YouTube will be doing 60 fps
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jun 2014 12:42    Post subject: YouTube will be doing 60 fps


https://twitter.com/YTCreators/status/482322459413053442

Thread on NeoGAF: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=845054

It's happening, folks!!! \o/

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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jun 2014 12:46    Post subject:
Well that's certainly very good news, will probably load videos even slower though Sad


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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jun 2014 12:50    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jun 2014 14:23    Post subject:
3 video's in 60FPS
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbsGxdAPhjv9UrLo19pS8teoRKj7funAy


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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jun 2014 14:28    Post subject:
That's about fricking time!


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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jun 2014 14:43    Post subject:
Aeon wrote:
3 video's in 60FPS
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbsGxdAPhjv9UrLo19pS8teoRKj7funAy

LOL Firefox (with latest Flash) cannot into 60 fps Laughing

It works fine in Chrome though. Especially 1080p. Shocked


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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jun 2014 14:46    Post subject:
Finally everybody will see how shitty my PC actually is. WHERE IS A PETITION AGAINST THIS? Mad


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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jun 2014 14:54    Post subject:
guys, everyone knows the human eye cannot see anything past 30fps anyway Cool Face


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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jun 2014 15:02    Post subject:
PumpAction wrote:
Finally everybody will see how shitty my PC actually is. WHERE IS A PETITION AGAINST THIS? Mad

You should buy a next-gen console for a fluid high-res experience instead of... oh, wait!

Very Happy Laughing

tw1st wrote:
guys, everyone knows the human eye cannot see anything past 30fps anyway Cool Face

I wonder how the retards spewing bullshit like that are actually feeling right now. What excuse will they now find to defend the sub-par 30fps cinematic experience™.

KillerCrocker where art thou? Where are your work colleagues?

pls participate Cool Face


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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jun 2014 15:30    Post subject:
i'd prefer they improve video quality at 30fps
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jun 2014 16:20    Post subject:
Raccoon wrote:
Aeon wrote:
3 video's in 60FPS
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbsGxdAPhjv9UrLo19pS8teoRKj7funAy

LOL Firefox (with latest Flash) cannot into 60 fps Laughing

It works fine in Chrome though. Especially 1080p. Shocked

Flash? Nigga, you just went full retard.
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jun 2014 16:23    Post subject:
But the human eye can only see 30 fps!
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jun 2014 19:27    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
Raccoon wrote:
Aeon wrote:
3 video's in 60FPS
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbsGxdAPhjv9UrLo19pS8teoRKj7funAy

LOL Firefox (with latest Flash) cannot into 60 fps Laughing

It works fine in Chrome though. Especially 1080p. Shocked

Flash? Nigga, you just went full retard.


At the moment FF has pretty limited HTML5 support as well (only supports resolutions up to 720p).
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jun 2014 19:49    Post subject:
MinderMast wrote:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
Raccoon wrote:

LOL Firefox (with latest Flash) cannot into 60 fps Laughing

It works fine in Chrome though. Especially 1080p. Shocked

Flash? Nigga, you just went full retard.


At the moment FF has pretty limited HTML5 support as well (only supports resolutions up to 720p).


That's partly due to Google and partly due to Firefox not supporting MSE. - http://www.ghacks.net/2013/10/27/youtube-videos-firefox-1080p/
(Media Source Extensions, you need those on Youtube for 1080P - and 480P - when using HTML5 video.)


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=778617

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/MediaSourceExtensions


Quite a ways away from completion though partial compatibility is already available in the nightly builds of Firefox.
(IE11 also supports MSE but only on Windows 8 and 8.1, not the slightly slimmed down version backported to Windows 7. - http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ie/dn254959%28v=vs.85%29.aspx )
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jun 2014 20:38    Post subject:
Firefox Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jun 2014 21:42    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
MinderMast wrote:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:

Flash? Nigga, you just went full retard.


At the moment FF has pretty limited HTML5 support as well (only supports resolutions up to 720p).


That's partly due to Google and partly due to Firefox not supporting MSE. - http://www.ghacks.net/2013/10/27/youtube-videos-firefox-1080p/
(Media Source Extensions, you need those on Youtube for 1080P - and 480P - when using HTML5 video.)


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=778617

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/MediaSourceExtensions


Quite a ways away from completion though partial compatibility is already available in the nightly builds of Firefox.
(IE11 also supports MSE but only on Windows 8 and 8.1, not the slightly slimmed down version backported to Windows 7. - http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ie/dn254959%28v=vs.85%29.aspx )

Yeah, I know. You don't really need the "nightly" build either - the 31.0 Beta already has the partial support in, but still lacks MSE with H.264, so it might as well not be there at all because the feature set remains the same as with the non-beta version as far as YouTube is concerned.
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jun 2014 23:00    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
Firefox Laughing


Mostly because of the extensions, I tried Chrome briefly but it was pretty restrictive in comparison so I didn't like it though I could probably get used to it with time, very fast though which I liked.
(Opera is also getting a lot of praise so that could be something to look into.)

For now though the only major remaining issue with Firefox that I'm experiencing is the somewhat high RAM consumption, most everything else appears to have been resolved.
(There's still those handful of changes and fixes with every version released and the bugtracker is probably full of issues people have sent in but it's working fine here.)
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Jun 2014 00:32    Post subject:
I thought there was something wrong when I watched these 60fps videos, everything looked the same to me...and wondered myself in disbelief, what if I've become like KC Philosopheraptor Crying or Very sad
But nope, thankfully it's just the Fox. Razz Laughing *sigh of relief*
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Jun 2014 00:37    Post subject:
@ixigia There should be '30fps motion-blur' add-on for our beloved browser. Laughing

(aka 'fake 60fps mode')


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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Jun 2014 03:32    Post subject:
Raccoon wrote:
@ixigia There should be '30fps motion-blur' add-on for our beloved browser. Laughing

(aka 'fake 60fps mode')


It would be... amazing! So Much Win
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Jun 2014 03:33    Post subject:
Ahahaha, that popup xD


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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Jun 2014 04:09    Post subject:
so an xboner game is one of the first youtube videos to "show off" 60 fps?

oh the fucking irony Laughing

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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Jun 2014 11:26    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
I thought there was something wrong when I watched these 60fps videos, everything looked the same to me...and wondered myself in disbelief, what if I've become like KC Philosopheraptor Crying or Very sad
But nope, thankfully it's just the Fox. Razz Laughing *sigh of relief*


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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Jun 2014 21:26    Post subject:
This thread motivated me to give Chrome another try (when I tried it shortly after release it was missing the ability to auto-open certain file-types without having to manually save first, .pls files for example) however I've hit a brick wall in trying to get my extensions set up.

Adblock - check, no problems there.
Noscript - ScriptSafe is the Noscript equivalent on Chrome, right?

However, try as I might I can't find a worthy equivalent to Fire Gestures. All of the options I found were either loaded with blatant Adware (Smooth Gestures), kinda broken (Gestures), or loaded with Tracking/Selling Browsing Info (CrxMouse).

Are there any that I'm missing that are actually decent?


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PostPosted: Sun, 29th Jun 2014 01:19    Post subject:
So just wondering why do my games not seem this smooth , even thou I get far more than 60fps

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PostPosted: Sun, 29th Jun 2014 08:03    Post subject:
Perhaps the games run at 30 FPS and are rendered in 60 during movie playback thus "smooth" (motion blur?) no idea really but that's a guess.

EDIT: Though maybe game framerate is irrelevant to movie playback framerate.
(Stuttering would likely be noticeable though.)
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PostPosted: Sun, 29th Jun 2014 09:32    Post subject:
It's always like that with videos. There is a certain amount of "blurring"/interleaving between frames which smooths out the transitions, and frametimes in general are consistent because they are recorded and not being rendered in real-time. In games frametimes are often highly irregular.
Those things combined in some cases can make a 60FPS video appear better than 120FPS in-game, or at least on the same level. This is going to skew the possible 30FPS vs 60FPS comparison videos, but it kinda evens out because 30FPS videos also look smoother.
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PostPosted: Sun, 29th Jun 2014 10:16    Post subject:
About time tbh.


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