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Stige




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Mar 2016 12:07    Post subject:
Or just install Classic Shell or StartIsBack to fix this fucking cancer that they call UI in Win10...
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Janz




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Mar 2016 13:49    Post subject:
cause the feature is just to new for him (introduced in 8.1) Very Happy

and last thing about the ie: ofc its still present in 10 cause of companies using ass old applets which need the ie. and sure there are still machines running nt4.0 stuff (think a few weeks ago there was report in the media that a big airport in france, most likely charles de gaule in paris, using an nt 4.0 machine for flight tracking systems...)
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AmpegV4




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Mar 2016 14:14    Post subject:
moosenoodles wrote:

Why not just right click on the start icon and click control panel?


Yes they add a new shortcut but why change things that are not broken and already work fine? It's like replacing the steering wheel of a car with a dildo.

moosenoodles: "but you can suck the dildo and it drives"
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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Mar 2016 17:25    Post subject:
Do I get a full version of Win10 if I take that free upgrade from my pirated Win8.1? I want to get in the cool DX12 crowd Sad
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freiwald




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Mar 2016 17:29    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
Do I get a full version of Win10 if I take that free upgrade from my pirated Win8.1? I want to get in the cool DX12 crowd Sad

yes, but no retail key. also it only works until you change your hardware. then you can upgrade again from 8.1 because your activation will vanish.
probably no problem because the free activation thing will last longer then the promised one year. they can't afford to lose any customers. they will keep this free upgrade program running for the next years.
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D34Dite




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PostPosted: Sun, 13th Mar 2016 12:13    Post subject:
as a pc repair technician i know windows 10 has been downloaded on the quiet on pretty much every win 7 and win 8/8.1 computer/laptop i have seen recently,(even illegal versions of those OSs) but i was contacted by a couple of clients over the last few days telling me that windows 10 installed ITSELF, without the users telling it to install, no notifications or anything...now i dont know if this is true, but i know one of those clients isnt the sort to just "poke about in windows" - their pc is used for a milking parlour and they just leave it totally alone, except when they need to print off dairy records. big brother, much.force people to use windows 10 by hook or by crook, much


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tonizito
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PostPosted: Sun, 13th Mar 2016 12:16    Post subject:
Seems to be true, I've seen some people complaining about having win10 installed all of a sudden this past week:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-performance/windows-10-involuntary-forced-upgrade-eula/7369ec17-1a6f-48da-8e37-3abf75111277
https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/4a0asv/warning_windows_7_computers_are_being_reported_as/

Brilliant Laughing

Good job microsoft, now they're all gonna buy macs the next time they upgrade Cool Face


boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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freiwald




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PostPosted: Sun, 13th Mar 2016 12:42    Post subject:
ofc guys. its the superior os and somehow ms has to make sure that the outdated and unsecure windows 7 and 8.1 gets replaced.

 Spoiler:
 
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Janz




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PostPosted: Sun, 13th Mar 2016 14:11    Post subject:
i would have been proud of you son, but that spoiler tag ruins it Rolling Eyes
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Sun, 13th Mar 2016 14:40    Post subject:
Janz i'm with you:
Win10 is the best.
Those few Win7 users left are hating on it just because they would be unable to configure it right.
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zibztrollingme




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PostPosted: Sun, 13th Mar 2016 18:00    Post subject:
Think Win 10 tries to repeatedly install itself on my Win 7. I know that because it keeps crashing when it tries Very Happy
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Morphineus
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Mar 2016 01:44    Post subject:
I'm starting with testing out the new Win today on my Retrobox (Runs on the TV with my emulators, Kodi and also used for Steam streaming co-op games). Seeing how the upgrades and installs go in the first place (going to upgrade and re-install a few times) after that: checking out all the new stuff, messing around in it setting it up until I'm somewhat satisfied. Just making sure that everything will work or what will need fixing.

Should be time enough before the free offer ends (probably will get extended anyway) so that I can start prepping our two main systems and switch over to 10.

But hey... I was just lazy,ignorant or too stupid or what where people shouting again to the ones not having made the switch yet? Razz

Took longer than expected, started at 0.00 and it finished the upgrade just now. Hopefully it will throw up more crap at me the next days. So far it was only the setup being stuck at 0% when looking for upgrades. Fairly easy to fix.


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tonizito
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Mar 2016 02:31    Post subject:
Morphineus wrote:
But hey... I was just lazy,ignorant or too stupid or what where people shouting again to the ones not having made the switch yet? Razz
If gaming is your main activity, in most cases it's not necessary, yet. Six more months or so when DX12 titles/updates start popping up regularly, then it will make sense to upgrade since up to now I didn't find anything that ran slow/bad enough to make me consider all the hassle involved with the upgrade.


boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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Morphineus
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Mar 2016 02:46    Post subject:
Yup, I still don't feel the need for it. Just was the right time seeing I was going to redo the third system. Gives me the right opportunity to test it all out. Main systems aren't planned for another 2 months.


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DV2




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Mar 2016 18:47    Post subject:
Including fixes etc and for Yarrries to fix up activations and more W10 errors the easiest and fastest way.. Also W10 updated ISOs to save some time getting W.Updates ;D


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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Mar 2016 19:25    Post subject:
Just what man!


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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Mar 2016 20:54    Post subject:
DV2 wrote:
Also W10 updated ISOs to save some time getting W.Updates ;D


The MSDN ISO's with all updates were released on MDL last week. They are up to date as of February 2016. Smile
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Janz




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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Mar 2016 20:55    Post subject:
same goes for images downloaded via the media creation tool, you just have to redownload the tool from ms' website, otherwise it would still dl the old files

but it isnt that big problem at all cause of the cumulative update system
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tw1st




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Mar 2016 12:11    Post subject:
I was very hesitant at first, but I'm pretty much fine with it now. Yes there are some annoying pieces, and having to use tools to block shit, and prevent driver updates gets tiring fast... but once you get going it's pretty simple.

if it's going to happen anyway, might as well bite the bullet and get used to it now.


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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Mar 2016 05:48    Post subject:
Your device is up to date. Last checked: Today, ‏‎03:18

^^ irritates the fuck outta me ^^

NO MS!!, my 'SYSTEM' is up to date, or my 'PC' is up to date, not my fuckin 'DEVICE' (like its some shitty MS phone).

Thank you.
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Janz




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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Mar 2016 09:56    Post subject:
one core ftw bru Wink

it says device cause it says the same on desktop, notebooks, tablets, phones and xboner (x86,x64,arm) cause everything uses the same code.

wheres the problem?
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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Mar 2016 03:33    Post subject:
I don't give a shit what it says elsewhere. I have Android saying my many 'devices' are up to date, and that's fine.

I use a PC, and I call it a 'system', not a 'device', so I would like MS to call it so.

Thank you.
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thudo




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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Mar 2016 07:15    Post subject:
Are You Serious They can call it "yer sh*tty outdated PC" for all I care so long as it updates as it should and doesn't throw on excess crap.. oh wait.. You Suspicious Be


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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Mar 2016 11:00    Post subject:
Quote:
Let's talk about Windows 10, my least favorite subject right now. At the end of last year I announced that for personal and professional reasons, I would not be doing a TweakGuides Tweaking Companion for Windows 10, but that I would try to compile a brief Windows 10 tweak guide. Well I've tried, and I'm just not finding it possible to write a decent but brief guide. Windows 10 is an ever-changing, non-transparent, disjointed mess of an OS. Many of its annoyances can't be successfully tweaked away, and those that can require pages and pages of explanation. Furthermore, any such guide would require constant editing over time as Microsoft alters Windows 10 on almost a monthly basis now.

But perhaps the single biggest reason I'm not motivated to write a Windows 10 guide is that I've rapidly lost all respect for Microsoft, and consequently have lost a great deal of interest in anything to do with their products. Microsoft's clumsy, desperate, visionless push to get PC users to adopt dumbed-down mobile-oriented apps purely for their own commercial benefit; the unrelentingly persistent, unethical, and highly deceptive way they're trying to trick less tech-savvy Windows 7 and 8.1 users into "upgrading" to Windows 10; and their insistence on reducing user choice and control over Windows have all left a very bad taste in my mouth. This is an inept company struggling for relevance in the mobile era by shamelessly abusing its monopoly on desktop operating systems, and I don't want to play any part in helping them do that.
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boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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DV2




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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Mar 2016 11:29    Post subject:
I have a tiny question:

Is there any tweaking program that lets you choose multiple options to tweak out (check boxes) and, once you're ready to apply them, instead of doing so, you can sae aaaaaaaaaaall that fucking config you've done and EXPORT IT INTO A FILE so incase you format W10 or something, you can then import such file to not waste any time re-checking everything out?

A Time saver i mean..


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Mar 2016 22:06    Post subject:
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tolanri




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Mar 2016 22:17    Post subject:
Pretty nice. I like to use some linux common tools from time to tim.

Now if only they also included some compiler in default windows installation to make installing some python modules that require compiling binaries easy.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Mar 2016 22:36    Post subject:
Well, couldn't you just "apt-get gcc"? Supposedly this all native Linux code so I don't see why a compiler wouldn't be easy enough to download Very Happy
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tolanri




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Mar 2016 22:50    Post subject:
Depends on what packages they'll have in the windows repository. I am also curious if canonical or MS is going to be the maintainer. I fear they'll abandon it shortly after release.
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Mar 2016 23:52    Post subject:
Build 14295 is now available via the slow ring, fast ring should see a new update shortly and there will be new ISO images available too of (preview/insider) build 14295 shortly.
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