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Badrien
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lol got another key, beta gods must be listening. anywhere aside from ebay where could I offload this for some cash?, Dont have an ebay account : /
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sausje
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| Posted: Tue, 17th Dec 2013 23:53 Post subject: |
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Same, got another key as well just now 
Probeer marktplaats eens 
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Badrien
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sausje
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Dec 2013 00:04 Post subject: |
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Sorry i'm sharing with my WoW guild friends 
@Badrien
http://www.epicnpc.com/forums/167-Beta-Keys-Codes
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no9999
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Badrien
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Dec 2013 00:11 Post subject: |
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Interesting thanks! As long as I get the payment sent on paypal as a gift im safe from recalls/chargebacks? etc right?
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sausje
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Dec 2013 00:15 Post subject: |
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I have honestly no idea about that. I was lucky with my D3 account that i got a trusted buyer from there.
Just make sure that they have good rep 
(btw, make sure they don't get banned. Because if a friendkey get's banned, you get banned as well  )
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no9999
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Dec 2013 00:22 Post subject: |
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paypal can always be revoked by the other guy.
Ask them to put in a message in the description stating that they wont demand a refund due to the fact its a virtual item.
Also only sell to verified paypal accounts.
Yeah and check the rep
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Badrien
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Dec 2013 00:39 Post subject: |
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| no9999 wrote: | paypal can always be revoked by the other guy.
Ask them to put in a message in the description stating that they wont demand a refund due to the fact its a virtual item.
Also only sell to verified paypal accounts.
Yeah and check the rep |
ty, will keep an eye out. the board moves fast and i only have 20 posts there so doubt itll move.
On a related note, can games gifted trough steam be chargebacked/removed too?
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Dec 2013 01:16 Post subject: |
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paypal gift payments are irreversible, if its done, nothing can be done to charge it back
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Dec 2013 01:57 Post subject: |
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Meh, still no key for me, have been registered since the very first hour they opened registrations... kinda sucks
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Badrien
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Dec 2013 02:42 Post subject: |
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| Smikis. wrote: | | paypal gift payments are irreversible, if its done, nothing can be done to charge it back |
Thanks mate.
Gonna get me a nice xmas present now ^^ Starting with DayZ me thinks
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sausje
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Dec 2013 03:18 Post subject: |
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Meh, i could really do with the money now, but friends come first.
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Badrien
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Dec 2013 03:40 Post subject: |
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Streamed my playing of the beta first few hours to my regular gamin mates, they were all like no thanks lol.
meanwhile, have you tried any pvp so far?
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Dec 2013 07:38 Post subject: |
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| Smikis. wrote: | | paypal gift payments are irreversible, if its done, nothing can be done to charge it back |
Charge backs from bank.
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Dec 2013 11:58 Post subject: |
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| frogster wrote: | | Smikis. wrote: | | paypal gift payments are irreversible, if its done, nothing can be done to charge it back |
Charge backs from bank. |
its a gift not a payment for service, what reason could you give to a bank to chargeback a gift
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Keit
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Dec 2013 12:16 Post subject: |
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| Smikis. wrote: | | frogster wrote: | | Smikis. wrote: | | paypal gift payments are irreversible, if its done, nothing can be done to charge it back |
Charge backs from bank. |
its a gift not a payment for service, what reason could you give to a bank to chargeback a gift |
you can just claim the payment on paypal was made without your consent i.e hacked account or someone you know used it without your knowledge, and the bank will make a chargeback.
if you want to be safe you can tell the seller to type in that they are paying for a virtual item (paypal doesnt offer disputes on virtual items) and that they will not dispute the payment.
it can be troublesome trying to sell virtual stuff though, since most people demand you have a high rep on the forum/site you are trying to sell it. and if you try to sell it to someone that already has high rep on the board they will normally try to undercut your offer a lot so they are then able to resell it for a big profit.
so yeah unless you already have an established reputation on one of these sites you'll have to be lucky or just be willing to sell cheap and without safety.
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sausje
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Dec 2013 12:17 Post subject: |
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If you used PP to gift BEFORE they withdraw it from your bank, if your bank doesn't have enough cash on it at that point, it causes a chargeback..
Tho this only happens if the seller accepts the payment before the withdraw has been made. (which many don't do anymore)
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Dec 2013 13:00 Post subject: |
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I really need to try this beta so if anyone got a friend key to throw away i'll give whatever you want of these: Hearthstone, AC 4 Digital Uplay Deluxe Edition, Cell Blacklist or Batman Arkham Origins
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Dec 2013 13:38 Post subject: |
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| Smikis. wrote: | | frogster wrote: | | Smikis. wrote: | | paypal gift payments are irreversible, if its done, nothing can be done to charge it back |
Charge backs from bank. |
its a gift not a payment for service, what reason could you give to a bank to chargeback a gift |
bank dont care about paypal and gift. those are not their policies. they will 99% of time side with the client anyway.
i "farmed" chinese for $ from both perspective (buyer seller) with wow/d2/eve, using 5 banks accounts, and 4 paypal ones for about 4 years.
believe when i say that if the buyer will want their $ back, they will get them.
they only somehow safe way to trade your virtual stuff is to trade them to immediately activation virtual stuff. like time codes for mmo's for example.
but again, is not 100% because there is chargeback. lets say you trade a beta key vs 360 days timecards for eve online, you activate them, he denies the payment few hours later, you get your account banned for fraudulent transactions. perma banned in the worst case.
i'm not saying that all people are like this, but dont be happy that you got 250$, spend them all, and be deep cover in shit when the bank demand them back 2 months later.
get your money, wait 2 months, and spend them after.
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Dec 2013 13:52 Post subject: |
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well paypal wont release money for 21 day anyway, so i cant spend them.
I sold through ebay and they left positive feedback, so that insures me a bit. As its basically "item was received and i am happy with what i received". Time will tell,but i see no reason to worry about it now, most people wont go through all the trouble of getting bank to chargeback, some banks do it easier some wont do it at all. Since paypal provides buyer address, i saw that my buyers live in fancy places, so i doubt they will bother over those200$~
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Fa4Ta4L
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Dec 2013 14:53 Post subject: |
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| Badrien wrote: | | Smikis. wrote: | | paypal gift payments are irreversible, if its done, nothing can be done to charge it back |
Thanks mate.
Gonna get me a nice xmas present now ^^ Starting with DayZ me thinks |
you sold it so quickly? hmm.. might try at epicnpc then..
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no9999
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Dec 2013 15:55 Post subject: |
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| frogster wrote: | | Smikis. wrote: | | frogster wrote: |
Charge backs from bank. |
its a gift not a payment for service, what reason could you give to a bank to chargeback a gift |
bank dont care about paypal and gift. those are not their policies. they will 99% of time side with the client anyway.
i "farmed" chinese for $ from both perspective (buyer seller) with wow/d2/eve, using 5 banks accounts, and 4 paypal ones for about 4 years.
believe when i say that if the buyer will want their $ back, they will get them.
they only somehow safe way to trade your virtual stuff is to trade them to immediately activation virtual stuff. like time codes for mmo's for example.
but again, is not 100% because there is chargeback. lets say you trade a beta key vs 360 days timecards for eve online, you activate them, he denies the payment few hours later, you get your account banned for fraudulent transactions. perma banned in the worst case.
i'm not saying that all people are like this, but dont be happy that you got 250$, spend them all, and be deep cover in shit when the bank demand them back 2 months later.
get your money, wait 2 months, and spend them after. |
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Dec 2013 17:53 Post subject: |
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If someone wants to gift me DayZ on steam they can have the new beta key I got, then you can turn around and sell it for $100 or do whatever you want, i don't care. I haven't touched WS beta since you had to log in to get a new invite
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| Posted: Wed, 18th Dec 2013 19:31 Post subject: |
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A few weeks ago if you logged in on a saturday you would get another CB invite. And if you logged into the next 2 saturdays a chance for more (which I didn't do)
So yeah I really just want to be rid of the key. I traded Skyrim for Dark Souls here last Christmas so I think it's proof I'm trustworthy and have no patience for getting max value
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, this one gets sold/traded for an xmas gift
