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Danyutz




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Feb 2016 13:16    Post subject: Upgrade soon
Alright men, inbound for upgrade, I plan to switch to Intel in the following months, but if the connoisseurs in this domain advise to wait until AMD launches it's new CPUs, i will wait.

Running FX8320, with 8gb HyperX in dual channel on MSi 970A-G43, want to change these only.

Budget ~500$, looking for something up-to-date, that will run for another 2-3 years.
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Morphineus
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Feb 2016 13:21    Post subject:
Might be best to post some local shops or the ones you are willing to order from. That way you or others don't have to worry about sticking to a budget you put up. Smile


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Janz




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Feb 2016 13:22    Post subject:
z170 board, i7 6700k ~ 500 bucks. + 80 bucks for for 16gb ddr4 + 20 for cpu cooler

will suit you a long time, ok slighty above your budget but its worth it
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Danyutz




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Feb 2016 13:25    Post subject:
I can probably raise the budget if it's really worth it. Will I be needing 16gigs?
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StrEagle




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Feb 2016 13:26    Post subject:
yes


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and yes, mine is only average
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Janz




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Feb 2016 13:35    Post subject:
not needing atm, but its cheap and just the small part of the budget (remember times where i had to pay that for 8gb of ddr3 cause some facility burned down again in china Very Happy). and comes in handy when using vms
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Danyutz




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Feb 2016 13:41    Post subject:
Tbh i was looking at the same components, but I needed pro advice and it seems to me it's like a pattern, you want some of the best, this this and this.
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Janz




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Feb 2016 13:49    Post subject:
just get a z-board which offers all slots and connectors you need. since we are going full "best" and that includes oc (maybe in the future but not right now) it might be better to spend a bit more right now. that means a huge cpu cooler like the Noctua NH-D15 (which is fucking expensive, about 80 bucks), there are plenty of good coolers which cost only the half, but im not into it right now which is the best, google will help you

as board: for example ASUS Z170 Pro Gaming or the slightly cheaper ASRock Z170 Extreme4 + 2x8GB DDR4 2133mhz (or faster ram, but that gets a bit more expensive again)
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tonizito
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Feb 2016 13:57    Post subject:
If you plan to install a proper cooler make sure you avoid tall ass memory modules, like so:



Because then your choice for a cooler may be limited by that, unless you get a slanted cooler like the Macho.


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Danyutz




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Feb 2016 14:03    Post subject:
Noctua is also large, I might have to change the case as well.
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Danyutz




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Feb 2016 14:21    Post subject:
Made a quick simulation, well shit. Already converted prices to $

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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Feb 2016 14:23    Post subject:
But you get a free toy bro worth 2.5 bucks. How can you refuse that? Reaction


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StrEagle




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Feb 2016 14:23    Post subject:
whoa at that cooler
you can probably get a MACHO for 50$ which is the best in it's price range


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and yes, mine is only average
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Danyutz




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Feb 2016 14:26    Post subject:
russ, any other stores you know of? purchased most of my parts off pcgarage before... Sad
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russ80




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Feb 2016 14:28    Post subject:
I usually go with emag, sometimes pcgarage when they dont have what i want in stock.

Havent used any other shops.

I just thought it was hilarious how they decided to bundle the 6700k with a toy


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Danyutz




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Feb 2016 14:31    Post subject:
emag isn't competitive enough on this side anymore. I got my gpu from emag tho, because they had the best deal.

When i saw the bundle I thought it's a game, why would someone who buys a top-end gpu would need a toy? Laughing
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tonizito
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Feb 2016 14:31    Post subject:
StrEagle wrote:
whoa at that cooler
you can probably get a MACHO for 50$ which is the best in it's price range
Pretty much, it's one of the best. Unless you plan to do some extremely serious air OC I'd drop the noctua for a cheaper cooler.
Also, maybe get a 6600K instead of the 6700K?


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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Feb 2016 14:31    Post subject:
Go for faster RAM, IMO. at least 2666 with ddr 4.


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StrEagle




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Feb 2016 14:42    Post subject:
and there will be what, 1% fps difference?
ram speed is the least important
SSD is the best investment
next is the GPU


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and yes, mine is only average
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Janz




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Feb 2016 14:43    Post subject:
uf those prices are heavy, just looked at german euro prices (which are almost 1:1 dollar atm...). cooler 25 bucks cheaper, ram 25 bucks cheaper, cpu 50bucks cheaper, board 45 bucks cheaper.

hmmh, any other store available with better prices? if not as toni says: cheaper cooler and "only" the 6600k. 2666 might be 10 bucks more expensive but could be useful for oc
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StrEagle




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Feb 2016 14:44    Post subject:
if it's 10$ ok


Lutzifer wrote:
and yes, mine is only average
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Danyutz




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Feb 2016 14:46    Post subject:
I might buy from DE tho, because shipment won't cost me as much as the difference in our prices. Making a quick math on your prices, the difference is $145, which is considerable. Shipment won't be more than $20. I mean I bought bike parts from DE and were a lot heavier and only paid $20.
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StrEagle




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Feb 2016 14:50    Post subject:
just check your warranty, if you have to send them back in the event of a failure Laughing


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Danyutz




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Feb 2016 14:53    Post subject:
computeruniverse.net isn't so much of a deal, i got the same prices.
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Feb 2016 14:54    Post subject:
StrEagle wrote:
and there will be what, 1% fps difference?
ram speed is the least important
SSD is the best investment
next is the GPU


I agree, it's been years since RAM-speed was an important factor.. In fact, moving from 8GB DDR3 to 16GB DDR4 will probably not be noticeable at all. 8GB DDR4 is enough and will save you ~$40'ish.


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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Feb 2016 14:59    Post subject:
Only thing where high speed DDR4 gives significant performance improvements is if you have skylake i3.
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StrEagle




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Feb 2016 15:16    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
StrEagle wrote:
and there will be what, 1% fps difference?
ram speed is the least important
SSD is the best investment
next is the GPU


I agree, it's been years since RAM-speed was an important factor.. In fact, moving from 8GB DDR3 to 16GB DDR4 will probably not be noticeable at all. 8GB DDR4 is enough and will save you ~$40'ish.


I play games and regularly run at 8GB+ of RAM, currently:



Lutzifer wrote:
and yes, mine is only average
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Danyutz




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Feb 2016 15:54    Post subject:
Stock cooler of the i7 is that poor that it needs a replacement? I don't plan to OC to soon.
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Janz




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Feb 2016 16:00    Post subject:
i7 k is always delivered without a stock cooler
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Feb 2016 16:01    Post subject:
Danyutz wrote:
Stock cooler of the i7 is that poor that it needs a replacement? I don't plan to OC to soon.
No need for a cooler soon then. Might as well as get the 16GB of RAM then. Or an SSD if you haven't one already.


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