ATI Radeon X1800 XT 512MB - REVIEWS
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trollkopf




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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Oct 2005 15:02    Post subject: ATI Radeon X1800 XT 512MB - REVIEWS
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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Oct 2005 16:00    Post subject:
Nice Very Happy


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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Oct 2005 17:28    Post subject:
Nice indeed! I want one, but my economy will never allow it :/ Well i could afford it, but after rent and shit, i wouldn´t have much left for food Razz


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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Oct 2005 17:37    Post subject:
Starve, a true gamer would. Very Happy


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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Oct 2005 17:39    Post subject:
True Very Happy OR i could start saving, it isn´t out yet anways Very Happy


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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Thu, 6th Oct 2005 00:07    Post subject:
or u could wait for a couple of years till it drops in price like for 150$ & buy the sucker but i'm afraid in couple of years X3800 will be out or whatever with like
60 Pipelines then u back to square 1 Crying or Very sad Razz
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LOGiX




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PostPosted: Thu, 6th Oct 2005 00:43    Post subject:
not so nice, 1) too late 2) pricey and 3) no big improvements, 7800GTX wins.
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Thu, 6th Oct 2005 03:18    Post subject:
agree;they simpley didn't knew how to implement ps3.0 when nvidia did,now they finaly got it but it's like u said 2 little 2 late,anyways ati fans will be happy with new toys even if they loose couple of points in 3dmark to nvidia
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trollkopf




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PostPosted: Thu, 6th Oct 2005 10:45    Post subject:
good: improved AF quality

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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Thu, 6th Oct 2005 13:35    Post subject:
well u really have to use microscop to see any diffrence not to mension hl2 optimized for ati,who needs that outblowing hightech quality when game "loading" appears every 2 minutues
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trollkopf




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PostPosted: Thu, 6th Oct 2005 16:15    Post subject:
ELIZ wrote:
well u really have to use microscop to see any diffrence


look at the lower wall far in the back
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Panoramix




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PostPosted: Thu, 6th Oct 2005 19:43    Post subject:
@trollkopf:
the mentioned screenshot was proven to be a big fake. The image quality difference is nearly neglible. If i'm right you took the picture from 3dcenter.org, right? browse the forum and do some further investigation if you were interested in clearing up this matter correctly. Some people there have posted screenshots themselfes on newest nvidia hardware and compared them to the image in question. I think noone here needs to be brainwashed by propaganda wheter from nvidia friendly nor from ati biased sources Wink


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PostPosted: Thu, 6th Oct 2005 19:58    Post subject:
btw, i'm pretty confident that ati's new flagship is a well balanced card but to declare it a 7800 killer is far from true- Imho it comes far too late and is faaaaar from pricey atm. To be honest i expected a "bit" more. Maybe it would have been better for ati to skip the r520, wait 3 month and launch the shortly upcoming r580 instead. 3 month more waiting wouldn't be much considering the fact that the gaming community waited so long for the r520 to be released.
In fact it is frustrating to watch nvidia and ati release a new top notch $550 card twice a year...


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PostPosted: Thu, 6th Oct 2005 21:10    Post subject:
Panoramix wrote:
In fact it is frustrating to watch nvidia and ati release a new top notch $550 card twice a year...


Ain't that the fucking truth Sad


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PostPosted: Thu, 6th Oct 2005 22:08    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
Panoramix wrote:
In fact it is frustrating to watch nvidia and ati release a new top notch $550 card twice a year...


Ain't that the fucking truth Sad


Consoles anyone Smile
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trollkopf




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PostPosted: Thu, 6th Oct 2005 22:35    Post subject:
Panoramix wrote:
@trollkopf:
the mentioned screenshot was proven to be a big fake. The image quality difference is nearly neglible. If i'm right you took the picture from 3dcenter.org, right? browse the forum and do some further investigation if you were interested in clearing up this matter correctly. Some people there have posted screenshots themselfes on newest nvidia hardware and compared them to the image in question. I think noone here needs to be brainwashed by propaganda wheter from nvidia friendly nor from ati biased sources Wink


yes its from 3dcenter.org.
only one person there thinks its fake.
the image quality on nvidia cards might depend on, the perspektive you look ingame

anyway fact is ATI has the better AI quality just fro the tech specs (i use a NVIDIA card)
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PostPosted: Thu, 6th Oct 2005 23:36    Post subject:
have a look at the upper wall and the textures there- you will notice that something's really wrong about that screenshot- noone has to be an expert to see that, right? The screenshot was obviously manipulated. Turn off the texture optimizations in the driver settings and you will see that the image quality is the same compared to x850 with the new nvidia driver. In fact the AF of the new 7800 series was worse using earlier 7800 certified driver compared to e.g. the 6800 but the card has enough power to display every upcoming game using at least 4x TSAA without great performance losses and it looks just great Smile Right, the new graphics mode is no excuse for the relatively poor af quality but maybe a future driver comes with angle- independent AF who knows?!? I think there will be a surprise because it is proven that the g70 can do alot better. ( They used an old driver which doesn't support the card but it worked flawlessly).
It remains to be seen who will be on the top, let's wait for real frame-marks and ingame quality comparison when the x1800 is out. Btw, my 7800 gtx runs 510+40 = 550 mhz and i'm fairly convinced that regarding the PS fillrate it will be very difficult for ati to beat the pixel performance of the 7800 gtx with just 16 pipes. 1800XT is fairly at its max when it comes to core frequency of 625mhz (strong cooling solution will be advised when attempting any overclocking) and the power consumption seems to be insanely high. But let's just wait, sure there is much more we will know when the card comes out in november.


P.s.: the xbox does look great, but i never owned any console and i think i'll stay with pc's Smile


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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2005 01:40    Post subject:
Panoramix wrote:


P.s.: the xbox does look great, but i never owned any console and i think i'll stay with pc's Smile


You are missin out on some great games...like RE4...playing it on GC now and its a game you can't pass up...Have you seen the screen shots of RE5...I can't wait to get my hands on this one...The new consoles are going to be sick
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2005 03:06    Post subject:
PS3 from sony will own them all
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2005 03:25    Post subject:
ELIZ wrote:
PS3 from sony will own them all


Ps3... alot unknown...shitty controller

Xbox360...xbox live great, like controller...might or might not compare with Sony's power.

Nintendo Revoultions...Big ups on the controller, clear winner...total lack of power

Take your pick Very Happy
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Sat, 8th Oct 2005 03:30    Post subject:
everything is known about PS3 u just need to look for that presentation about it if u didn't already & whats so shity about it looks very ergonomic

http://i.afterdawn.com/news/playstation_3_controller_full.jpg

about xbox360 controller,well they just painted in white old one

http://www.gpstore.co.nz/images/xbox-360/xbox-360-controller.jpg
just admit it -

http://www.freevideogames.com/Content/Admin/Products/3/126322_Image.jpg


here is some spec
of ps 3 http://www.ps3land.com/ps3specs.php
& xbox 360 http://hardware.teamxbox.com/articles/xbox/1144/The-Xbox-360-System-Specifications/p1/

not to mension that ps3 WILL support ps1 & ps2 games in wich factor xbox 360 WILL NOT

case closed Very Happy

P.S. Personaly i don't give a crap about all this cause i won't be able to afford any of those,but best wins Wink


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PostPosted: Sat, 8th Oct 2005 15:16    Post subject:
The xbox controller is the best one i´ve ever used, so i have no problem with the 360 one being very similar.

And Xbox360 will support Xbox games, atleast o i´ve heard numerous times.


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PostPosted: Sat, 8th Oct 2005 15:47    Post subject:
the X-box s was nice but my fav. controller is the gamecube. Playing that for hours is perfect. with the PS2 I find my hands slippin all over.

The xbox 360 is new..... the black and white buttons are now triggers on the back ala dreamcast and the 'logo' in the middle is used for connectin to xbox live.

neway back to the games.... even if those screenshots are realy it's taken on a 7800GT. it's hardly a fair contest.


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PostPosted: Sat, 8th Oct 2005 23:21    Post subject:
The PS3 controller is just a concept controller for now. My fav controller would be the Xbox S controller with 4 triggers, which the Xbox 360 seems to be : ). I am for sure getting a PS3, and maybe Xbox 360. All depends on PES5, and if there is some fun multi player game for the xmas break to test.
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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Oct 2005 01:50    Post subject:
SAPPHIRE 100133 Radeon X1800 XL 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 VIVO PCI Express x16 Video Card - OEM for $389. Get it here
Good deal if you ask me. Anyone got this card? Any impressions? Any better deals?
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