Extremely slow WinRar extracting speed?
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Neon
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Nov 2014 00:40    Post subject: Extremely slow WinRar extracting speed?
I mean...



Granted it's a 45 GB file, but it shouldn't be THAT slow, right?
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Nov 2014 00:41    Post subject:
You sure that's a winrar issue? Does 7zip extract the same file faster?


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Nov 2014 00:42    Post subject:
I actually haven't checked, and I'm not going to cancel the winrar extracting process now Laughing I was just wondering if it's the same thing for you guys.

It's worth noting that not even a quarter of my CPU or RAM is being used, and that's with browsing the hump and watching a twitch stream:

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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Nov 2014 00:47    Post subject:
We're not using winrar, we're using 7zip.

Anyway make sure it's not extracting to a temporary folder in c: but directly to the destination. Don't use drag'n'drop.

EDIT: If it's extracting in the same hdd, then no wonder it's slow.
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Nov 2014 00:49    Post subject:
45 GB


45 GB


check your cpu usage to see if winrar uses all threads. edit: ninja'd edit2: 45 GB


45 GB


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Nov 2014 00:52    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
EDIT: If it's extracting in the same hdd, then no wonder it's slow.
Well I think neona is smarter than that

I usually extract those big ass files from my HDD to my SSD, then move back the iso to the HDD and install it to the SSD.


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Nov 2014 00:52    Post subject:
Yeah, I'm doing HDD -> SSD too.
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Nov 2014 01:05    Post subject:
No clue, haven't used winrar for quite some time now. Last times I was using it it was considerably slower than 7z so I dropped it.


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Nov 2014 01:07    Post subject:
Welp, I should probably install 7z then Laughing Sad
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Nov 2014 01:09    Post subject:
Neon wrote:
Welp, I should probably install 7z then Laughing Sad
Why is it NOT installed is a better question?
Not sanctioned by ubilol? Rolling Eyes


I always have both installed, winrar is better for some stuff, 7zip for other Very Happy


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Nov 2014 01:11    Post subject:
I guess I got so used to it that I sort of never considered an alternative.

Like, I had an iPod Touch back in 2008 or so, so I started using iTunes for music out of necessity.

I don't use any Apple device for ~4 years now or so, but I still use iTunes for listening to music, even though I know it's an inferior app in so many aspects Laughing But it kind of works for me, podcasts download automatically and everything is "just there" Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Nov 2014 04:39    Post subject:
ssd may be fast, but how fast is your hdd?
or people assume if their cpu/ssd super fast hdd will follow? Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Nov 2014 04:55    Post subject:
took 20 min in 7 zip on a normal 100mb/s HDD ... winrar is slow as fuck ... if you ask me

i only use it to compress sound and to decompress RAR5 ... theirs algorithm for sound compression is pure sex


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Nov 2014 05:29    Post subject:
Here about 20 min too on regular spinnpoint HDD.. using winrar..
It showed 35 min at start too, but went faster eventually.


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Nov 2014 05:57    Post subject:
winrar has allways been slower on extracting compared to 7zip and it's free to boot grinhurt


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Nov 2014 06:29    Post subject:
What the heck is 7zip?

I still use Winrar. Nobody ever mentioned this 7zip before Confused



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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Nov 2014 06:35    Post subject:
timechange01 wrote:
What the heck is 7zip?

I still use Winrar. Nobody ever mentioned this 7zip before Confused
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Nov 2014 07:41    Post subject:
Depends. If the file was compressed using the 'RAR5' method, and 'best' compression, then yes, it will take longer to extract. All normal Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Nov 2014 08:24    Post subject:
i still not understand why torrent/trackers are forcing people to upload in pieces, instead an extracted iso.
it just double the space you need, use cpu, for no sane reason.
yeah, on usenet is a great system because file coruption and recover parts, but torents ?

7zip vs winrar.
from my pov, fuck 7zip.
how fucking hard it is to put an option : put files in separate archive. are they really expect to manually select and archive 1000+ books dir's ? (at least in the last version i use, it had no such thing).
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Nov 2014 09:59    Post subject:
I have both 7z and WinRAR installed, 7z for those pesky 7z files but my mainstay is RAR and it always has been.
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Nov 2014 10:45    Post subject:
lolz i also have winrar and 7zip installed. only use 7zip to unpack 7zip files from some p2p morons.

7zip compression might be better but but also takes longer and program UI is horrendous.

so yeah, winrar 4 life Very Happy

and to people claiming 7zip is faster to unrar - are you sure? did you time it? because sounds like placebo effect to me
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Nov 2014 11:58    Post subject:
and to people claiming winrar is faster to unrar - are you sure? did you time it? because sounds like placebo effect to me

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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Nov 2014 12:40    Post subject:
Shoshomiga wrote:
Stop using this proprietary deprecated software called winrar

no
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Nov 2014 12:44    Post subject:
They're both so close it's not really worth comparing, 7z managed to decompress CoDAW (43.8GB using "store" and no compression) in 10:30 and WinRAR 5 did it in 10:58. A 28s drop is hardly worth worrying about. I stick with WinRAR because it compresses faster (because RAR5 actually compresses slightly worse, heh) and it's got a more familiar and usable UI. That's it really. I have to keep 7z installed for 7z files that WinRAR can't handle, but if it wasn't for that I'd only have RAR installed.



I do like 7z's detailed display though, something RARlabs could learn from.

Shoshomiga wrote:
Stop using this proprietary deprecated software called winrar


No.
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Nov 2014 12:47    Post subject:
7z doesn't support RAR. How, pray tell, do you propose I decompress (one of) the most prevalently used archive formats on the internet, using software that doesn't support it? Yeah, that's what I thought. No, I'll stick with WinRAR which - conversely - also supports the competitor's 7z format.


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Nov 2014 12:48    Post subject:
Shoshomiga wrote:
Have fun trying to extract your files in 20 years when the software does not work on any platform anymore and reverse engineering the compression algorithm is explicitly forbidden in the license


wth are you smoking ?
noone on unix is using 7zip. and noone will ever do. it have some filesystem limitation. and on ntfs to. but on ntfs you dont care to much about filesystem permissions.
and winrar offer the source code for unrar, and is allowing anyone to use it.


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Nov 2014 12:48    Post subject:
frogster wrote:
i still not understand why torrent/trackers are forcing people to upload in pieces, instead an extracted iso.


With one file ( iso ) and one seeder ( being the one who uploaded the iso ) you'll have to wait an enormous amount of time for it to get completed, even if its from the seedbox. When hundreds of leechers jump on 1 seeder, the seeders speed is divided to all the leechers.
Rard files are easier to get as the files are smaller, leechers get them faster and are distributed between them.
Leechers share the rarfiles(pieces) between them with upload/download.

As for 7zip have installed, but never used it Embarassed
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