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Interinactive
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jan 2015 11:59    Post subject: CPU upgrade advice
Hello

I've currently got a P8 Z68V GEN3 and the CPU attached to it is a 2600k

I can either get a 5820K, or if it's worth it, a 5930K

Since I am running two GPUs in SLI, and since I will probably go all out on the RAM, what sort of motherboard should I be looking to purchase? This is the store I buy from and in turn the list I have to choose from. Ignore the prices, they generally are high everywhere anyway.

I guess I'd need a new CPU cooler too. I'm currently using a H80. Considering how well it's served me, I was thinking of getting a H100i unless there's a reason I shouldn't

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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jan 2015 12:02    Post subject:
Why not a 5960x? I heard that's recommended for GTAV Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jan 2015 12:13    Post subject:
Unless you're planning on going for tri-sli and an m2 drive and not overclocking, then theres not much point to the 5930k. You get more bang for your buck with the 5820k, theoretically it's also a better overclocker due to the reduced cache.
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jan 2015 12:33    Post subject:
This just reminds me I have to upgrade my CPU Darn, bottleneck xD
I love what I put together back then, but that big mistake of going non k...

I'd say 5820k, for the reasons Epsi brings.
Motherboard... no clue. Haven't read up on those for a while now.


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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jan 2015 12:40    Post subject:
Yup, I want to upgrade my 2500k at some point but yay... that means whole new mobo too >_> Honestly Inter, I'd recommend going with the 5820k as well. OCs nicely and far better value for the money. The 5930k shines with 3/4-way SLi but you're only running standard 2-way, so yeah.. money/value.
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jan 2015 12:49    Post subject:
If you are going for 5820K and gaming, then you just better off with Z97 setup (4790k). Go check some benchmarks and decide yourself. But if you must go for X99 setup, get 5930K and OC it, also get insanely expensive fast DDR4 and you are set. Also get something better than H100i, Swiftech H220X is miles better and uses premium components, costs nearly the same aswell.
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jan 2015 13:32    Post subject:
Rawr... but it better be with that price


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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jan 2015 14:33    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
Aint no way around the AU tax

I can order it from the US but the postage is always mental
Wat
Aren't you going overseas in a few months?


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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jan 2015 15:31    Post subject:
Same case as Sabin says... 2500K but dunno what to buy..however, SKYLAKE (Intel) coming out this year i'd wait a bit.. If Skylake doesn't do much better than what's actual (4790K n similar with DDR4 etc),wait for price drops and go bite the bullet...or something...


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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jan 2015 15:56    Post subject:
It's doubtful that Skylake will do that much better, and the first released CPUs will be the non-K variants from what I understand. Wouldn't wait for price drops either, since that never really happened - 2500K and 3570K had pretty much the same price until the end times!

Either way, since he is going for Haswell-E, Skylake is not really in competition.
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jan 2015 16:00    Post subject:
Yeah, price drops on Intel procs pretty much don't happen. Maybe 10% wiggle-room but a worthwhile drop down to snag-it levels? Nope Sad That's why when I look for a Haswell upgrade to my 2500k (since Ivy Bridge wouldn't even be a 2-5% upgrade on 99% of all tests outside of CryEngine) I'll be looking through the preowned market.
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jan 2015 16:07    Post subject:
Eh tell me about it, after that MH:O benchmark I went to look for cheap 2500k's and 2600k's (Don't have the money to do a proper upgrade) but even on them when you find them its 200€+
And they perform so well that there is no second hand market for them around here. Razz


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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jan 2015 16:36    Post subject:
DV2 wrote:
Same case as Sabin says... 2500K but dunno what to buy..however, SKYLAKE (Intel) coming out this year i'd wait a bit.. If Skylake doesn't do much better than what's actual (4790K n similar with DDR4 etc),wait for price drops and go bite the bullet...or something...
Are you going to buy another K CPU and leave it at stock speeds too? Laughing


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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jan 2015 16:55    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
DV2 wrote:
Same case as Sabin says... 2500K but dunno what to buy..however, SKYLAKE (Intel) coming out this year i'd wait a bit.. If Skylake doesn't do much better than what's actual (4790K n similar with DDR4 etc),wait for price drops and go bite the bullet...or something...
Are you going to buy another K CPU and leave it at stock speeds too? Laughing


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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jan 2015 19:31    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
tonizito wrote:
DV2 wrote:
Same case as Sabin says... 2500K but dunno what to buy..however, SKYLAKE (Intel) coming out this year i'd wait a bit.. If Skylake doesn't do much better than what's actual (4790K n similar with DDR4 etc),wait for price drops and go bite the bullet...or something...
Are you going to buy another K CPU and leave it at stock speeds too? Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Jan 2015 00:22    Post subject:
I'd say its all a waste of money and people are going Xeon because regular i7 didnt evolve fast enough. In principle though the amount of money compared to the measly advantage you get for that X99 setup might aswell be invested in something else. Intel is to blame when people need to resort to Xeon to finally get that upgrade they were used to get in normal intervals in the past without having to go Xeon. (AMD is also to blame for not getting their shit together)


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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Jan 2015 00:32    Post subject:
couleur wrote:
I'd say its all a waste of money and people are going Xeon because regular i7 didnt evolve fast enough. In principle though the amount of money compared to the measly advantage you get for that X99 setup might aswell be invested in something else. Intel is to blame when people need to resort to Xeon to finally get that upgrade they were used to get in normal intervals in the past without having to go Xeon. (AMD is also to blame for not getting their shit together)
Well here's hoping taht AMD catches up now that Intel might be more inclined to have rainbow-like teams versus having the best person for the job (oh noes he's an asian/white male, teh horror!1)


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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Jan 2015 04:09    Post subject:
idd toni tho i doubt amd will get their shit together soon for gaming they need to get rid off the more cpu's is better ideology first it's sad the amd x2 started the whole problem my p4 outclasses it completely even tho the x2 is newer and running at a faster clock


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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Jan 2015 12:43    Post subject:
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Sooo, 2500k is not hip anymore? Sad

Apparently my 3570K is a Pentium 4 these days, yours must be a Celeron Sad And here I thought I was on the cutting edge with my 3570K and HD7970 Sad
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Jan 2015 13:19    Post subject:
There's barely any difference where gaming is concerned between Sandy Bridge and up.




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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Jan 2015 14:46    Post subject:
Something like Z97 setup vs Haswell-E wont have much difference in gaming in Single/SLI setups (4790K seems to be best choice at the moment price wise and performance wise), but SB -> Haswell-E will be nice upgrade.
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Jan 2015 16:10    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
People said there would be barely any difference when I went from 780s > 980s as well, yet there was enough of a difference for me to notice at this resolution

Also, I asked around on a local board and the consensus is that nobody really knows when Skylake will come, and some were even suggesting the desktop versions may arrive in 2016 Mad


Well, I meant non-E versions, it's obvious there's an improvement where E CPU's are concerned.




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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Jan 2015 16:52    Post subject:
ClaudeFTW wrote:
Interinactive wrote:
People said there would be barely any difference when I went from 780s > 980s as well, yet there was enough of a difference for me to notice at this resolution

Also, I asked around on a local board and the consensus is that nobody really knows when Skylake will come, and some were even suggesting the desktop versions may arrive in 2016 Mad


Well, I meant non-E versions, it's obvious there's an improvement where E CPU's are concerned.

Upgraded 2500K to 4790K - there was a definite improvement where I needed it. It's not a necessary upgrade yet, but if you have a high-end GPU it's worth considering since more and more games start to push on the limits of Sandy Bridge.

As for timing, if you are considering a CPU upgrade might as well go for it now, since it's very unlikely anything is going to dramatically change in that space at least for about a year.
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Jan 2015 17:21    Post subject:
my friend has i7 860@3.5ghz with 980 he can easily play DAI maxed out 60 fps
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