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Werelds
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| Xenthalon wrote: | | No No No No NO! AARRRRRRR!!! |
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| garus wrote: | Did you buy the devkit recently?  |
Probably more like me, having been close to buying the damn thing a million times already |
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Keit
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Jan 2014 00:11 Post subject: |
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If they put up the new prototype for sale I'd buy it in an instant.
god damnit I need it
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Jan 2014 01:02 Post subject: |
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| Big_Gun wrote: | | dodger2020 wrote: | | Well,, hopefully that OLED screen is a lot better because that positional tracking isn't going to be any better than slapping a three point sensor on top ala trackIR or freetrack. |
Maybe true about the tracking, but at least now it is integrated.
Reports are that the OLED screen is a lot better. |
If by integrated you mean, they stuck reflective dots all over it, then yes, it's integrated. It still relies on an external camera for the tracking, ala trackir or freetrack.
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Big_Gun
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Jan 2014 01:14 Post subject: |
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| dodger2020 wrote: | | Big_Gun wrote: | | dodger2020 wrote: | | Well,, hopefully that OLED screen is a lot better because that positional tracking isn't going to be any better than slapping a three point sensor on top ala trackIR or freetrack. |
Maybe true about the tracking, but at least now it is integrated.
Reports are that the OLED screen is a lot better. |
If by integrated you mean, they stuck reflective dots all over it, then yes, it's integrated. It still relies on an external camera for the tracking, ala trackir or freetrack. |
What i mean is it will all come as one unit with no need to run out and buy other peripherals.
I'm trying to find the bright points here and be optimistic.
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Jan 2014 01:45 Post subject: |
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im a little bummed that they went for a non integrated tracking, im sure it performs better but as silent_lurker said it introduces enviroment problems wich weights more heavily atleast for me
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nerrd
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nerrd
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Jan 2014 02:45 Post subject: |
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And your point is? Are you saying I can turn around and still get positional tracking? No, you can't. Also, part of the appeal, at least for me, was the fact that this was somewhat portable. Now it isn't. Stuck back in front of the desk.
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Jan 2014 03:14 Post subject: |
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| nerrd wrote: | | And your point is? |
You can turn 180, 360, 720, whatever.
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nerrd
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Jan 2014 03:17 Post subject: |
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I really hope they get rid of the camera.
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Jan 2014 03:25 Post subject: |
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| nerrd wrote: | | I really hope they get rid of the camera. |
It'd be nice. They did it 20 years ago with just internal gyros/accelerometers in the VFX1. You occasionally had issues with drift but it wasn't bad.
But the rift was never designed to be a system that moves around too much. Cables get in the way and can be a hazard unless you have some sort of rig that routes them from up top (yes, I busted my ass at least once tripping over cables with the VFX1). And untethered you are going to need battery power and more hardware to make everything wireless. Unless you're walking around with a backpack with a laptop and extra batteries (yes, this has been done, I know). It's just not practical yet.
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Jan 2014 04:23 Post subject: |
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I am ok with axis as those are is current dk. Dont feel like need much of positional tracking. Surely not for the price of fudging with camera.
Just give me fantastic screen and fov.
Of all the positional axis only forward movemwnt is useful to look at Guages and so on
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Werelds
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Jan 2014 10:47 Post subject: |
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| nerrd wrote: | So what happens when you want to turn your head around 180 degrees. Oh wait, you can't. Fucking weak.
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Uh, what? Have you even seen a single video of this thing? |
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Jan 2014 10:50 Post subject: |
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| nerrd wrote: | | I really hope they get rid of the camera. |
why?
think of the possibilities, gloves with dots. use your hands as a controller and so on
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Jan 2014 13:19 Post subject: |
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Keit
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Jan 2014 13:31 Post subject: |
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From what I've heard the 1080p prototype that was shown at PAX was still very low res to look at.
I wonder how demanding it'll be if the final release is like 1440p or higher. It needs to render two images right? And if you want it at 120hz with some AA... ugh.
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garus
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Jan 2014 13:56 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Jan 2014 14:12 Post subject: |
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nerrd
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Jan 2014 20:19 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Jan 2014 20:43 Post subject: |
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Instead of having a camera, they could use a small IR tracker that tracks the positions dots, kinda like we do with our 3d scanners
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Werelds
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Jan 2014 21:07 Post subject: |
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| nerrd wrote: | | Werelds wrote: | | nerrd wrote: | So what happens when you want to turn your head around 180 degrees. Oh wait, you can't. Fucking weak.
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Uh, what? Have you even seen a single video of this thing? |
Yes I have.
Here is something else for you to ignore and respond to with a duchy smily. |
I see you've formulated your point better in later posts, but the way you posted that question, I could give two serious answers:
- You can turn 180 degrees (although if you can just turn your head 180 degrees, I want to see that, involves some torso twisting as well for me  ) with the Rift, that's always been possible.
- If your question was specifically about the positional tracking: yes, you still can. Because there's LED's on the back too.
Clearly you've figured that out by now, so:
| Quote: | | Doing a quick google search shows I'm not the only questioning this positional tracking "solution". I don't think it's a proper one, only the one they found most cost effective. |
They already said this was a temporary solution just for demo purposes. |
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Jan 2014 00:19 Post subject: |
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