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Muki




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jun 2015 11:32    Post subject:
Stige wrote:
Golden Dr. Boom, keep or disenchant and make other basic cards?

Broken as fuck apparently.


Keep until nerf, easy decision.
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Prandur




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jun 2015 12:38    Post subject:
Keep.
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devastator




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jun 2015 23:26    Post subject:
And here is my luck. Opened a damn Nat Bagel :/ after about 20 odd packs. :X
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Phil2003




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jun 2015 08:36    Post subject:
This first tavern brawl mode is maybe fun for the first time but gets boring fast. Hope they have something better next week. And its totaly unbalanced too imho.
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Przepraszam
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jul 2015 00:54    Post subject:
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KamamuraCZ




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jul 2015 03:43    Post subject:
Stige wrote:
Golden Dr. Boom, keep or disenchant and make other basic cards?

Broken as fuck apparently.


It's the strongest card in the game, so I don't know... disenchant maybe?
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KamamuraCZ




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jul 2015 03:46    Post subject:
Przepraszam wrote:
http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/19819218/the-grand-tournament%E2%84%A2-opens-this-august-7-22-2015

New expac coming next month!


Yea, people need to be milked for new OP cards, like all those mechs (annoyotron anyone?) or the Grim Patron.

There are still too many players like me who did not pay a dime yet Wink
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Phil2003




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jul 2015 09:21    Post subject:
KamamuraCZ wrote:
Przepraszam wrote:
http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/19819218/the-grand-tournament%E2%84%A2-opens-this-august-7-22-2015

New expac coming next month!


Yea, people need to be milked for new OP cards, like all those mechs (annoyotron anyone?) or the Grim Patron.

There are still too many players like me who did not pay a dime yet Wink


And it will stay this way... nearly have 4000 gold collected after the last expansion just by playing every day a few matches.
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Prandur




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jul 2015 10:03    Post subject:
Damnit, need to save up some gold (also a purely free player). What I really hate though is that arena rewards are no longer guaranteed to include a new card pack with the expansion - that was my primary way of getting cards, and it's getting nerfed to the ground.
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sausje
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jul 2015 11:32    Post subject:
Well you are still getting guaranteed packs, just not guaranteed that it's a pack from the latest expansion Wink

Quote:
Arena Reward Update

Beginning with the launch of The Grand Tournament, the Arena will no longer award players only Goblins vs Gnomes card packs. Instead, players will have a chance to receive a Grand Tournament card pack, Goblins vs Gnomes card pack, or a Classic card pack whenever a pack is awarded.


(yes it says "whenever a pack is awarded", but that doesn't imply that you can have runs without any packs now)


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KamamuraCZ




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jul 2015 13:10    Post subject:
That's strange, I thought the only way to get cards like Grim Patron is to buy the relevant expansion (either for gold or for real money), and win the encounters in the adventure.
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Prandur




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jul 2015 13:55    Post subject:
@sausje: I know, but packs which are not from the latest expansion will have very low value for me (since I already have almost all those cards). For GvG, I got all my cards by playing the arena - after getting to Legendary, the arena is all I play more or less (+ a few games per month to get the card backs).

@Kamamuracz: for adventure cards (Naxxramas, MC) that is the case, for normal cards (GvG, classic) you need to buy the packs or get them from the arena.
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Stige




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jul 2015 14:30    Post subject:
Tavern Brawls have been fun and stuff in the past but this latest one is just pure p2w glory.

Whoever has the most amount of expensive legendaries wins pretty much.
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devastator




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jul 2015 15:36    Post subject:
Not unless you are a priest Very Happy 2xMC tech 2xThought Steal 2xMind Games and 2xMC
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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jul 2015 15:55    Post subject:
add 2* death and 2* big game hunter and u make all the pay2win kiddies cry
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KamamuraCZ




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jul 2015 16:41    Post subject:
Stige wrote:
Tavern Brawls have been fun and stuff in the past but this latest one is just pure p2w glory.

Whoever has the most amount of expensive legendaries wins pretty much.


That's what I thought too at first, but I went in anyway, because I needed to get my one weekly free pack of cards Wink

And I have a single legendary card, and that is Sylvanas.

However, I have realized that it's not quite true, super-expensive cards lose to good distribution of efficient cards around 5 mana cost - because you can play 2 cards in one turn while he can play only a single super expensive, which can give you board control. I have won quite a few games with druid concentrating on 5 mana cost cards. Don't forget that the game is brutally fast starting with 10 mana - I had a game against warrior who did 10 damage in the first turn, I did not have a chance to play a single card, and was 10 life down. Though I suppose that legendary card that sets a player to 15 health no matter what is even stronger on turn 1...

Also, legendaries are mostly quirky cards, not super-effective in terms of mana cost/performance ration. That's why they are used sparingly in the good decks.

With the exception of Dr. Boom, of course - that card is so OP it's good in any deck.

Also, coin is worthless and who plays first has a huge advantage.
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bushwacka




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jul 2015 17:07    Post subject:
devastator wrote:
Not unless you are a priest Very Happy 2xMC tech 2xThought Steal 2xMind Games and 2xMC


PickupArtist wrote:
add 2* death and 2* big game hunter and u make all the pay2win kiddies cry


...and then add 2 faceless as well as 2x resurrect and whatever legendary/6-7+ mana minion you can find, maybe throw in a lightbomb for good measure. 100% winrate over 8 games so far Laughing Laughing
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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jul 2015 22:46    Post subject:
HAHAHA i mind control his first legendary, then second turn he play rag, i faceless, and death his, and he gave up roflol
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KamamuraCZ




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jul 2015 23:33    Post subject:
PickupArtist wrote:
HAHAHA i mind control his first legendary, then second turn he play rag, i faceless, and death his, and he gave up roflol


Just saw a game like this on TotalBiscuit video, weren't you playing him by chance?
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KamamuraCZ




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jul 2015 23:43    Post subject:
Hahaha, what on the earth can kill TWO Khel'Tuzads? SIX Khel'Tuzads!

This is insame.

BTW Mind Control sucks, because it's too slow, If your opponent is loaded with Legendaries, he will just play another one. Plus its battlecry effect.
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Stige




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Jul 2015 13:27    Post subject:
bushwacka wrote:
devastator wrote:
Not unless you are a priest Very Happy 2xMC tech 2xThought Steal 2xMind Games and 2xMC


PickupArtist wrote:
add 2* death and 2* big game hunter and u make all the pay2win kiddies cry


...and then add 2 faceless as well as 2x resurrect and whatever legendary/6-7+ mana minion you can find, maybe throw in a lightbomb for good measure. 100% winrate over 8 games so far Laughing Laughing


Resurrect needs p2w pve, no? Sad
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bushwacka




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Jul 2015 14:03    Post subject:
Stige wrote:
bushwacka wrote:
devastator wrote:
Not unless you are a priest Very Happy 2xMC tech 2xThought Steal 2xMind Games and 2xMC


PickupArtist wrote:
add 2* death and 2* big game hunter and u make all the pay2win kiddies cry


...and then add 2 faceless as well as 2x resurrect and whatever legendary/6-7+ mana minion you can find, maybe throw in a lightbomb for good measure. 100% winrate over 8 games so far Laughing Laughing


Resurrect needs p2w pve, no? Sad

might as well call buying packs with gold p2w. i haven't spent a dime on the game yet and still got all the necessary cards for competitive play
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Auran13




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Jul 2015 15:29    Post subject:
KamamuraCZ wrote:
Hahaha, what on the earth can kill TWO Khel'Tuzads? SIX Khel'Tuzads!

This is insame.

BTW Mind Control sucks, because it's too slow, If your opponent is loaded with Legendaries, he will just play another one. Plus its battlecry effect.


If you go first mind control is instant win, you play a card, he plays a card, you steal his now you're two up to his 0, no coming back from that.

Coin can be good too, i played a 9 cost card and coined out an annoy-o-bot, again instant win.

Thats the problem with this brawl, if you get a bad turn 1 or 2 its insta concede
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KamamuraCZ




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Jul 2015 18:23    Post subject:
Auran13 wrote:
KamamuraCZ wrote:
Hahaha, what on the earth can kill TWO Khel'Tuzads? SIX Khel'Tuzads!

This is insame.

BTW Mind Control sucks, because it's too slow, If your opponent is loaded with Legendaries, he will just play another one. Plus its battlecry effect.


If you go first mind control is instant win, you play a card, he plays a card, you steal his now you're two up to his 0, no coming back from that.

Coin can be good too, i played a 9 cost card and coined out an annoy-o-bot, again instant win.

Thats the problem with this brawl, if you get a bad turn 1 or 2 its insta concede


Except that you played twice ("a card" and mind control), while your opponent played only once ("a card"). There are multiple ways out of this, for example plaing Sylvanas, now you have two cards and he has Sylvanas, but when you kill his sylvanas, he will steal one of your card, without wasting a full turn.

So Sylvanas is a 5/6 body for 6 with the mind control effect (but you cannot choose what is controlled), while mind control is just the effect (albeit you get to choose) for 10.

Therefore, in a board full of legendaries Sylvana > Mind Control.
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sausje
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Jul 2015 20:27    Post subject:
FYI syl is 5/5, not 5/6 Wink


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Auran13




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Jul 2015 21:28    Post subject:
KamamuraCZ wrote:
Auran13 wrote:
KamamuraCZ wrote:
Hahaha, what on the earth can kill TWO Khel'Tuzads? SIX Khel'Tuzads!

This is insame.

BTW Mind Control sucks, because it's too slow, If your opponent is loaded with Legendaries, he will just play another one. Plus its battlecry effect.


If you go first mind control is instant win, you play a card, he plays a card, you steal his now you're two up to his 0, no coming back from that.

Coin can be good too, i played a 9 cost card and coined out an annoy-o-bot, again instant win.

Thats the problem with this brawl, if you get a bad turn 1 or 2 its insta concede


Except that you played twice ("a card" and mind control), while your opponent played only once ("a card"). There are multiple ways out of this, for example plaing Sylvanas, now you have two cards and he has Sylvanas, but when you kill his sylvanas, he will steal one of your card, without wasting a full turn.

So Sylvanas is a 5/6 body for 6 with the mind control effect (but you cannot choose what is controlled), while mind control is just the effect (albeit you get to choose) for 10.

Therefore, in a board full of legendaries Sylvana > Mind Control.


I know there are possible ways out its just unlikely and given that its unlikely most people concede.

Sylvana wouldnt work, i'd just go face and even then that assumes you dont have a silence or something which i do in my priest deck.
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Stige




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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Jul 2015 15:32    Post subject:
http://www.heartharena.com/ such a good side if you ask me.

Really helped for me atleast, first time I got 8 wins http://www.heartharena.com/arena-run/np8hmp (not sure if these links work for outsiders).

EDIT: I'm starting to think I can't build a deck from random cards but I can play just fine.
5-1 atm on my second arena with the help of heartharena, could be luck I guess but I rarely even broke 2 wins in the past so..

EDIT2: 8-3, 7-3, 5-3, 8-3

This site rocks.


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Phil2003




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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Jul 2015 19:34    Post subject:
I dont like this tavern brawl, skipping it.
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Stige




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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Jul 2015 11:32    Post subject:
Having Warlock, Shaman and Warrior to choose from...

Worst of the worst, utter crap.
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KamamuraCZ




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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Jul 2015 00:26    Post subject:
Kripparrian's take on this week's brawl

Guess what... he did not stuff his deck with legendaries:

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