USB 2.0 to IDE For Harddisk turn it into USB .. is it fast
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ManBlooD




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Nov 2005 05:27    Post subject: USB 2.0 to IDE For Harddisk turn it into USB .. is it fast


i get this product to convert my IDE harddisk to USB but isn't faster at all
http://www.usbgeek.com/prod_detail.php?prod_id=0208

the R-Driver II was for some reason slightly slower. It managed only about 17.5 megabytes per second write speed, and around 19.5Mb/s read speed, in highly non-laboratory conditions. The older adapter managed 23 to 25Mb/s, which for a hundred gigabytes of data means waiting about 70 minutes, as opposed to about 90 for the R-Driver II (300Gb fansubbed anime collection at 17.5Mb/sec: Less than five hours). You may or may not care about this.

check this web site out .. for the product more info ..

i don't know it's not speed at all ..
here is review for it
http://www.dansdata.com/rdriver.htm

anyone use 3.5 harddisk for use with USB and work fast .. more fast like the normal cable please let me know which product you use .. ok
the only reason i wanted this for put the harddrive when the computer turned on .

i also found other product but i don't know if it's really will work fast or not
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817155704


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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Nov 2005 11:08    Post subject:
lmao, why on earth did you think that such an adapter cable is faster Laughing

Like the reviewer said:

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Most computer users will not for the life of them be able to think of a reason why they'd need a thing like the R-Driver II.
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ManBlooD




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Nov 2005 11:25    Post subject:
the only reason i wanted this for put the harddrive when the computer turned on .


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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Nov 2005 11:55    Post subject:
Theortical Data Rates:

USB - Low Speed 1,5 MBit/s = 0,1875 MB/s
USB - Full Speed 12 MBit/s = 1,5 MB/s
USB - High Speed 480 MBit/s = 60 MB/s
(USB Hosts only deliver 240 Mbit/s = 30MB/s, so a performance cap)

SATA - 150 MB/s (MEGABYTES not Megabit)
SATA II - 300 MB/s

FireWire - ~3145 MBit/s = 393MB/s

IDE - ATA/ATAPI4 (Ultra-DMA-33) - 33 MB/s
IDE - ATA/ATAPI5 (Ultra-DMA-66) - 66 MB/s
IDE - ATA/ATAPI6 (Ultra-DMA-100) - 100 MB/s
IDE - ATA/ATAPI7 (Ultra-DMA-133) - 133 MB/s

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So FireWire > SATA > IDE (assuming anything better then UDMA33) > USB

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Always remember the used harddrive may not deliver these rates. Actually no drive does. So as long as your harddrive isnt faster than 30MB/s (a lot !). The connected Bus wont be much of a performance loss. Just translating between USB and IDE.
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ManBlooD




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Nov 2005 12:15    Post subject:
tRanSwarP : thanks alot for the info .. but what about if i want to put my current Harddisks when the computer working .. i have alot of harddisks ..

check the http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18292

this is the photo of my computer .. so you understand me now

if you know better faster product please let me know or other solution ..


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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Nov 2005 12:21    Post subject:
tRanSwarP wrote:
FireWire - ~3145 MBit/s = 393MB/s


well, right now IEEE1394 is at 800MBit/s, 1600 and 3200MBit/s may never appear, now that Apple will use Intel hardware.
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Nov 2005 13:08    Post subject:
Even though Firewire runs at such high speeds, it is still bottlenecked by the hard drives in the machine. As I said in the other thread on a similar topic, new SATA drives are the way forward! Smile
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ManBlooD




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Nov 2005 13:37    Post subject:
the only reason i wanted this for put the harddrive when the computer turned on . even if it's same speed as cable that's all ..

do you know any product do that or i have to ask Dilbert to do it ?


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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Nov 2005 20:17    Post subject:
hmm, i'm not sure if i get what you are saying, you want to connect a hard drive to your pc while it is running? In that case all you have to do is to buy an external usb/fireware hard drive case.
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Nov 2005 22:21    Post subject:
I'm using This little mofo, and it's working perfect.
Can change to whatever disc I want to have in it, and turn it on / off when my computer is running..

$73 USD


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tRanSwarP




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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Dec 2005 13:55    Post subject:
AFAIK SATA2 also supports Hotplugging.

Putting in and out Hardisks while the PC is running.

So a External SATA Interface would do the same as a USB Adapter, with better speed. Unfortunately i dont know if there are any IDE(PATA) to SATA adapters.

So hardwarecost may be a bit high Wink

Besides SCSI also supports hotplugging. Come to think of it no one mentioned it ?!
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