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z0ne
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Standart IdTech 5 is soo plain. The custom one used in The Evil Within is something different - cool dynamic shadows, good textures overall... damn
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demde
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd May 2015 17:30 Post subject: |
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27GB out of 34 is Megatextures
1 GB Videos + Eng language
rest is resources and some addition to textures
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd May 2015 17:42 Post subject: |
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Someone has yet to explain to me how "megatextures" can be 10 times larger than "regular" ones used in other games and still look way worse...
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z0ne
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd May 2015 17:46 Post subject: |
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It's easy. The whole game is like using one BIG texture placed on the whole terrain, so you can't see repetitive details and etcs. Everything on it it's unique. 
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd May 2015 18:36 Post subject: |
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And even if it is technically one single texture, what is preventing the texture artist to use the same tiles again? I don't see the benefit...
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd May 2015 18:50 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd May 2015 18:50 Post subject: |
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| bringiton wrote: | | And even if it is technically one single texture, what is preventing the texture artist to use the same tiles again? I don't see the benefit... |
Im pretty sure they did. I remember some posts on neogaf iirc where people were pointing out copying and pasting.
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd May 2015 19:08 Post subject: |
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| bringiton wrote: | | And even if it is technically one single texture, what is preventing the texture artist to use the same tiles again? I don't see the benefit... |
I see no benefit in it either.
But i see so many disadvantages with that Shittexture®
Like low res textures compared to many other games, textures not loading or bad performance
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd May 2015 19:14 Post subject: |
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Rage looked truly amazing thanks to megatextures...a t least outside areas. interiors.. well...
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd May 2015 20:08 Post subject: |
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| Firepants836 wrote: | | bringiton wrote: | | And even if it is technically one single texture, what is preventing the texture artist to use the same tiles again? I don't see the benefit... |
Im pretty sure they did. I remember some posts on neogaf iirc where people were pointing out copying and pasting. |
Of course they did. Another big advantage Carmack was talking about was that artists could easily stamp the same texture over the terrain = speed. It's not necessarily the uniqueness.
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd May 2015 21:33 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd May 2015 21:46 Post subject: |
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Megatextures is shitty because it doesn't take advantage of the fact that artists still create textures separately for each object and then re-use them all over. Then they might paint over them with "decals" to make them unique.
In most games these "decals" are just separate objects that are rendered on top of the other objects to make the textures look unique.
I don't understand why they decided to bake those decals into a single huge texture before shipping the game, essentially creating this massive texture from a bunch of small textures that repeat and overlap everywhere. And I'm pretty sure the only reason why Rage textures were so low quality is that they couldn't fit it on disk - not performance reasons. But what they could do easily is to ship with textures and decals separately, like any other game out there, and then just bake them into a mega-texture at runtime.
It's a win-win. FC4 does this for its terrain, it's essentially a dynamic megatexture. And another advantage is that you can modify it dynamically (e.g. skidmarks, explosions) for which I'm assuming Rage is still using the traditional approach (which mega-textures were intended to replace in the first place).
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tonizito
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd May 2015 22:35 Post subject: |
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Keep your idcrap5 guys 
Although... now that I swinged back to an nDerpia card it will probably run better 
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd May 2015 22:39 Post subject: |
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How dare someone wish to see people talk about other aspects of a game than just textures in a Wolfenstein: The Old Blood game thread and not idtech engine thread.
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| Posted: Mon, 4th May 2015 16:03 Post subject: |
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any early unlock? for germany it says 4th may but 14 hrs remaining with isnt the 4th of may in germany
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demde
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| Posted: Mon, 4th May 2015 17:14 Post subject: |
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It was posted officially. WW release 12 AM ET which is 5 AM GMT.
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tere911
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| Posted: Mon, 4th May 2015 19:02 Post subject: |
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Looks promising. But still... Return to Castle Wolfenstein is still one of my fav.
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| Posted: Mon, 4th May 2015 19:03 Post subject: |
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"This video is not available"
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| Posted: Mon, 4th May 2015 19:14 Post subject: |
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I don't know about this...
New main weapon is lead pipe ?
zombies ?
and dual automatic shotguns as new weapon ? wait what ? that was in TNO.
meh
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| Posted: Mon, 4th May 2015 23:07 Post subject: |
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Remember the "Nightmare" Wolf3D level in The New Order? Well there's NINE of them in The Old Blood, one for each chapter;
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/05/04/wolfenstein-3d-will-be-playable-in-wolfenstein-the-old-blood
| Quote: | | Re-created in The Old Blood by a designer using the original Wolf3d data and tilemap, Gustafsson explains that the entire "first episode" of Wolfenstein 3D will be available to play throughout The Old Blood, including the boss fight with Hans Grosse and the secret tenth floor. |
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We should have a mix of MT for distance terrain and standard texturing for everything else, I think that would satisfy everyone.
