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Posted: Wed, 20th Feb 2013 00:36 Post subject: We are all doomed... In a few dozens of billions of years... |
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WaldoJ
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Posted: Wed, 20th Feb 2013 00:44 Post subject: |
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lol we're all doomed from the day you're born
you're gonna die regardless. fuck it all. 
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Posted: Wed, 20th Feb 2013 01:30 Post subject: |
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The OP not only is a scientific analphabet, as is unaware of the meanings of the words theory and hypothesis.
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Posted: Wed, 20th Feb 2013 01:46 Post subject: |
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Not me. I shall ascend into the cosmos.
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Posted: Wed, 20th Feb 2013 01:49 Post subject: |
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Posted: Wed, 20th Feb 2013 02:07 Post subject: |
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pistolshrimp wrote: | Not me. I shall ascend into the cosmos. |
In that case I want to be your cherub companion 
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Posted: Wed, 20th Feb 2013 03:59 Post subject: |
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Frant
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Posted: Wed, 20th Feb 2013 08:23 Post subject: |
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Well, entropy will be the end of us all, that's just how the universe works (well at least what we understand so far ).
But human race will die even sooner (if not by our own hands, which is more likely), our Sun will go nova in about 5 billion years, so...
But 5 billion years is a looong loooooong time. By then, who knows what'll happen?! Interstellar travel, interdimensional travel?! The universe is our oyster!!! 
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
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Posted: Wed, 20th Feb 2013 08:50 Post subject: |
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Posted: Wed, 20th Feb 2013 15:19 Post subject: |
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zmed wrote: | Frant wrote: | zmed wrote: | I preferred the heat death where everything decays into photons, but I guess this is also a way to go out.  |
I prefer the black hole death of the universe. Every galaxy turns into a single giant black hole, floating alone in the cosmos until the Hawkins radiation have turned the universe into near total entropy death, still expanding while increasing entropy until either something totally unexpected happens (The Final Mind, ie. some other race's descendants in billions of years have ascended and become a final single mind that sacrifice all galaxies and matter/energy to end our universe in an orderly fashion to create a new one). | That's part of the heat death.
What you described was known as the "Black Hole era". And since black holes evaporate into radiation (photons) and protons are thought to be unstable, thus any remaining free floating matter would also decay, eventually the entire universe would be nothing more than low energy photons whizzing around. That was called the "Dark era", which would have come after the BHe. |
The thing is, energy is never destroyed, it just disperses (well, entropy). Who knows, perhaps dark matter/energy someone nullifies the heat death, or the increasing lack of energy creates a negative charge in certain zones in the universe where tied-up wormholes are created, slowly sucking up all the low energy potential until it reaches a certain limit and the energy breaks through the knot and a new area (on the other side of the wormhole) starts a new part of the universe.. And this is a constant cycle? Which would/could explain a lot of things as well a be shot-down idea.
I've always viewed vacuum force as an inflating force, ie. inverted exhaling in a cosmic sense and perhaps even part of the reason why the universe keeps expanding, there's still a lot of negative vacuum (actually, vacuum isn't the right word, but never mind) that is actually PULLING the universe outwards and apart as opposed to some dark matter/energy force theory being behind the expansion of the room and the mega-verse.
Imagine a membrane. On one side is infinite energy.. On the other side is infinite lack of energy. The pressure potential on this membrane (dimensional membrane?) may for some reason break and the side with the infinite energy suddenly burst through the break in the membrane and voila, our universe. Equilibrium will never take place since it's infinity. On the other hand, if it's finite, then there will finally be two universes that will at one point reach equilibrium on both points and there is no more expansion on either side and cosmic radiation will bounce around while the room itself is expanding, slowing everything down and we still end up with heat death.
Oh how I love what if's, even if some of them are ludicrous.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
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