Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes
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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Dec 2014 22:36    Post subject:
Yep, as it was said, LOD differences are pretty big. Same with SSAO. The other dof and lighting stuff not so much.
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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Dec 2014 22:46    Post subject:
I want the fucking pc version now!
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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Dec 2014 12:47    Post subject:
Oh very nice oh very nice when the game is out we get the specs? THANK GOD THANK YOU ALL
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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Dec 2014 12:54    Post subject:
The specs are preorder only. Cool Face

Seriously I am almost (~90%) convinced the game at PS4 level of quality will be really really really easy to run. At higher than PS4 quality settings and especially with the higher LOD, who knows.


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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Dec 2014 13:47    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Dec 2014 13:55    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
Hggnngnngnnhnn this is killing me


You could always buy it for your PS4 in the meantime Troll Dad
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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Dec 2014 13:57    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
Hggnngnngnnhnn this is killing me

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cyclonefr




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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Dec 2014 14:24    Post subject:
Expecting to be bashed, insulted and what not but these latest MP4 files from Konami that shows the difference between PS4 and PC is really minor specially for the gameplay experience.

After all, PS4 can barely have AC Unity run in 900p @ 20 fps, YET it can display such details in MGS 5 in 1080p @ 60fps fine.

So yeah as sabin said, interinactive could just play it on PS4 (I think he even already owns the game).

Do yourself a favor though, if you do plan to play it on PC, use a gamepad, and don't play this game with keyboard + mouse.

Good job Konami !


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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Dec 2014 14:27    Post subject:
Getting excited for a 2h demo Reaction


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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Dec 2014 14:31    Post subject:
cyclonefr wrote:
that shows the difference between PS4 and PC is really minor specially for the gameplay experience.


This isn't 1989 or even 1995, pretty much every single game experience will be *identical* now, regardless of platform. Even on some mobile devices and their respective versions of "big brother" games. I don't know why you were expecting "gameplay experience" to be different in any way between Xbox 360 or Xbox One, or PS3 or PS4.. and yes, even PS4 and PC. The only differences between respective versions now will be framerate and visual detail and that's if the developers take the time to tailor to each specific platform, rather than going for parity. Very few do that. Most prefer the easy route of "make one SKU, port it to the rest of the platforms verbatim"

So yes, regardless of what console or PC you play on; the *gameplay* experience will be the same. I genuinely don't know why that's even a thing to discuss. We're no longer in the days of XX version being superior and YY version being enormously cut down and streamlined due to ZZ reason.

I have noticed one thing, not necessarily from you but from a great many console fanboys; whenever the PC has the lead in visual quality, the fanboys shout "gameplay matters! not graphics! the gameplay will be the same!!" and whenever a console exclusive has great visuals, the taunts are the same "lololol PC Master Race cannot into THESE kinds of graphics! $400 PS4 vs $4000 PC, trololol Cool Face Cool Face Cool Face"


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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Dec 2014 14:39    Post subject:
Dont forget AA and higher res. Well we all play in 1080p but the AA is everything these days! Everything!

So dont play it on PS4 except you are a console dickfanboy. Pc will always be the best by far. Either raw graphics, or fps, or AA.....console is never a comparison never!
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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Dec 2014 14:40    Post subject:
Supermax2004 wrote:
So dont play it on PS4 except you are a console dickfanboy.


DO play it on a PS4 if you don't have a rig capable of highest settings or vast quantities of AA Wink As cyclone rightly said, even the PS4 is running it at 1080p60 .. so if you don't have a 780+ but you do have a PS4, simply play it on there.
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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Dec 2014 14:41    Post subject:
If you need 60fps+ maybe....but better graphics with AA are always before consoleshit. My opinion.
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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Dec 2014 14:43    Post subject:
I prefer 60fps over visuals, so - in this day and age with shitass console ports - I often turn shit down just so I can play it properly.
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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Dec 2014 14:44    Post subject:
And in a few years you need 120fps and then even more which prevents you from seeing better visuals forever. But if gameplay is more important then everything is fine of course Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Dec 2014 14:47    Post subject:
I disagree, I've been perfectly happy with 60fps for over 15 years Wink And yes, gameplay *experience* is more important and a huge part of the experience is smooth movement, not janky and juddery motion at 20-30fps. I can sometimes stomach it when I'm away from home and playing on my 360 or PS3, but I *greatly* prefer 60 \o/
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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Dec 2014 14:50    Post subject:
But what if the bitchconcoles only have 30fps? What then? And the new displays with 120-144hz will make you feel smooth in the pants if you see it I am sure. You will forget the 60fps and go to the holy 120 mark which will fuck you through. Modern games with 120fps...impossible.

And Assassins Creed is another example once again. Gameplay before graphics....but what if the gameplay never changes and is some boring shit like in that game? Only the better visuals can save you then. Otherwise you gotta puke nonstop!
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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Dec 2014 15:01    Post subject:
Neh, I can barely sustain 60 in modern titles as it is. I genuinely have *zero* interest in 120hz/144hz displays Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Dec 2014 15:05    Post subject:
Supermax2004 wrote:
Well we all play in 1080p...


Speak for yourself.
I don't game below 1440p these days. IMO, 1080p is the new console peasant resolution.
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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Dec 2014 15:27    Post subject:
I only have a 1366/768 monitor atm Sad
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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Dec 2014 15:27    Post subject:
If I buy a new display it has to be able to do 4k. And good 4k displays are too expensive these days. Isnt playable anyways. 1440p doesnt interest me.

Maybe in 1 or 2 years you can buy a 4k display which can easily handle 1080p and 1440p and 2160p then I am in!


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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Dec 2014 15:27    Post subject:
@sabin : but gameplay experience is affected between PS360 and XBONE/PS4 versions : the framerate.

Playing this game at 60fps vs 30fps helps a lot, this is one of these games where the framerate matters a lot. Having played both the PS3 and PS4 versions, I can tell you Snake feels a lot lighter due to better control response thanks to 60fps Smile

Now, > 60 fps ? I never noticed the difference between 60fps and 120 fps here, except I need to turn on Vsync else I get terrible tearing !


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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Dec 2014 15:40    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
I have noticed one thing, not necessarily from you but from a great many console fanboys;


Laughing

Typical console poster on neogaf discussing the 1080p@60 maxed out PC version of a game vs the Console 720p@30 version of a game:

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Yeah, the PC version looks a little better I guess, maybe, I can barely tell.

Look, to be honest I have a beefy PC but:

- Sitting far away on my couch I can not notice the lower res.
- I can't tell 30 fps apart from 60, so it doesn't matter to me.
- The rest of the effects do not make a huge difference.

Look, I asked my mother yesterday if she could tell the difference and she said no, so there you go, it's a tiny difference that you have to pay a lot of $$$ for. It's not really worth it. Trust me, I used to play on PC all the time, but I came to the conclusion it's a waste. It's all about the gameplay afterall, no?


Same typical console poster on neogaf discussing 360 vs PS3 version of the game:

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OMG, teh PS3 just got pwn3d!!11 The 360 version runs at exactly 2% higher resolution and 1 fps higher half the time! Is this the end of Sony? This is a ***HUGE*** difference! Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhnnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggg Microsoft Frap Frap Guy


Replace Microsoft with Sony for the Sony fanboys.


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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Dec 2014 15:49    Post subject:
Price: $19,99 Reaction (so probably 20 EUR as well)



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Info on bonuses:

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When you play METAL GEAR SOLID V: GROUND ZEROES PC version (MGSV:GZ), there is a variety of benefits when you take over the data to METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE PHAMTOM PAIN PC version (MGSV:TPP).

Mother Base Staff
If you would rescue prisoners or unique characters, you can use them as Mother Base staff.

Costume
The costume Snake wears in MGSV:GZ will be available in MGSV:TPP.
*The game of MGSV:GZ and its save data are necessary when you will receive the benefits of data take over.
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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Dec 2014 16:11    Post subject:
Much benefits, such costume, wow.
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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Dec 2014 16:41    Post subject:
Tomorrow is Metal Gear Solid time for pc after many many years. I am a bit excited. Just a bit Smile

Are there videos/cutscenes in this "demo" shit?
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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Dec 2014 16:52    Post subject:
Why there is no detail on Price and purchase button on steam yet? The game will be out tomorrow as far as I know
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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Dec 2014 16:56    Post subject:
20 dollars for a demo wow. Are they gonna give some discount to phantom rain for the people who own ground zeroes?
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