Steam score i don't think there is a lot to complain here apart from personal preferences.

I cleared maybe 70% of Reapers Coast so far.

My few gripes:
- Dialogues are often not really engaging and i tend to skip them often.
- Also choices in dialogues are often just retarded. For example most dialogues with (probably) hostile NPCs give the impression that you can manipulate them in some way. But in 90% of the cases it will result in a fight anyways.
- They really should have implement global scaling of rewards and enemies. For example in Repears Coast i started doing quests in the west side of the region. Then went to the east side and i was like 3+ levels above the enemies. Which resulted in no real challenge anymore. Also doing the quests in this case was mostly boring, because i wouldn't get a nice reward anyways.
- After a nice start with the story at the second island, it now is rather quite again. The main story so far is just so not-captivating, wtf.

The only thing i still very much enjoy is the tactical combat.

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vaifan1986




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Location: Birthplace of the necktie.
PostPosted: Sat, 30th Sep 2017 09:57    Post subject:
Dear Sniffty


Seek therapy
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/guild/lothar/Looters%20Anonymous/

Kind regards,
Vaifan

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lolozaur




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Sep 2017 10:05    Post subject:
well i tried many times at the pipe puzzle, its bugged for me, when blessed blood intersects with blessed fire, the bless dissapears, fuck it, uninstalled
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Pl@tinum




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Sep 2017 11:52    Post subject:
lolozaur wrote:
well i tried many times at the pipe puzzle, its bugged for me, when blessed blood intersects with blessed fire, the bless dissapears, fuck it, uninstalled


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Bob Barnsen




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Location: Germoney
PostPosted: Sat, 30th Sep 2017 12:19    Post subject:
Oh and what else really annoys me in dialogues:
Often when you get have somewhat edgy options to chose from, it often ends with the partner not wanting to talk to you anymore or going hostile.

So most of the time i'm forced to play the good asshole. It sucks. Embarassed

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tet666




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Sep 2017 12:35    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
tet666 wrote:
Game is fantastic i'm still going strong and i don't even like WRPGs a lot usually.
95 metacritic score, 94% Steam score i don't think there is a lot to complain here apart from personal preferences.

I cleared maybe 70% of Reapers Coast so far.

My few gripes:
- Dialogues are often not really engaging and i tend to skip them often.
- Also choices in dialogues are often just retarded. For example most dialogues with (probably) hostile NPCs give the impression that you can manipulate them in some way. But in 90% of the cases it will result in a fight anyways.
- They really should have implement global scaling of rewards and enemies. For example in Repears Coast i started doing quests in the west side of the region. Then went to the east side and i was like 3+ levels above the enemies. Which resulted in no real challenge anymore. Also doing the quests in this case was mostly boring, because i wouldn't get a nice reward anyways.
- After a nice start with the story at the second island, it now is rather quite again. The main story so far is just so not-captivating, wtf.

The only thing i still very much enjoy is the tactical combat.


I agree on the scaling stuff but why didn't you use the mods i posted? it fixes this and makes the game a lot more enjoyable.
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lolozaur




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Sep 2017 12:36    Post subject:
Pl@tinum wrote:
lolozaur wrote:
well i tried many times at the pipe puzzle, its bugged for me, when blessed blood intersects with blessed fire, the bless dissapears, fuck it, uninstalled


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i googled the problems for this puzzle and tried every solution i could find, nothing works for me, even reloaded from earlier
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Bob Barnsen




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Location: Germoney
PostPosted: Sat, 30th Sep 2017 13:27    Post subject:
tet666 wrote:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
tet666 wrote:
Game is fantastic i'm still going strong and i don't even like WRPGs a lot usually.
95 metacritic score, 94% Steam score i don't think there is a lot to complain here apart from personal preferences.

I cleared maybe 70% of Reapers Coast so far.

My few gripes:
- Dialogues are often not really engaging and i tend to skip them often.
- Also choices in dialogues are often just retarded. For example most dialogues with (probably) hostile NPCs give the impression that you can manipulate them in some way. But in 90% of the cases it will result in a fight anyways.
- They really should have implement global scaling of rewards and enemies. For example in Repears Coast i started doing quests in the west side of the region. Then went to the east side and i was like 3+ levels above the enemies. Which resulted in no real challenge anymore. Also doing the quests in this case was mostly boring, because i wouldn't get a nice reward anyways.
- After a nice start with the story at the second island, it now is rather quite again. The main story so far is just so not-captivating, wtf.

The only thing i still very much enjoy is the tactical combat.


I agree on the scaling stuff but why didn't you use the mods i posted? it fixes this and makes the game a lot more enjoyable.


Not sure, but i guess because it's unclear how those kind of mods will fare in the late game and might flip over balance completely.

Also i don't think that mod will adjust the rewards and their levels or?

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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Sep 2017 15:37    Post subject:
If it's the same one as earlier it reduces vitality boosters by a ton which in turn scales down everything and doesn't need to be fine adjusted for any particular point in the game.

Going by the XML examples there were even set level intervals where the characters vitality was boosted to hell which really screwed up game balance especially late-game where upgrading new equipment every level was near mandatory or you'd fall behind big time because other stats for some reason also calculated from vitality scores.

From the discussion around that it seems like a really strange decision and "fixing" the issue by reducing the vitality scale to something reasonable doesn't break anything and might in fact just improve the game unless they're directly targeting players looking for 4-digit damage output and such stuff.


Works with a existing game too but can't be removed after you've saved or well the mod can be removed but the stats won't be re-scaled to the original values whereas they will be scaled down to the modded values when you add said mod.

Also breaks achievements as with most third party add-on's for the game but Steam has SAM so you could do it that way. Very Happy
(Not really a option for people who are hardcore about achievement earning though, I know that much at least.)
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tet666




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Sep 2017 15:50    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
If it's the same one as earlier it reduces vitality boosters by a ton which in turn scales down everything and doesn't need to be fine adjusted for any particular point in the game.

Going by the XML examples there were even set level intervals where the characters vitality was boosted to hell which really screwed up game balance especially late-game where upgrading new equipment every level was near mandatory or you'd fall behind big time because other stats for some reason also calculated from vitality scores.

From the discussion around that it seems like a really strange decision and "fixing" the issue by reducing the vitality scale to something reasonable doesn't break anything and might in fact just improve the game unless they're directly targeting players looking for 4-digit damage output and such stuff.


Works with a existing game too but can't be removed after you've saved or well the mod can be removed but the stats won't be re-scaled to the original values whereas they will be scaled down to the modded values when you add said mod.

Also breaks achievements as with most third party add-on's for the game but Steam has SAM so you could do it that way. Very Happy
(Not really a option for people who are hardcore about achievement earning though, I know that much at least.)


There are some new versions and a fix to change the scaling if you want now.
https://www.nexusmods.com/divinityoriginalsin2/mods/58/
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Lathieza




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Sep 2017 15:52    Post subject:
lolozaur wrote:
Pl@tinum wrote:
lolozaur wrote:
well i tried many times at the pipe puzzle, its bugged for me, when blessed blood intersects with blessed fire, the bless dissapears, fuck it, uninstalled


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i googled the problems for this puzzle and tried every solution i could find, nothing works for me, even reloaded from earlier


I just did blood rain on the bowl and then blessed it

Empty again Sad
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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Sep 2017 21:44    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
Oh and what else really annoys me in dialogues:
Often when you get have somewhat edgy options to chose from, it often ends with the partner not wanting to talk to you anymore or going hostile.

So most of the time i'm forced to play the good asshole. It sucks. Embarassed

Isn't that the role playing part? A companion doesn't like you anymore and leaves. How is that bad and how are you forced into anything?
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