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Sin317
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2013 12:06    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
The new title is just perfect Laughing

It got RPS'd, and it hurt: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/11/21/wot-i-think-x-rebirth/

I still think there's some hidden potential here, it's simply..very well hidden xD. Only time and thousands of patches and mods will tell.



he described my vary experience i had with this game. And he ended at the very same point Smile

(and i'm one of those of the community who were posting savegames for all the missions up to that point on nexus hehe).
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2013 13:40    Post subject:


Guess I migrated in time, Belgians like the 'donewaytoomanytimes' hitler vid Sad

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Sin317
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2013 13:54    Post subject:
it's not so much about not liking them, but it's because we (those who speak german) understand the original dialog and have to mix it with subtitles that are different. It's quite annoying Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2013 13:59    Post subject:
yep totally sin and about belgians alot of us are either pricks or idiots or plain annoying

what we do got is great beer and fries ^^


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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2013 14:03    Post subject:
Cyb3r wrote:
what we do got is great beer and fries ^^


so much win So Much Win
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Morphineus
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2013 14:11    Post subject:
Cyb3r wrote:
yep totally sin and about belgians alot of us are either pricks or idiots or plain annoying

what we do got is great beer and fries ^^



Haha spoken like a true Belgian En FFS ik mis een Belgische frituur xD

But yeh on a more serious note, like sin said it is mostly just annoying.


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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2013 15:42    Post subject:
• Fixed video stutter/crackle at start.
• Fixed several more crashes during start-up and in-game.
• Fixed specific crash when using Alt-Tab or changing shaders.
• Fixed specific crash when leaving a highway.
• Fixed several problems with trade ships being blocked from operating (more fixes to come).
• Fixed problem with not being able to see dock icons for certain ships.
• Fixed problem with certain missions potentially not working after saving and reloading.

http://steamcommunity.com/games/2870/announcements/detail/1496614934864630496

(Update 1.16)
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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 18:42    Post subject:
Quote:
X Rebirth Update 1.17 Released
23 NOVEMBRE - EGOSOFT

Added autosave facility.
Added button to clear trade queue.
Fixed crash after displaying fatal error dialog.
Fixed stall loading certain savegames.
Fixed target point list growing uncontrollably in certain situations.
Fixed problem with ships not joining formations.
Fixed ships getting stuck during mass traffic trades.
Fixed several problems with ship scripts.
Fixed lipsync on Split characters.
Fixed dialog choices shown in wrong language when loading savegame from another language.
Fixed the primary cause of highway exit crashes. Fix for a less common crash involving highways will follow as soon as possible.


Quote:
Fixed crash after displaying fatal error dialog.

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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 19:59    Post subject:
Silent_Lurker wrote:


Quote:
Fixed crash after displaying fatal error dialog.

Confused


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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Nov 2013 02:42    Post subject:
Silent_Lurker wrote:
Fixed crash after displaying fatal error dialog
Confused


Yes, the one that throws up 'your a silly bastard for installing this shit' has now been fixed, and not labeled 'fatal'.
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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Nov 2013 05:33    Post subject:
should come over for fries and beer then morphiniuus Razz (have ya tried kwak yet? (awesome beer ^^ brewn close to me Very Happy))

clearly they didn't fix enough crashes grinhurt


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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Nov 2013 05:35    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Nov 2013 05:52    Post subject:
roflmao inter


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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Nov 2013 10:19    Post subject:
i only crashed like 2 times in total. Imho, it's a very minor issue (especially compared to all the other crap that keeps going wrong lol).
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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Nov 2013 10:38    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
You can't blame the game for crashing, it's because Chrome's open \o/


Hey.
I heard many times that Chrome can mess with sounds or with games while running in background.
Is this shit for real ? Neutral


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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Nov 2013 10:52    Post subject:
Sad

Thanks for the info, will keep an eye on this.


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Nov 2013 16:38    Post subject:
So for other people dissatisfied with this pile of shit, I actually got a refund from Steam, €49,99 in my steam wallet.
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Nov 2013 17:39    Post subject:
*Please don't be under the Christmas tree!*

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Sin317
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Nov 2013 17:52    Post subject:
MORPHINEUS wrote:
*Please don't be under the Christmas tree!*

Laughing


it will be, if you've been nasty ^^.

personally tho, i rather have coal Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Nov 2013 20:13    Post subject:
Ragedoctor wrote:
So for other people dissatisfied with this pile of shit, I actually got a refund from Steam, €49,99 in my steam wallet.


I tried to get a refund (steam) but didn't get it.
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Nov 2013 21:08    Post subject:
http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=352790

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It turned out that the issues many of you are seeing with trade ships not working correctly is not one bug but a whole series of connected problems. After resolving the first issue with 1.17, more problems became apparent. This is the reason we are now testing the next patch 1.18 a lot longer than the other patches. We can not afford a very indepth test at this time, because too many of you are waiting for this fix, but things are looking good and chances are that this update will be available before the weekend.

I do not want to give silly excuses here. Of course you deserve a bug free game, but you may ask why these trade problems were not uncovered during testing: We had a group of testers dedicated to testing our economy over a long period of time. These guys used a special version of the game which allowed them to run the entire economy at a higher speed. It seems that most of these problems we now see did not happen with this time acceleration. Meanwhile these problems also do not happen early on in the game or if you (like most testers do) have to restart the game frequently.
This is so stupid on so many levels, that I'm surprised they even had the brains to have anyone testing at all.
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Nov 2013 21:43    Post subject:
zmed wrote:
This is so stupid on so many levels, that I'm surprised they even had the brains to have anyone testing at all.


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Nov 2013 21:47    Post subject:
Ghworg wrote:
Ragedoctor wrote:
So for other people dissatisfied with this pile of shit, I actually got a refund from Steam, €49,99 in my steam wallet.


I tried to get a refund (steam) but didn't get it.


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1 Message by you on Sat, 16th Nov 2013 7:46 am
Dear sir/madam,

I have pre-ordered X:Rebirth, the next installment of the X-series planning to enjoy a fully working game in my free time. The game is a full €49,99 and refuses to function satisfactorily on my machine. I have a EVGA 780 GTX and an i7 processor with sufficient RAM (and fast enough RAM). The game registers a wimpy 10 fps most of the time on the most recent drivers from nvidia, older drivers have also not helped. The game also crashes to desktop constantly and there amount of bugs is staggering. The game is completely unplayable in my opinion so I would like to request a refund, which I am entitled to under Dutch law. This product is in my opinion non-conform the values and attributes which were marketed to me when I bought this product, under article 7:5 jo 7:17 jo 7:24 BW(Dutch Civil Law) I request a refund of my purchase.

I hope you will comply to my request.

Kinds regards,

My name huehue

(I am currently using windows 8.1 if you were wondering)
2 Message by Support Tech Robbie on Tue, 19th Nov 2013 2:49 pm
Hello,

Thank you for contacting Steam Support.

Unfortunately, we cannot offer a refund for this transaction.

As with most software products, we do not offer refunds or exchanges for purchases made on our website or through the Steam Client. This includes, but is not limited to, games, Early Access Games, software, gifted or traded purchases, downloadable content, subscriptions, and in-game items/currency.

Please review Section 3 of the Steam Subscriber Agreement for more information.
http://www.steampowered.com/index.php?area=subscriber_agreement

Please try the following to troubleshoot any issues.

If you are currently running Vista, Windows 7, or Windows 8, please complete the instructions in the following link:

Windows 7, Windows 8, and Vista Troubleshooting
http://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=5688-IFHZ-2170


The remaining steps apply to *all* versions of Windows.

Please also verify the GCF for this game as outlined here:

Verifying Game Cache Files (GCF)
http://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=2037-QEUH-3335

Note: Files may fail to verify. This is normal and can be ignored.

Then test the issue.

If you still have difficulty, you may also need to manually run secondary installers required by this game.

Exit Steam entirely.

Browse to your X-Rebirth installation folder (Usually C:\Program files\Steam\Steamapps\common\X Rebirth\)

Run the following installers:

...X Rebirth\\_CommonRedist\DirectX\Jun2010\DXSETUP.exe
...X Rebirth\\_CommonRedist\vcredist\2010\vcredist_x86.exe
...X Rebirth\\_CommonRedist\vcredist\2010\vcredist_x64.exe

Reboot your computer and test the issue again.

If the issues persist, please complete these guides:

This game is currently unavailable
http://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4595-WEXN-6831

Games do not run after 'Preparing to Launch'
http://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=6218-USFX-5568



**IMPORTANT**
Support for this title is handled by a third party support department - please follow the instructions below to contact the support provider to troubleshoot this issue:

Egosoft Support
http://www.egosoft.com/support/faq/index_en.php


As an alternate resource, please check Steam Discussions for other users that may have resolved this issue:

http://steamcommunity.com/app/2870/discussions
3 Message by you on Wed, 20th Nov 2013 1:55 am
Dear Robbie,

Sadly this is not conform to European law or Dutch law, to which steam is subject due to selling its product under a local license. Please refer to European Consumer Law, particularly about online purchases and the guideline of early refunds, to which I am entitled because I flagged my problems with the purchase early.

Secondary to that I would like to point to article 7:5 jo 7:17 jo 7:24 BW(Dutch Civil Law) as I said in my earlier post, you are obliged by law to refund me my product since it is not up to par.

I am sorry for causing you trouble, however this purchase simply is not acceptable, the product does not work as described and is simply unusable.

Kind regards,

My name again
4 Message by Support Tech Robbie on Tue, 26th Nov 2013 2:43 pm
Hello,

The regulations you are citing do not apply to digital distribution subscriptions, electronic games, or downloadable content.

System requirements are indicated at the bottom of the Steam Store page for all games, and on the package for retail copies.

Please ensure your computer meets the minimum system requirements prior to completing your purchase.

As with most software products, we do not offer refunds or exchanges on games, DLC or in-game items purchased on our website or through the Steam Client.

As a one-time customer service gesture we issued you store credit for the amount of your purchase into your Steam Wallet

The credit can be used for future Steam purchases.

To view your current available Steam Wallet balance:
- Log in to your Steam account.
- The current available balance will be listed in the upper right hand corner next to "[Your username]'s Account".
- In most cases, the new funds will automatically be displayed in your account.
- If this has not happened, please allow two hours for the transaction to fully complete.

Please note in the future that Steam purchases, per the Steam Subscriber Agreement, are not refundable - this store credit was issued as a one-time customer service gesture.

If you have any further questions, please let us know - we will be happy to assist you.


Besides the fact that what he said about digital purchases not applying to these laws (debatable at best), I got a full refund. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Nov 2013 21:57    Post subject:
Thanks, i'll try again Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Nov 2013 21:59    Post subject:
Steam falls under the Luxembourg law unless the laws of the country you reside in give you better protection. But of course they will twist it around because they know most people won't push further after an initial no.

That being said... it should always be within a reasonable time after purchase


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Nov 2013 22:07    Post subject:
MORPHINEUS wrote:


That being said... it should always be within a reasonable time after purchase


I played it at launch for less than 45 minutes and never touched the game again.
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Nov 2013 22:15    Post subject:
Well in most countries a reasonable time is within 3 weeks after purchase. Smile


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Nov 2013 22:16    Post subject:
MORPHINEUS wrote:
Steam falls under the Luxembourg law unless the laws of the country you reside in give you better protection. But of course they will twist it around because they know most people won't push further after an initial no.

That being said... it should always be within a reasonable time after purchase


Are you sure, I thought Dutch law applied because they provided my product through a server located in the Netherlands. I study tax law, where I also receive education in civil law among other things. Doesn't Dutch law take hegemony the moment they provide my product through a locally offered service?
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