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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Mar 2017 16:34    Post subject:
fearwhatnow wrote:
So this "masterpiece" has also microtransactions in the MP portion? Laughing

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Like many other AAA games, BioWare's just-released Mass Effect: Andromeda offers microtransactions for its multiplayer mode. Now that the game is available in the wild, pricing for its virtual currency, called Points, has emerged on digital storefronts such as the Xbox Store and the PlayStation Store.

Points can be spent on new multiplayer packs, which come with cosmetic items. Alternatively, multiplayer packs can be acquired through normal gameplay, so the microtransactions are more of a means to unlock the items more quickly.

Andromeda's Points are offered in bundles, starting with 500 for $5 and running up to 12,000 for $100. As always, EA/Origin Access subscribers on Xbox One and PC can save 10 percent on the prices.

Mass Effect: Andromeda Microtransaction Pricing:

500 Points -- $5
1,050 Points -- $10
2,150 Points -- $20
3,250 Points -- $30
5,750 Points -- $50
12,000 Points -- $100


Fyi, I never touched ME3 and I will never play this one even for a minute. I don't care if combat is good. I'm not putting myself in this "politically correct" agenda and I don't want it in videogames. I'm also a bit sad with the direction videogames take. I'll be 40 this year, gaming since 1983, unfortunately things are getting worse every year and all these stupid devs are ruining my hobby with the help ofc of all the stupid consumers/customers.
Let's hope some indie devs will continue to provide good games, though the Early Access scheme is damaging gaming imo.


Just do what I did, install S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Call of Pripyat then the Misery Mod, or if you feel more like playing in a sandboxy environment install the Call of Misery mod (Misery ported to Call of Chernobyl). I've been playing this thing non-stop for the last 3 weeks and I feel like I'm back in PC gaming paradise, not giving a fuck about them shitty games that are being released lately Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Mar 2017 18:27    Post subject:
OrignalSpaceJockey wrote:
Yes. My TV has HDR gaming mode


What Tv is that? Did you have hdr game mode from the start or was it patched in?

Still waiting on HDR Game Mode for LGB6 in Scandinavia Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Mar 2017 19:24    Post subject:
BioWare mulls Mass Effect Andromeda animation, character creator improvements
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Chief among the changes are progression bugs and animation tweaks - although some of the game's most-commented-on scenes remain untouched. For now, that is.

BioWare hasn't gone so far as confirming Andromeda is getting a big animation do-over - and the vast majority of the dialogue you've not seen in GIFs is fine - but the company has said it has plenty of things on the list for its next patch.

"We're looking at patching lots of issues and want to strongly support the game moving forward," lead designer Ian S. Frazier wrote on Twitter last night, in response to one fan asking whether facial animations for some characters might improve. "I can't say more just yet."

One of Andromeda's areas actively being investigated for tune-up is its character creator, whose relatively limited options have upset some fans.

"Can't promise anything yet, but we're currently evaluating various options for making it better," Frazier wrote.

Last week's early access trial for the game recieved a mixed response from fans, who flooded the internet with some of the game's worst examples of bugs in GIF form.

"Many of these issues will be patched out, and most are negligible - easily forgiven as you gaze out over a gleaming, windswept icefield studded with kett outposts, or glimpse a gigantic sandworm composed of flickering black shards arching through the skies of a desert world," Edwin wrote in Eurogamer's Mass Effect Andromeda review. "But it's staggering, nonetheless, that the game made it to retail in this state."

"We're absolutely listening," Frazier concluded, writing to another fan concerned the game would be left in its current state. "Sorry I can't say more right now."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-03-22-mass-effect-andromeda-animation-character-creator-improvements-mulled
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Mar 2017 21:39    Post subject:
"We're looking at patching lots of issues and want to strongly support the game moving forward"

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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Mar 2017 21:48    Post subject:
'We want to try and salvage what dignity we can, and preserve the IP for future profitmongering'


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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Mar 2017 23:09    Post subject:
Shocktrooper wrote:
So, is there any good sci-fi in the writing of this game? You know what I mean, actually scientific stuff.
Are there any cosmological objects other than planets in the game? Pulsars, black holes, neutron stars, alien superstructures etc?



A post from another site sums up the science literacy that you may run into, minor spoilers:


spronk wrote:
The most bothersome thing to me is how Bioware seems to have no grasp of physics. In just the first minute of the game you are told (via cutscenes/monitors) that we used our telescopes and stuff to find the best planets in Andromeda and sent the arks to the ones with the biggest clusters of golden planets. Then it turns out (at least one) of the planet kinda sucks, and your PC makes a comment about how it could have changed so much in 600 years of FTL travel.

No you stupid fuck, Andromeda is 2.5m light years away so that means whatever your scanners picked up was from 2.5m years ago (ignoring how it is highly unlikely you will get down to planetary imaging from a distance of 2.5m LY, no matter how great your tech is). You couldn't even send a probe and get results from that, since that would have still taken hundreds of years to get there with zero way to send data back. I'd like to imagine the game eventually explains whatever happened did so over a million years, but most likely it'll all have happened in the previous 600 years.

Bioware can't even get really, really basic science stuff right
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Mar 2017 00:20    Post subject:
Shut up hater, those were magic quantum entangled telescopes! Cool Face

I think it would've been better if the last message from ghost dad would be one admitting they basicaly invented this shit up as they went on to get the rubes to sign up for a one way trip.


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Shocktrooper




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Mar 2017 00:28    Post subject:
Lol thanks, that's what I was afraid of Laughing
Total n00bs writing this and can't even be arsed to get a scientific advisor
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Mar 2017 00:31    Post subject:
Those telescopes were made from Eeelement zeeroo, guys Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Mar 2017 01:03    Post subject:
Suspicion of Disbelief.. its a sci-fi game after all... like believing everything Hollywood sells ya! Razz


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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Mar 2017 02:04    Post subject:
Somebody made the right call to stop the trial there as the next mission is incredibly terrible and has some of the worst writing I've seen.
dialogue wrote:
Ryder: It'll be fine.
Vetra: I hate this.
Ryder: See? Absolutely fine.
something falls
Cora: Ah! Damn it!
Ryder: It's ok. It's fine.
Cora: Stop saying fine!
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Mar 2017 03:37    Post subject:
Well they used geth tech to survey the planets, so not as bad you make it out to be, if they bothred playing more then 5 minutes they would know
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Mar 2017 03:45    Post subject:
Well that is simply just crap writing to ignore physics with ass-pull explanation. LOL GETH TECH! Rolling Eyes Laughing I mean simply how can you accept that ignoring physics and shoehorning geth tech makes it all okay?
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Tanktyr




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Mar 2017 04:38    Post subject:
No idea, im not as picky?
Im having fun and that is what counts, if its not your cup of tea, thats fine too.
Will tide me over until Persona 5 at least.
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Mar 2017 05:01    Post subject:
Tanktyr wrote:
No idea, im not as picky?
Im having fun and that is what counts, if its not your cup of tea, thats fine too.
Will tide me over until Persona 5 at least.


Look I'm not going to try to change your opinion, if you're having fun, good for you. But I don't think the kind of problems this game has can be ignored or lived with simply by being less picky. That's not really the problem. The problem in my opinion is that the message the game gave us is that the people who worked on this have no respect for their own work, and they have no respect for the consumers. They treat their audience like idiots who even the most amateurish narrative is enough to be moved. They think if minimal effort is enough for people to have fun with the game and will pay for it full price, that's good enough. I'm saying that's not good enough and 5 years of expenditure on manpower and marketing does not justify full price and micro-transactions, not when the final product is this bad.
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Mar 2017 06:22    Post subject:
Maybe instead of creating a fantasy about strangers we don't know based on a game we haven't played, we enjoy the game based on having an open mind and having actually played the game Wink

Just a theory!

Now, get back to nurturing that hatred for no real reason. Makes life better, I'm sure Smile

Such a useful post again. Let people criticize the game because there clearly are good reasons to do so and which this post before you was all about. The wording of your post clearly marks it as trolling. And this particular thread has had enough of it.
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Mar 2017 06:54    Post subject:
Not again. Rolling Eyes

The game has heavy issues, people are allowed to discuss them and people are allowed to enjoy the game. Stop discussing whether both of these things are good or not.


I swear the next person to engage this conversation gets a one week ban.


edit: To make this clear.

1. Play the game, enjoy the game! Noone criticizes you for it. Its a game after all and there are certainly good things about it.

2. Criticize the game, make fun of funny animations scenes, point out the flaws of the game. Obviously that is allowed as for any other game aswell.

But:

a. Leave people be who do either 1. or 2. and accept their opinion. Some things are left to taste and taste is subjective and everyone has the right to have one.

b. Dont discuss Bioware's history or the gaming industry as a whole again and instead focus on the game.

c. Normally neither a. or b. are an issue. People discussing their opinions or the place of a specific game in a companys history is normal. But this thread clearly has had one too many of these meta-discussions. And there have been too many off-topic ramblings.

So it will be under thighter scrutiny. I will not repeat this and you will get the announced ban if you cannot follow these easy rules.

edit 2: And dont engage the troll.


edit 3:

Normally I wouldnt do this but it seems a few clarifications are still in order:

1. We've already had at minimum three very recent instances in this thread where off-topic discussions and fighting between people went overboard. Some people abuse the faults of this game a little too much, maybe. But that is no reason to bait people time and again with the same personal jabs, saying its just people hating for no reason when really there are flaws to which even the sometimes biased reviewers admit.


2. Every single time it takes a good deal of time to sift through the posts and eliminate the bad ones and try to keep the good ones. Last but not least due to aging forum software. Time we are willing to spend of course. But sometimes there is a point where it is just enough. This morning (and several thread cleanings later) was such a point. There is enough empirical evidence to expect exactly the outcome of casus post. Something he knows himself very well, I expect. So the trolling is obvious.

3. We are generally very lenient when it comes to people trolling each other, but just like 3. sometimes enough is enough.

4. I understand it is impossible to do it right for everyone. There is always some subjectivity involved. So I expect criticizm. I encourage you to send pms instead of abusing this thread for it.


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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Mar 2017 07:14    Post subject:
Flaky pseudo-science in MEA shouldn't come as a surprise to anybody, the entire series is built on it. People have been picking holes in the ridiculous underpinnings of the lore since ME1.
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Mar 2017 08:40    Post subject:
couleur ease down. You're making your own rules.
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Mar 2017 08:46    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
couleur ease down. You're making your own rules.


You're not the guy cleaning this thread every two days. This is the fourth time.

You can pm me if you have a better suggestion. Now lets get back to topic, shall we?


"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Mar 2017 08:51    Post subject:
I completely agree with couleur though, the "debate" people have been having in this thread is just parrots talking to each other while thinking they're not parrots, and that the other side is clearly a parrot: all I see are echo chambers replying to one another over and over again without adding much to their respective points.
Some offenders are more obvious than others Very Happy Unfortunately, you need a wider set of rules for everyone because of them..


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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Mar 2017 08:54    Post subject:
thudo wrote:
Suspicion of Disbelief.. its a sci-fi game after all... like believing everything Hollywood sells ya! Razz


What? The appeal of sci-fi is how plausible the tech is.

Not that big on scifi books, but I have read a dozen or so, and the community is pretty anal about tech that is not plausible.

This is just Bioware, and EA, being dumb.


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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Mar 2017 08:58    Post subject:
yes, i was always drawn to star wars by its plausibility.

scifi is about escapism. the only reason its called scifi instead of just being lumped in with all fantasy films, is because instead of using the fantasy realm to justify its magic, it uses SCIENCE to explain its magic.


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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Mar 2017 09:08    Post subject:
chiv wrote:
yes, i was always drawn to star wars by its plausibility.

scifi is about escapism. the only reason its called scifi instead of just being lumped in with all fantasy films, is because instead of using the fantasy realm to justify its magic, it uses SCIENCE to explain its magic.



This.
Previous Effects had some hard scifi theories here and there like the conversation about mass drivers but really it just an exemption from the rule. You can't expect sticking to science from a game in which every planet has the same gravity.


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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Mar 2017 09:25    Post subject:
The only true fact about this game and many others and movies is that aliens exist period.

All the stuff around the "science" aspect of it is mostly invented. Might have some real technologies that exist and that does whatever the game shows in its lore but all and all its just fiction like many others of it's kind. Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Mar 2017 09:33    Post subject:
Heh the game has the player as a 22 year old being the leader of this Pathfinder initiative (For the human race of rejects.) which is crucial for all of humanity whereas "D." had a successor in mind who trained for years only to be completely skipped over so yeah, with that in mind most of the game is a bit easier to see as fiction or while probably unintended as satirical comedy on many political and religious subjects of real life or how to say. Very Happy

Seriously the Immigration Center made me think I was playing Fallout for a while and the game was really trying for a parody of it's futuristic vision but nope I'm pretty sure they were actually trying to be serious even if that's hard to believe.
(That there even is a immigration center and "alien" being a sensitive word is a bit of a thing of it's own too, cultural center perhaps but yeah.)


EDIT: Spoiler! (Or not really.)

Hell one of your dialogue choices in the game even goes as far as (literally.) being "I never asked for this." probably also intended to be a serious response but it felt more like trying to get on that whole Deus Ex HR meme.

Some of the codex entries also reads like comedy such as Pee-bee having a line on "You decided to respect her space." When the fuck did I do that? I've been invasive as hell to her with constant questioning.
(Her "space" is the emergency escape pod too, I can respect her by just pushing the damn eject button. Spaaace! )


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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Mar 2017 09:40    Post subject:
chiv wrote:
yes, i was always drawn to star wars by its plausibility.

scifi is about escapism. the only reason its called scifi instead of just being lumped in with all fantasy films, is because instead of using the fantasy realm to justify its magic, it uses SCIENCE to explain its magic.


Because Star wars were always fantasy movies not sci-fi movies. Razz

This game is a fantasy game in space so whats the problem.

I loved first ME, hated the rest, haven't yet played this so it is irrelevant what I think about the game. Have had no experience with it, yet. Had a lot of other expenses so no money for games until the end of this month. When I play it I'll join the debate. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Mar 2017 13:47    Post subject:
chiv wrote:
yes, i was always drawn to star wars by its plausibility.

scifi is about escapism. the only reason its called scifi instead of just being lumped in with all fantasy films, is because instead of using the fantasy realm to justify its magic, it uses SCIENCE to explain its magic.


How do you spell magic in star wars? m i d i c h l o r i a n s

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