Gothic II
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Martar




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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Dec 2005 01:35    Post subject:
Reg67 wrote:
AnimalMother wrote:
Trismogestos wrote:
Gothic.II.Gold.Edition.BWClone-MiRROR

Finally!


Ah yes, the shit!


Yep great stuff, but fricking hell.. talk about a pain in the arse to burn/install.. im gonna buy it anyway.. A game like gothic is well worth 30 quid


Damn strait! I bought it yesterday at the mall while christmas shopping.. hehehe Guess Santa came a little early for me this year.. LOL


I bought the first one, now this one, and will be more than happy to buy Gothic 3 when it comes out.. Good games like these deserve our support!!!
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Swinefur
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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Dec 2005 01:41    Post subject:
I _tried_ play Gothic 2, However, the controls was somewhat half-assed.
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A-A




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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Dec 2005 14:00    Post subject:
This is amazing, im running it in high detail with no drop in frame
rates its amazing how things have moved on compared to
when i first played gothic 2 my system had to have things
on high performance with alot of the distance turned back.

It looks like a completely different game, plus the expansion
i never played.. time to spend many hrs on this again Very Happy
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slak




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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Dec 2005 14:20    Post subject:
Swinefur wrote:
I _tried_ play Gothic 2, However, the controls was somewhat half-assed.


NO YOU ARE!

Seriously though, you get used to the controls and after a while you really can't imagine playing Gothic any other way. I strongly suggest you try it again and give it some time, it will be well worth it.


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JediBob




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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Dec 2005 14:30    Post subject:
Same problem as Swinefur. Was a bit appalled by the shoddy controls, shite graphics, and poor stability. I don't doubt there's a gem hidden in there, but I can't be arsed to dig it out, so I'll wait for Gothic 3.
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-DJK-




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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Dec 2005 16:17    Post subject:
JediBob wrote:
Same problem as Swinefur. Was a bit appalled by the shoddy controls, shite graphics, and poor stability. I don't doubt there's a gem hidden in there, but I can't be arsed to dig it out, so I'll wait for Gothic 3.


Bad graphics ? what are you smoking, I always (and still) think the gfx in Gothic 2 rocks, at least with view distance all the way
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Kamikaze666




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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Dec 2005 16:40    Post subject:
gothic2 is the shit... any graphical enhancements in the addon?


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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Dec 2005 16:42    Post subject:
JediBob wrote:
Same problem as Swinefur. Was a bit appalled by the shoddy controls, shite graphics, and poor stability. I don't doubt there's a gem hidden in there, but I can't be arsed to dig it out, so I'll wait for Gothic 3.


Don't worry, you probably won't like Gothic 3 either as I hear being an idiot is incurable.Laughing


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JediBob




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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Dec 2005 16:52    Post subject:
Well, you should know. Razz
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Dec 2005 17:36    Post subject:
JediBob wrote:
Well, you should know. Razz


Yeah, because as I said, I heard that it's incurable. I guess stating the obvious comes with being an idiot?

Point is, if you've got no patience I don't see how you could ever have enjoyed an RPG. So why did you expect it to be any different with Gothic?

Plus, your statement about the graphics is completely false. So what are you, an idiot or a liar?


"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D

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Lemonized




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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Dec 2005 17:43    Post subject:
i finished the regular Gothic II twice, dont think i can be bothered to do it all again Sad
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bill_the_one




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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Dec 2005 18:09    Post subject:
I've beaten it one time (without the addon) as a paladin... i'm gonna try again with the addon as a mercenary ! Very Happy
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Reg67




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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Dec 2005 19:06    Post subject:
Whilst the graphics in any RPG do matter, they are really not the important aspect they may be in say a FPS or similar..

Anyone that loves RPG's simply because they are 'RPG's' knows that the fun part is the exploration, the levelling, the finding/winning great weapons or armour.. all those things and more..

Gothics graphics are top notch for the time the games were released. I personally had no problems with the controls and cannot see the problem. Also the game is rock solid with regards to stability.. If you think about the problems Morrowind had/has.. Gothic could quite easily suffer from the same CTD's etc

The 2 main things i really dislike about Gothic 2 are .. the ridiculous voice acting and the lack of a compass

A little discussed aspect of RPG's is the music.. I think its very important for setting a scene, and the music in the Gothic games is great..
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Lemonized




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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Dec 2005 19:13    Post subject:
Reg67 wrote:
The 2 main things i really dislike about Gothic 2 are .. the ridiculous voice acting and the lack of a compass


The original (german) version has pretty good voice acting Smile
And i guess i agree about the compass
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KrazyKenny




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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Dec 2005 20:08    Post subject:
Lemonized wrote:
Reg67 wrote:
The 2 main things i really dislike about Gothic 2 are .. the ridiculous voice acting and the lack of a compass


The original (german) version has pretty good voice acting Smile
And i guess i agree about the compass


you just have to buy a map, and you will never ever get lost again (never had the problem Very Happy)

and yes, in german the voice really sounds good.
can't compare to engl. Version, as i played it in german.


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Glottis
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PostPosted: Sun, 18th Dec 2005 18:50    Post subject:
Release works just fine, but I have a question. I never played Gothic 2, do I need to finish it first and only then play addon? I installed addon and there is no way to run original Gothic 2 :/


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Venn




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PostPosted: Sun, 18th Dec 2005 18:52    Post subject:
afaik the addon is just that... and addon. In fact, you start a game, and after a bit of playing you can get to the new areas. Kinda like Morrowind and its expansions.
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bill_the_one




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PostPosted: Sun, 18th Dec 2005 21:00    Post subject:
gamer-888 wrote:
i installed it with DT4 and it works fine....but it's the same gothic 2 :S

is it the same game with the same plot, but just with some new areas and quests? (but same plot?). cuz although it's a really good game, i dont feel like playing all over again the same thing...


U can do like me : play the same main quest but with another charcater (u can choose between Paladin, Mercenary or Guild Magician...)

From what i read on some gothic 2 forums, it can be enjoyable to play the game twice with another character (lot of different quests in fact)
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Glottis
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PostPosted: Sun, 18th Dec 2005 22:51    Post subject:
I just started the game and it feels like crazy hard, there's absolutely no tutorial or anything explaining game mechanics, monsters hit for insane ammounts of damage, I mean c'mon, I just started a bloody game gimme a fuckin break. Kinda sucks that I need to save/load every two mins because I can die in seconds behind every corner. I played for 3 hours or so and half the time was doing same shit again because I died so much.


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muhahahaha




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PostPosted: Sun, 18th Dec 2005 23:38    Post subject:
Glottis wrote:
I just started the game and it feels like crazy hard, there's absolutely no tutorial or anything explaining game mechanics, monsters hit for insane ammounts of damage, I mean c'mon, I just started a bloody game gimme a fuckin break. Kinda sucks that I need to save/load every two mins because I can die in seconds behind every corner. I played for 3 hours or so and half the time was doing same shit again because I died so much.


Stay away from forests until you get decent armor and weapon.
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Poisonous Mind




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Dec 2005 00:05    Post subject:
Glottis wrote:
I just started the game and it feels like crazy hard, there's absolutely no tutorial or anything explaining game mechanics, monsters hit for insane ammounts of damage, I mean c'mon, I just started a bloody game gimme a fuckin break. Kinda sucks that I need to save/load every two mins because I can die in seconds behind every corner. I played for 3 hours or so and half the time was doing same shit again because I died so much.


old gothic 2 was easier , edit gothic2.ini to use the key potions , and get some decent armor , you can buy one from matteo and like muhhha said stay away from all caves and forrests
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Dec 2005 02:24    Post subject:
Glottis wrote:
I just started the game and it feels like crazy hard, there's absolutely no tutorial or anything explaining game mechanics, monsters hit for insane ammounts of damage, I mean c'mon, I just started a bloody game gimme a fuckin break. Kinda sucks that I need to save/load every two mins because I can die in seconds behind every corner. I played for 3 hours or so and half the time was doing same shit again because I died so much.


What the hell are you doing? Running off into the woods at night?

You can take goblins, young wolves/fieldraiders and bloodflies no problem at level 1. Just use a bit of tact. After you get into the city, do a few shit jobs (especially the one where you persuade the guy to go hunting with you: Mad exp) then buy better armor and a better weapon, train your skills a bit and you're off. You don't even have to kill anything to get exp in the city, just know what you're doing.


"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D

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Martar




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Dec 2005 00:45    Post subject:
Ya, Im betting they made it harder and w/o the tutorial on purpose assuming the addon was being used by veterans seeking to continue their G2 experience...

I havent started my game yet, but I heard it makes you start completely over w/ the Addon installed.... Is this true?
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Avenger_




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Dec 2005 03:02    Post subject:
Yeah, the start is just the same, only some NPC's, areas, and quests has been added to the default game world.
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Martar




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Dec 2005 11:00    Post subject:
Avenger_ wrote:
Yeah, the start is just the same, only some NPC's, areas, and quests has been added to the default game world.


How far into it does it start to make an obvious change? Just Curious...
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Dec 2005 11:16    Post subject:
Martar wrote:
Avenger_ wrote:
Yeah, the start is just the same, only some NPC's, areas, and quests has been added to the default game world.


How far into it does it start to make an obvious change? Just Curious...


That really depends on you. You're given the infromation to go seeking a major new quest early on, it's up to you if you pursue it.


"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D

"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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Martar




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Dec 2005 23:28    Post subject:
OIC.

Well I should be starting it up today sometime, so Ill be finding out soon enough anyway! LOL

I wish Ultima Ascention would have had a release after it too... I LOVED that game, after the bugs were sorted out that is.. That was the first game I had bought where they actually MAILED me a NEW version because the original disc release was SOOO buggy they just decided to release a new disc... LOL ... ahhh the good'ol'days!
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saddamhussein




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PostPosted: Tue, 27th Dec 2005 12:53    Post subject:
Martar wrote:
OIC.

Well I should be starting it up today sometime, so Ill be finding out soon enough anyway! LOL

I wish Ultima Ascention would have had a release after it too... I LOVED that game, after the bugs were sorted out that is.. That was the first game I had bought where they actually MAILED me a NEW version because the original disc release was SOOO buggy they just decided to release a new disc... LOL ... ahhh the good'ol'days!


yup good ol ultima. I loved travelling with my boat! I guess it still won't run without lag today on any pc, but who cares...

But gothic series are better. especially gothic2!
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Acer




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PostPosted: Tue, 27th Dec 2005 20:06    Post subject:
Got the reloaded release, but cant start it. Nothing happens when i run the executable file in system folder or the shortcut.
Installed the expansion plus original...


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mcsolar




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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Dec 2005 13:10    Post subject:
wow thi game is the best
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