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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Jul 2015 05:12    Post subject:
300ms always for no reason but drm is stupid. Other than pandering for noobs what does d3 do better than LOD. Skillsystem sucks, attributes sucks, itemization sucks, cinematics worse, story worse, bosses scripted horrible worse, mods none / worse, randomization worse it just goes on. You can't patch that stuff..

Skill system is my fave after so much debating pre release, so genius new exciting skill system = just pick any skill at anytime (insert laughing Spaniard). For me d3 is the most disappointing game i have ever played, unlimited money, time, resources and talent = not even daikatana failed to that proportion.
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ZezoS




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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Jul 2015 06:27    Post subject:
Game's not as bad as ppl say, but i do agree that the game just doesn't justify the time it took to be made. But im pretty sure Blizz work hours during Diablo III development was milking WoW for 7 hours and work 1h in other franchises Laughing
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Jul 2015 10:20    Post subject:
i think most people have a very selective memory when it comes to D2/LOD

It's not about "defending" D3 or anything, but just a little reminder what D2 mostly was (especially with LOD). Add to that, i still loved D2 and played it extensively for many years (like 7+ and then every now and then again).

Anyway :

Story :

Yeah ... what story ? You run after Diablo and come across his Brothers and basically everything he did and does failed. Think about it. Diablo was absolute fail. Anyway, the story really was never anything to write home about, let alone to play the game for it (once you paid maybe some attention, but not even the first time really).

Skills :

Before synergies, the skill system was really fucked up. Basically you just spend 1 point in each skill needed to eventually reach the level 24/30 skill you would use for the rest of the game. And also it meant that everyone and their mother used the same skills. Come on, either frozen orb or firewall ...

Basically each class had a set of 2-3 skills to choose from and max out and that was it.

The came synergies and it got somewhat better, but not that much. The defined skill sets were still there, they just changed a bit. Fireball became attractive and blizzard etc. It added some builds, sure, but marginally.

Items/Loot :

D2 Classic was the best itemization/loot wise. At that point, Uniques were rarely every useful, with a very few exceptions (and sets even less, since they didn't had any hidden extras iirc).

Other then a few uniques like tarnhelm (+1 skill, +x mf%), soj's, silks and a few more. Also uniques only dropped as normal items, not exceptional or elite versions.

But it didn't matter. Rare items were where it was. They were truly unique. It was almost impossible to see (let alone find) the same rare twice. Of course they didn't all have different stats, obviously, but chances that you would see the same one twice (above a certain level anyway, low level items had a bigger chance of being the same).

Anyway, rare items were actually useful, but also just "so far". Basically it came down to maxing "one of those 2 or 3 possible skill sets" and finding that 1 rare per slot and that was basically it. After that it was just a huge grind to reach 99 (which almost nobody ever did in d2 classic ...if ever ... at least not pre-bot game era lol).

But at leat it has proper random pvp. I give it that.

Oh and then comes LOD and suddenly it all became about getting that BiS unique for each slot. Again, not much of a diversion. There was not much of a choice really at the end.

And then with a patch or 2 later, Uniques got replaced by BiS Runewords ... and the same story again.

At least D2 Classic had (almost) no "proper" BiS items.

Anyway, you can compare this to d3 if you want. I on purpose didn't.

Just my 2 cents Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Jul 2015 11:34    Post subject:


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Sin317
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Jul 2015 11:50    Post subject:
yeah the ptr queues are a joke, i give you that lol.
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babioraz




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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Jul 2015 13:06    Post subject:
that's what happens when game just into almost dead state. then blizzard shuts down 9/10 of servers. and when they bring up notes of upcoming patch (which they should do every month), the hype slowly builds up, but they won't launch more servers just for ptr. And yet again faithfull fans of blizzard are fucked until patch goes live. And even then u will have those insane waiting times for a game u paid for... but cant play when u want and how u want Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Jul 2015 13:09    Post subject:
online-only DRM FTW


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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Jul 2015 13:09    Post subject:
babioraz wrote:
that's what happens when game just into almost dead state. then blizzard shuts down 9/10 of servers. and when they bring up notes of upcoming patch (which they should do every month), the hype slowly builds up, but they won't launch more servers just for ptr. And yet again faithfull fans of blizzard are fucked until patch goes live. And even then u will have those insane waiting times for a game u paid for... but cant play when u want and how u want Smile


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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Jul 2015 13:09    Post subject:
Just hilarious when people call a game dead.
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Jul 2015 13:13    Post subject:
flipp wrote:
Just hilarious when people call a game dead.


Indeed. Even after 3 years they still making content for the Game. And the Game is good and far from dead. And those waiting times are for the PTR only btw.
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Jul 2015 13:14    Post subject:
Haters gonna hate Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Aug 2015 10:31    Post subject:
Btw, a huge patch will hit soon together with Season 4. I'm looking forward to starting a new seasonal hardcore character Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Aug 2015 10:31    Post subject:
can't wait for the 2.3 patch. Tried it on ptr and it seems rather fun. I've to say, i am quite happy and impressed with blizzards work on this game. The content they keep adding and balancing .. impressive.
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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Aug 2015 10:59    Post subject:
has S3 end been announced yet?
I think it's 2 week from the end announcement to the patch. (iirc)

nvm:

http://www.diablofans.com/blizz-tracker/topic/60003-season-3-ending-soon

and:
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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Aug 2015 12:08    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
can't wait for the 2.3 patch. Tried it on ptr and it seems rather fun. I've to say, i am quite happy and impressed with blizzards work on this game. The content they keep adding and balancing .. impressive.


Yeah this is much better than Elite Dangerous


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8ball




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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Aug 2015 23:11    Post subject:
2.3 isn't that great , 90% of the legendaries still suck all these years later and most of the loot is still garbage, this dev team fails so hard
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cyclonefr




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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Aug 2015 23:20    Post subject:
This thread is still alive?
Does 2.3 removes drm or is that still console only ? Laughing

I'm really impressed with the patches for this games lately Cool Face


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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Aug 2015 01:49    Post subject:
cyclonefr wrote:
Does 2.3 removes drm or is that still console only ? Laughing
Huh? Where did you hear that?
And btw bring the friking patch already!!


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cyclonefr




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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Aug 2015 04:09    Post subject:
I'm just trolling. I didn't read the patch note but I think I would have heard by now if removing DRM was planned.


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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Aug 2015 07:21    Post subject:
cyclonefr wrote:
This thread is still alive?
there is no black and white . no " what all good and bad" its ******* games which people have the right to enjoy.

Despite DRM,That I never personally supported. I think the game is pretty much fixed on PC with all patches etc...


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pillermann




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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Aug 2015 08:34    Post subject:
cyclonefr wrote:

Does 2.3 removes drm or is that still console only ? Laughing

No need for DRM on consoles; piracy happens only on PC.
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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Aug 2015 13:23    Post subject:
anyone willing to powerlevel a hc char to 70 when there is the final week of xp bonus ? should take like 10 mins or so unless they fixed all the poerlvl spots. Mine ripped at 61 arly in the season and didnt bother anymore haha
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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Aug 2015 00:18    Post subject:
tomorrow ?


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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Aug 2015 00:43    Post subject:
My co-worker really wanted someone to play with (he's a super cool guy) locally who isn't an idiot so asked me if he bought me reaper of souls if I'd pick it back up and said fuck it why not.

So far all I can say is with Reaper of Souls the game is a large amount better than vanilla D3, I've logged a ridiculous amount of hours in the last week or so.

Still a lot about the game I think is pure retarded and can't believe they haven't changed it yet but whatever, I'm having fun with it now.

If they don't bring back the fucking druid I'm going to snap someone's neck.


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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Aug 2015 22:48    Post subject:
Just had a legendary drop at lvl 15 that simultaneous enables all the runes of a certain skill; smashing things with it + all the other constant loot.. having way more fun now compared to the last time i played it (pre 2.0 or something) Very Happy


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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Sep 2015 20:27    Post subject:
Couldn't find a Diablo 2 page so here's an oral history of Diablo 2 by the guys who worked on it. Pretty fascinating

http://www.usgamer.net/articles/in-their-own-words-an-oral-history-of-diablo-ii-with-david-brevik-max-schaefer-and-erich-schaefer
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Veki




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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Sep 2015 22:14    Post subject:
It's in the Golden Oldies section :
http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=53255

Thanks for the article, nice read.


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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Oct 2015 15:37    Post subject:
http://kotaku.com/deadmau5-loses-top-hardcore-diablo-iii-character-due-to-1735139867

yay. online-only drm is so great. yay. server issues affecting singleplayer. yay.

Quote:

Losing a hardcore character sucks! But it happens. Roll a new one and better luck next time!


This kind of bullshit is what causes wars.
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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Oct 2015 16:24    Post subject:
Lost my sader due to a blackscreen bug that was introduced "for me" with the new patch. Never had that before. Stopped playing afterwards. I just don't want to bother with softcore but also not with losing shit due to bugs or disconnects.


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