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| Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2014 21:16 Post subject: |
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I see you guys are all fucking then :P
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prudislav
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2014 21:49 Post subject: |
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| frogster wrote: | http://tommyrefenes.tumblr.com/post/45684087997/apathy-and-refunds-are-more-dangerous-than-piracy
always a good read. |
Great read.
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LMLM
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2014 22:00 Post subject: |
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Is Denuvo intrusive on the computer? So far all I can see is that it lowers performance and can make a game buggy. Is it also a rootkit? If it makes the game slower and more buggy that's one thing but if it fucks with the boot process and Windows itself that's a whole nother thing.
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matta666
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2014 22:14 Post subject: |
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Makers of Denuvo will always be one step ahead. (improving protection in every update/release).
In the future, this will be the ultimate challenge for the scene.
chill out man, life is beautifull...
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2014 22:15 Post subject: |
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| LMLM wrote: | | Is Denuvo intrusive on the computer? So far all I can see is that it lowers performance and can make a game buggy. Is it also a rootkit? If it makes the game slower and more buggy that's one thing but if it fucks with the boot process and Windows itself that's a whole nother thing. |
the team that developed denuvo is responsible for securom and various sony rootkits labeled as drm. personally i would not support them, not matter how different and safe denuvo is.
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2014 22:26 Post subject: |
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So will denuvo spread like wildfire to other upcoming titles, is that reasonable to assume?
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2014 22:30 Post subject: |
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| frogster wrote: | http://tommyrefenes.tumblr.com/post/45684087997/apathy-and-refunds-are-more-dangerous-than-piracy
always a good read. |
whoever wrote that has more sense than all of this idiotic publishers combined
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2014 22:35 Post subject: |
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| frogster wrote: | | LMLM wrote: | | Is Denuvo intrusive on the computer? So far all I can see is that it lowers performance and can make a game buggy. Is it also a rootkit? If it makes the game slower and more buggy that's one thing but if it fucks with the boot process and Windows itself that's a whole nother thing. |
the team that developed denuvo is responsible for securom and various sony rootkits labeled as drm. personally i would not support them, not matter how different and safe denuvo is. |
+1
but this "Denuvo is uncrackable" paronoia is funny to watch, i guess impatient ppl were too spoiled by lstcouple of yeasrs with 0-day cracks
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2014 22:36 Post subject: |
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| EternalBlueScreen wrote: | | So will denuvo spread like wildfire to other upcoming titles, is that reasonable to assume? |
Same as Securom and StarForce before it. Will fail. Or we are all fucking.  |
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2014 22:37 Post subject: |
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StarForce, Tages, SecuROM7 and higher, uplay...I'd say i'm a patient dude. Plus, i have VC to keep me company.
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2014 22:39 Post subject: |
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So, I guess that most publishers will start using this Denuvo bullshit on their games and we are all fucking then. How does Denuvo work exactly? It randomizes a serial code each time .exe is started and checks it online by some database or something?
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2014 22:40 Post subject: |
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I don't think there's been that many saying its not crackable, only that'll be a tough nut to crack, as in months to a year.
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2014 22:55 Post subject: |
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It's something new, so it should take some time, but I think it's safe to say in the end of the day it would be uncrackable only in the eyes of it's creators. Like everything else until this point.
btw: R* should use denuvo on GTA V and become the ultimate trolls.
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2014 22:57 Post subject: |
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BTW, I'm not really against DRM that does not hurt or interfere the paying customer experience (oxymoron?). But if this hurts performance...
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LMLM
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2014 23:00 Post subject: |
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| frogster wrote: | | LMLM wrote: | | Is Denuvo intrusive on the computer? So far all I can see is that it lowers performance and can make a game buggy. Is it also a rootkit? If it makes the game slower and more buggy that's one thing but if it fucks with the boot process and Windows itself that's a whole nother thing. |
the team that developed denuvo is responsible for securom and various sony rootkits labeled as drm. personally i would not support them, not matter how different and safe denuvo is. |
Okay well that's not much specific information. Sure they're slimy and the whole point of DRM is highly questionable of course. I just don't know what Denuvo does besides some sort of encryption while running but it doesn't seem to alter the boot process as does the old rootkit drm crap. I will cancel my preorder if I find it's doing more than I am comfortable with.
edit: I already have a separate windows install for Origin so it's already sandboxed..
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2014 23:00 Post subject: |
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those days when steam was supposedly uncrackable 
so many memories 
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2014 23:45 Post subject: |
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I don't know which is worse: supporting biowarEA by buying this garbage or supporting the new supa-terrible DRM by buying this garbage
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2014 23:54 Post subject: |
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From a gamer's standpoint what's worse is not having shit to play because we're busy skipping games for a growing list of various reasons.
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2014 23:55 Post subject: |
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| tonizito wrote: | | I don't know which is worse: supporting biowarEA by buying this garbage or supporting the new supa-terrible DRM by buying this garbage |
Supporting the DRM. Individual garbages come and go, but the DRM is a sticky garbage, with much higher potential to stink if it sticks. |
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2014 23:56 Post subject: |
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| EternalBlueScreen wrote: | | From a gamer's standpoint what's worse is not having shit to play because we're busy skipping games for a growing list of various reasons. |
You know what's worse? Lowering your standards as a gamer to find more games to play. |
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Thanks for the info.
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