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deelix
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Posted: Sun, 15th May 2016 19:21 Post subject: |
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and forza is no sim, has almost nothing to do with sim -> its an arcade racer (therefore i prefer playing it with a pad and not a wheel)
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Kaltern
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Posted: Sun, 15th May 2016 19:25 Post subject: |
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| deelix wrote: | For me pCars is the overall best driving game when it comes to realism, at least to this date.
Damn, kinda want to go to Gatebil to drive on a good track in real life, see how my car corners at high speeds  |
Pcars is as much a sim as Outrun was in the 1990's It's an arcade game pretending to be a sim. It looks good, but it doesn't drive like a sim. Compared to Rfactor, hell even Asetto Corsa, it's pitiful for the amount of money they had to develop with, and the promises that were made.
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deelix
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Kaltern
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Posted: Sun, 15th May 2016 20:15 Post subject: |
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| deelix wrote: | Would be nice to let some professional drivers actually try out ALL the different driving games that claims to be sim racers/have a sim option . Probably only Assetto Corsa, pCars and LFS that would come close to be called a proper car simulator. |
You invested in Pcars didn't you? 
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Posted: Sun, 15th May 2016 21:34 Post subject: |
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So, it is possible to install this on Win10 store, even if your windows is not legit? (aka, cracked)?
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ixigia
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Posted: Mon, 16th May 2016 00:55 Post subject: |
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| guvna wrote: | | deelix wrote: | Would be nice to let some professional drivers actually try out ALL the different driving games that claims to be sim racers/have a sim option . Probably only Assetto Corsa, pCars and LFS that would come close to be called a proper car simulator. |
By now most professional drivers and teams use sims for practice and even setup tests. Heck I see one of the best v8supercar drivers frequently practicing in iracing, scotty mclaughlin. No sim is outright best but many are considered proper car simulators.
Rfactorpro is the one I've seen used most by teams, strange you didn't mention rf2 since it's by far the most advanced engine. I've seen acpro around some too I think the ferrari f1 team uses it. Man I'd love to get my hands on some of those proprietary car models
Pcars on the other hand is more simcade and isn't very realistic compared to the ones I mentioned. |
One of my recurring dreams is to have one of those official sim-stations boldly and aggressively positioned in my living room, but alas, it's not exactly doable.
I also remember Ferrari Virtual Academy (which I think it's been discontinued) being used as a training "tool" by Massa some years ago, not a coincidence since it was made by Kunos as well.
Some GT drivers back in the day also would spend hours on the good ol' GTR2 (NAPP Mod), but today as you said there are more polished alternatives around.
Wish pCars allowed for some in-depth modding, just imagine what the community could do if the physics-related parameters were adjustable/tweakable *shakes fist*, some of the so-so cars and dodgy behaviors would get "fixed" like in the Shift 2 days, leading to massive improvements. 
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MannyK
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Posted: Mon, 16th May 2016 01:01 Post subject: |
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Rubens Barrichello also plays on iRacing. There were also a tournament with some drivers from Stock Car on that "Stock Car Extreme"
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dethy
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Posted: Mon, 16th May 2016 01:27 Post subject: |
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wow, iRacing is expensive heh
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Posted: Mon, 16th May 2016 13:39 Post subject: |
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update is out, 236mb
patches the game to the new uwp version -> v-sync can be deactivated, as well as framelimiter implemented and fixes for amd systems
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Posted: Mon, 16th May 2016 15:05 Post subject: |
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is this same as forza 6 on xbox one?
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Posted: Mon, 16th May 2016 15:30 Post subject: |
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Microsoft/Turn10 have claimed that any future Forza titles will come to Win10 alongside Xbox, so no Forza5/6/Horizon now, but Horizon 3 and/or Forza 7 will. Allegedly.
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LeoNatan
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Posted: Mon, 16th May 2016 15:43 Post subject: |
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I wonder if new /full/ games will have monetization like this one does. Unlock Aventador for just 0.99$ #omg #mssavingpcgaeming #totallyworthit
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Posted: Tue, 17th May 2016 10:42 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | | Microsoft/Turn10 have claimed that any future Forza titles will come to Win10 alongside Xbox, so no Forza5/6/Horizon now, but Horizon 3 and/or Forza 7 will. Allegedly. |
With their groundbreaking Windows Store.
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Posted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2016 22:43 Post subject: |
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game got patched a few mins ago, update ~78,5mb
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Version 1.1.10.0 Release Notes
Here are the release notes for today's update for Forza Motorsport 6: Apex:
• We have added a selection of curated community liveries to Apex. Players can select from these liveries from the Paint Car option in the game.
• Players now have the option to unlock framerate when Dynamic Optimization is set to Custom
• Players can now disable MSAA and Anisotropic Filtering when Dynamic Optimization is set to Custom
• Saved photos can now be shared through Driver Record > Forza Gallery
• We have addressed issue with cars not unlocking until you reload the car list
• Fixed issue where players would need to reload Career Tours to unlock Spotlight Events if they finished the career on an earlier play through
• Fixed issue where pins in the ‘Raptor Strike’ Career Tour event do not properly reset if a players uses rewind
• Fixed a case where some users are experiencing an ‘infinite’ loading screen when launching events
• Additional bug fixes
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Posted: Thu, 7th Jul 2016 14:43 Post subject: |
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new update is out, 80mb
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Version 1.3.11.0 Release Notes
Here are the release notes for the most recent version of Forza Motorsport 6: Apex:
• Enable in-race FPS counter through Video Options
• Difficulty balancing for Drivatar AI
• Optimized objectives in some Tour events
• Tuned time bonuses for some Tour events
• Resolved issue where changing certain Video Options did not have any effect
• Resolved some cases of stalls and hitches during race
• Additional bug fixes and improvements
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ixigia
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Posted: Sat, 30th Jul 2016 01:28 Post subject: |
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After the upgrade I told myself, why not, let's try the Forza Ape Piaggio d̶e̶m̶o redux made for us, Personal Console users, since I've always been curious to see what the fuss was all about. Well well well
That was underwhelming, in every possible way. Even with all the assists disabled, the handling always feels wonky and artificially gamey, with unnatural oversteer-based automated movements and fubar physics. Not to mention the collisions, with that fake bump sound and poor feedback overall like in the autoscooters..dammit. The visuals and performance are definitely better, clean and running at comfortable 60fps (High) on my system, although while the models themselves and textures are great, the rest (particle effects, tracks, rain, shadows) are fairly basic and the final result isn't exactly a photo-realistic one to put it mildly.
This game makes Project Cars look and play like a masterpiece, let alone Assetto Corsa or Reiza's games. Thanks for the saving attempt Mycroft, but..we're ok. 
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Morphineus
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Posted: Sat, 30th Jul 2016 01:39 Post subject: |
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How can he say?!?!
Forza iz deh bezt!

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ixigia
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Posted: Sat, 30th Jul 2016 01:49 Post subject: |
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Hahah *prepares the hammer of shame*
Now for the sake of completeness I should try Gran Turismo as well, but something tells me that the result would possibly be even worse. Better remain ignorant, which is a bliss in this case! 
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Morphineus
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Posted: Sat, 30th Jul 2016 01:52 Post subject: |
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I've been quite tempted to install the Forza... but after that NFS trial at EA I think I had enough of those dorito racers for a bit. 
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Posted: Sat, 30th Jul 2016 13:26 Post subject: |
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| Morphineus wrote: | I've been quite tempted to install the Forza... but after that NFS trial at EA I think I had enough of those dorito racers for a bit.  |
Im the other way around, i rly want to play the new nfs game, but everyone says its crap.
As far as forza goes, i installed, it, graphics are superb, driving is somewhere between a bit sim and a bit arcadey, the more arcadey is to me tthe better, because i really im not that good with cars That beeing said, i prefer Drive club to forza.. but its still a good game.
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